burgerman 0 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Okay, two weeks until the Ryder Cup. Who wins? Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 US for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
AceJackOffS 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 US AINEC Link to post Share on other sites
burgerman 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Only 13 votes out of 73 views is pathetic Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 The USA will retain the Cup by a 1 1/2 point margin. Link to post Share on other sites
JMill420 0 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 The USA will retain the Cup by a 1 1/2 point margin.Retain? They dont have it now.... Europe will win again, their team is domination. Link to post Share on other sites
LITTLEPOPPA 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Okay, two weeks until the Ryder Cup. Who wins?I will be rooting for the US..but I think europe will win the cup for a few reasons-More than a few "Rookies" on the USA squad -2 Words- HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE...I think it plays a huge part and especially with #1 above will be tough Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I will be rooting for the US..but I think europe will win the cup for a few reasons-More than a few "Rookies" on the USA squad -2 Words- HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE...I think it plays a huge part and especially with #1 above will be tough Who does that Tiger guy play for? I like that team. Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerlite 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Who does that Tiger guy play for? I like that team.DN: Tiger plays poorly in the first two day team events. He actually has a losing record, so if you're banking on Tiger, you should really try another cat. I really want to beat the Euros this year, but their team is clearly the favorite. Having said that, favorites have not been doing too well lately in the Ryder Cup, but still the Euros have the best players and this format suits them better, so the Euros win 16-12. Link to post Share on other sites
burgerman 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Tigerlite your analysis is quite correct for the Ryder Cup, however, there was quite a relevation in the The Presidents Cup 2005. Tiger found a partner in Furyk and Mickelson found a partner in DiMarco. I now strongly favor the US because I believe these two teams will be dominant in their matches. We have always done well in singles and haven't won this competition because we get so far behind the first two days in team play. Captain Nicklaus found partners for the US big guns and Captain Lehman is likely to go with those combinations. Lookout Europe!Best --Burgerman Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 DN: Tiger plays poorly in the first two day team events. He actually has a losing record, so if you're banking on Tiger, you should really try another cat. I really want to beat the Euros this year, but their team is clearly the favorite. Having said that, favorites have not been doing too well lately in the Ryder Cup, but still the Euros have the best players and this format suits them better, so the Euros win 16-12. This is new Tiger. New Tiger doesn't lose, like ever, lol! Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 ^^^^^what he said..... Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerlite 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Tigerlite your analysis is quite correct for the Ryder Cup, however, there was quite a relevation in the The Presidents Cup 2005. Tiger found a partner in Furyk and Mickelson found a partner in DiMarco. I now strongly favor the US because I believe these two teams will be dominant in their matches. We have always done well in singles and haven't won this competition because we get so far behind the first two days in team play. Captain Nicklaus found partners for the US big guns and Captain Lehman is likely to go with those combinations. Lookout Europe!Best --BurgermanBurger: I really hope that you're right and those players (matchups) do as well as they are obviously capable of doing. I know that Mickelson and DiMarco make a good pairing because they really are good friends, and Furyk and Tiger have a great deal of mutual respect and they compliment each other's game very, very well.Let's assume that these two U.S. pairings dominate. I'm pretty sure that the best score that two players playing together for one side on the first two days have had in Ryder Cup history is 3 points. So give the U.S. six points from these two groups out of a possible 16, a dubious assumption given that both teams would have to perform in historical fashion. That leaves 10 points in play on the first two days. In the last three Ryder Cups combined, Europe has won about 60.4 percent of the first two day matches. If you don't include the matches two years ago that were tied after the first two days, Europe's winning percentage goes to about 70 percent. Using this last figure, given that I'm giving the U.S. the benefit of the doubt on the Woods/Furyk and Mickelson/DiMarco pairings, Europe would go into the singles trailing the U.S., 9 to 7, an outstanding result for us.Now lets look at the singles: assume that the pairings come off with each team's highest ranked player playing against each other from number 1 to number 12, then the matchups would be as follows:12. Darren Clarke Scott Verplank 6. Paul Casey Chris DiMarco 2. Luke Donald Phil Mickelson 3. Sergio Garcia Jim Furyk 8. Padraig Harrington J.J. Henry 4. David Howell Chad Campbell 7. Robert Karlsson Vaughn Taylor 9. Paul McGinley Zach Johnson 5. Colin Montgomerie David Toms10. José Maria Olazábal Brett Wetterich 1. Henrik Stenson Tiger Woods11. Lee Westwood Stewart CinkOkay. Lets give the Woods match to the grand ole USA (USA 10, Europe 7). I think that the Donald/Mickelson and Garcia/Furyk matches are toss-ups, but lets give one to each side (USA 11, Europe 8). In the fourth match, I give the edge to Howell, ranked 12th in the World, over Campbell, ranked 20th in the World (USA 11, Europe 9). Match 5, I give the edge to Monty because of his Ryder Cup record, one of the best, and his Cup experience (USA 11, Europe 10). Match 6, I love DiMarco's fire, desire and his game, so I like him over that American hater Casey (USA 12, Europe 10). Matches 7 and 8 are, IMHO, should be European wins over two outmatched rookies (USA 12, Europe 12). Match nine is a toss-up between Johnson and McGinley. Match 10 is Europes with Olazabal's experience, and I also like both Euros in the last two matches against, what I think, were two weak choices by Captain Lehman. If we halve Match 9, then the final tally is 15 1/2 for Eurpoe and 12 1/2 for the USA.This is the way I see it. I can't wait for the actual event to occur. GO USA!! Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerlite 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 This is new Tiger. New Tiger doesn't lose, like ever, lol!Yeah, just like Phil Ivey never loses according to Norman Chad. Daniel, Tiger's best year ever was 2000 when he won 9 tournaments including three majors. In that year, the President's Cup was held, and in the first two days' of competition, Woods went 2 wins and two losses. He did win his singles match, so he ended up winning three points and losing two points in the Presidents Cup. The Ryder Cup is a lot more difficult, so again, don't look for Tiger to win all five points in the matches he'll be competing in. Three out of five is more likely. More importantly, Tiger has never, ever shown himself to be a leader at the Ryder Cup so don't look for him to rally the team either. He's an individual competitor and that's his mentality. Link to post Share on other sites
burgerman 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 If Europe trails after the fourball and foursomes, they are toast. I think your analysis of the singles doesn't recognize that we are much stronger among the best ranked players, Europe is stronger among the lower ranked players BUT the US is solid in the middle. I really like Cink, Verplank, DiMarco and Campbell against the experience of Europe. I'm looking for Stewart Cink to be the unsung hero of the matches. Tiger will have a minimum of four wins and I'd surprised if Mickelson didn't have the same.As always, DN is keyed what's important. Tiger is this team's leader and world #1. This may be the time when we beat'em bad.Go low,Burgerman Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralGeeWhiz 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 This is new Tiger. New Tiger doesn't lose, like ever, lol!Tiger does lose, but not that often. I'm not sure about his record in the Ryder cup, but he wont win it for America on his own. Phil, Jim (Fyrick-sp) will also have to step up. I think that they should also pair Dimarco and Mickelson together again. That worked in the Presidents cup very well, and Dimarco won it for us. Link to post Share on other sites
Player1 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Last 4 ryder cups: Europe 3, USA 1Reigning champion : EuropeHomefield : EuropeTeam spirit : EuropeSomething to fight for : Europe (want to prove the European tour is as strong as the PGA)Best ranked players : USAConclusion: Will be EUROPE who winsBUT BUTGolf is poker with only one suite (clubs)So anything can happen.Each and every player that plays has played monster golf once in a while. Link to post Share on other sites
leftygolfer 7 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 The USA will win by a 2 point margin.FYPHOMEFIELD ADVANTAGEI think this "homefied" advantage is a little off. This is golf, not football or basketball. The US team will have plenty of time to get acclimated to the time change and have played the course ( the K Club) already. Additionally, the course is not a links course, but rather a parkland course. It is like playing at many of the PGA courses that the US players see each week.It is always a highlight of my golf watching season. Thank God for TIVO.Go USA! Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Tiger says USA is an underdog....http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug...p&type=lgns Link to post Share on other sites
burgerman 0 Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Tiger is the greatest player ever. He knows how to play the motivation game. But he's not much of a handicapper. I'll cover all bets on Europe straight up for whatever anyone wants to wager. A tied match pushes.Burgerman Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerlite 0 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Tiger is the greatest player ever. He knows how to play the motivation game. But he's not much of a handicapper. I'll cover all bets on Europe straight up for whatever anyone wants to wager. A tied match pushes.BurgermanTiger is most probably the greatest player ever, and he did a good job of handicapping the Ryder Cup. Europe is favored by all sportsbooks taking action on the event, so Tiger did get it right. Link to post Share on other sites
burgerman 0 Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 If you would like to bet on Europe I will be glad to cover it. Please let me know the amount.BurgermanP.S. I'm not looking for odds or points. This is straight up. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 anti Erik bump Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerlite 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 If you would like to bet on Europe I will be glad to cover it. Please let me know the amount.BurgermanP.S. I'm not looking for odds or points. This is straight up.Bad news for the U.S. side of the Ryder Cup equation. Both Woods and Furyk lost at the World Match play and Furyk lost to one of the Euro Ryder Cup member. Link to post Share on other sites
burgerman 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 I saw the results for today as well. My offer still stands. I will cover any bet on Europe straight up.Burgerman Link to post Share on other sites
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