Andynice20 0 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Live 1-2 game @ Foxwoods last night. Usual donk fest, but this hand definitely stood out...I'm BB. Get dealt K-2 offsuit. Button and SB limp, I check.Flop is Ac Kd Jh.SB bets $6. I call, button calls.Turn card is Kc.SB bets $6, I raise to $15, button and SB call.River is 4c.SB checks, I bet $30, button shoves all in for $60, SB folds. I really consider everything, maybe he backed into a flush, has a boat, or set with a bigger kicker (KQ only basically). So many hands beat me. I fold.Comments? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Raise bigger on the turn.If my calcs are correct, there's $30 in the pot when it comes to us, so $45 after the raise... so that gives button 3-1 odds, and if he calls, sb only has to call $9 to win $60!!! This is superbad like McLovin.So yeah, raise like a man! Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Although the flop is probably a fold, btw. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Live 1-2 game @ Foxwoods last night. Usual donk fest, but this hand definitely stood out...I'm BB. Get dealt K-2 offsuit. Button and SB limp, I check.Flop is Ac Kd Jh.SB bets $6. I call, button calls.Turn card is Kc.SB bets $6, I raise to $15, button and SB call.River is 4c.SB checks, I bet $30, button shoves all in for $60, SB folds. I really consider everything, maybe he backed into a flush, has a boat, or set with a bigger kicker (KQ only basically). So many hands beat me. I fold.Comments?Over/Under of fold preflops is 4. Anyway, don't call the flop bet like ever. Link to post Share on other sites
Andynice20 0 Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 I know I probably should have folded the flop, but the feeling I got from both of these players is that if either of them had an Ace they would have raised preflop (the usual over-valuing of an A with any rag from donks). I know I probably should have bumped it more on the turn, but I really wanted some action, this was the first hand I actually got to the turn on in a couple orbits. BTW, I meant the button shoved for $60 more, not $60 total. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I know I probably should have folded the flop, but the feeling I got from both of these players is that if either of them had an Ace they would have raised preflop (the usual over-valuing of an A with any rag from donks). I know I probably should have bumped it more on the turn, but I really wanted some action, this was the first hand I actually got to the turn on in a couple orbits. BTW, I meant the button shoved for $60 more, not $60 total. With the A and Q (J ...whatever) on the board, I think we're reasonably safe with our lame kicker. So are we looking at about 3:1 / 4:1 ... something in that neighborhood ???? we're getting a good price to look him up. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 we're getting a good price to look him up.that is what I thought, but I am a station Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 that is what I thought, but I am a station Right ... it could be an A thinking he's got his kicker covered by the KKJ Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I know I probably should have folded the flop, but the feeling I got from both of these players is that if either of them had an Ace they would have raised preflop (the usual over-valuing of an A with any rag from donks).You can't beat a K either, so you'd have to put them on a J, a gutshot or air. I wouldn't really want to put money into the pot with middle pair bottom kicker. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 You can't beat a K either, so you'd have to put them on a J, a gutshot or air. I wouldn't really want to put money into the pot with middle pair bottom kicker.Sometimes you can call and try and catch up, like he did here. Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Sometimes you can call and try and catch up, like he did here.True but then you have to put villain on a hand that is strong enough to pay you off, like an ace. Link to post Share on other sites
Andynice20 0 Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 Well I folded, so I def put him on a flush or slowplaying a boat.Lets say you guys took the same line I did (as donk as it might have sounded). Do you call or fold the river? Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Well I folded, so I def put him on a flush or slowplaying a boat.Lets say you guys took the same line I did (as donk as it might have sounded). Do you call or fold the river?if i'm not thinking i call pretty quicklyif i'm thinking, i fold cause we are good or chop here probably < 8% of the time Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Fold flop.Raise turn harder.Call river. Link to post Share on other sites
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