Swift_Psycho 1 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Nothing special, just looking for this hand to be critiqued. Is dropping this hand at the river a really dumb idea even though it got capped on the turn with two other players doing the raising? Any and all advice is appreciated, as always.PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with [Kd], [Ad]. CO posts a blind of $0.25. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.Flop: (13 SB) [4h], [Td], [Ah] (6 players)SB bets, MP2 calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.Turn: (10.50 BB) [Qd] (4 players)SB bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.River: (26.50 BB) [3c] (4 players)SB bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds, MP2 calls.Final Pot: 28.50 BB Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Is folding the river bad?Not if you think you're beat 26 out of 26 times this hand is played. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 it is hard to count our outs here. we need to assume we are behind on the turn. agreed?we have to fold.a heart jack or heart king could be killer.we dont have enough outs to call two cold back to us. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 it is hard to count our outs here. we need to assume we are behind on the turn. agreed?we have to fold.a heart jack or heart king could be killer.we dont have enough outs to call two cold back to us.I'd have folded for 2 cold on the turn if I didn't pick up a flush draw when that queen hit. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 it is hard to count our outs here. we need to assume we are behind on the turn. agreed?we have to fold.a heart jack or heart king could be killer.we dont have enough outs to call two cold back to us.Getting 16.5:2 or 8.25:1. We have enough outs even if only the 9 diamonds are clean. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Anyone for raising the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 it is hard to count our outs here. we need to assume we are behind on the turn. agreed?we have to fold.a heart jack or heart king could be killer.we dont have enough outs to call two cold back to us.Getting 16.5:2 or 8.25:1. We have enough outs even if only the 9 diamonds are clean.oh wowi totally missed the flush draw.retract everything i have said. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 man now i KNOW ive been away a while.i totally missed the flush draw.use 2+2 format you donkey.anyway, raise the turn! Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 man now i KNOW ive been away a while.i totally missed the flush draw.use 2+2 format you donkey.anyway, raise the turn!I can't see your avatar, but maybe there's something wrong on my end.Anyway, now that you're staked for 5/10, start posting 10 hands a day again. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I raise the turn and fold if it's 2 back to me. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I raise the turn and fold if it's 2 back to me.Why do you fold if it's 2 back to you? You have 11 uncounterfeitable outs to the stone nizzles (9 diamonds, Jc, Js) Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 for what it is worth i agree with TJ. depending on reads of course. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 for what it is worth i agree with TJ. depending on reads of course.But why why why why why why why why why why why??If your kings are dirty and you're behind and the heart flush is alive, you've got 11 outs to the nuts... Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Folding the turn make the Buddha cry. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Oh wow. Didn't see the flush draw.I'm raising the turn, and not folding for any action that happens afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Yeah, I'm raising the turn here. You still have TPTK, and the Q isn't a huge scarecard. I call whatever raises I have to face from there on out. On the river, I don't know. I probably would call the one extra bet, just because I probably will have the best hand 1/25 times. Link to post Share on other sites
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