Call Here?

[Webslayer 0]

Poker StarsNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t100/t2003 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: t4025SB: t6188BB: t3287Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is Button with Q A Hero raises to t600, SB folds, BB calls t400 (pot was t900).Flop: 9 4 9 (t1300, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t700, BB calls t700 (pot was t2000).Turn: 2 (t2700, 2 players)BB checks, Hero checks.River: 8 (t2700, 2 players)BB is all-in t1987.BB Instashoves river. Call?ETA: Here was my thoughts on the hand.I just don't really see how he has me beat. Any pocket pair or strong ace he pops me back pre-flop. My bet on the flop was kinda weak. If he had caught any of it, I'd expect a re raise there. Check-check on the turn pretty standard. He may have been thinking of a check raise bluff here and was the cause for the call on the flop but I didn't allow that. My turn check screams I missed with overs. On the river, he instapushes. If he had anything I figure he would at least think about it for a second or value bet. He has to have weaker overs here or possible he could of played a flush draw that weak. The only thing I can think I would be worried about here would be if he somehow caught a two on the turn. But unless it was A-2 spade he can't call preflop and flop with a deuce. Does that read sound about right to everyone else?

[ChrisRichey 1]

I don't see how you can call on the river, but you played it fine up till then.

[mjd 0]

Without any more information, I fold this. If you want to get all your chips in with AQs, do so when you have some fold equity or have made a hand. You still have 2700 chips if you fold. And, enough chips that your first-in vig is worth something.What are the payouts and what have you seen from the villain so far?

[Webslayer 0]

Without any more information, I fold this. If you want to get all your chips in with AQs, do so when you have some fold equity or have made a hand. You still have 2700 chips if you fold. And, enough chips that your first-in vig is worth something.What are the payouts and what have you seen from the villain so far?

Not a whole lot. He's been pretty loose and everyones been basically passing the blinds around. There hasn't been much confrontation with him yet.I just don't really see how he has me beat. Any pocket pair or strong ace he pops me back pre-flop. My bet on the flop was kinda weak. If he had caught any of it, I'd expect a re raise there. Check-check on the turn pretty standard. He may have been thinking of a check raise bluff here and was the cause for the call on the flop but I didn't allow that. My turn check screams I missed with overs. On the river, he instapushes. If he had anything I figure he would at least think about it for a second or value bet. He has to have weaker overs here or possible he could of played a flush draw that weak. The only thing I can think I would be worried about here would be if he somehow caught a two on the turn. But unless it was A-2 spade he can't call preflop and flop with a deuce. Does that read sound about right to everyone else?

[Zach6668 513]

He's not planning to c/r BLUFF the turn. He doesn't have even close to the enough chips for that.

[Yahkin 0]

This looks like a slowplayed A9 to me. He smooth calls your flop bet after checking it to you. Checks the river to see if you'll take another shot. Overbets the river hoping it looks like a steal.It's about the only thing that seems to make sense here...(Or he's just an idiot...lol)

[timwakefield 68]

I would fold the river, but I think you can shove the turn here. He could be floating you with a flush draw, ace-high, or just 2 overs. I would expect him to reraise pf with a pair higher than 9s, and would expect him to shove the flop if he had 8s or lower. If he has A9, so be it.

[copernicus 0]

why are you so sure he doesnt have a 9 here? Hes getting better than 2:1 preflop and could have A9, K9, T9, 98 among other hands, and when he shoves I would put him on the trips and fold.

[timwakefield 68]

why are you so sure he doesnt have a 9 here? Hes getting better than 2:1 preflop and could have A9, K9, T9, 98 among other hands, and when he shoves I would put him on the trips and fold.

What do you think of shoving the turn?

[Webslayer 0]

why are you so sure he doesnt have a 9 here?

The instashove. Who would do that with a 9 here when I showed weakness on the turn? He have to think about it a moment and more than likely bet a bit less for value.

[copernicus 0]

The instashove. Who would do that with a 9 here when I showed weakness on the turn? He have to think about it a moment and more than likely bet a bit less for value.

I dont put much stock in timing of online plays. I certainly wouldnt think long before shoving with a 9 here, because an overpair is almost always going to call, and nothing else even calls a value bet.

[TwoFourOffsuit 0]

Piling on: checking the turn told him that you had nothing, thus he had you with the river shove.Can't put a finger on what he could have, other than his flop call reeks of chasing a flush draw. The river shove just tells me he's seizing control of the hand given you gave up the ghost on the turn, and trying to steal the pot.I'm no fan of shoving with air, but I'd have considered shoving the turn. As played, with no less than 3rd place locked up, I'd actually call what looks to me like a total bluff, despite the risk that he possibly was just scared to play two pair or a set.

[copernicus 0]

Piling on: checking the turn told him that you had nothing, thus he had you with the river shove.Can't put a finger on what he could have, other than his flop call reeks of chasing a flush draw. The river shove just tells me he's seizing control of the hand given you gave up the ghost on the turn, and trying to steal the pot.I'm no fan of shoving with air, but I'd have considered shoving the turn. As played, with no less than 3rd place locked up, I'd actually call what looks to me like a total bluff, despite the risk that he possibly was just scared to play two pair or a set.

A 9 out draw cant call the flop bet, so if hes drawing its probably a 12 out draw with the As. Does Ax s push the river when it can so easily be read as a missed draw, and may win the hand without any additional risk?

[TwoFourOffsuit 0]

A 9 out draw cant call the flop bet, so if hes drawing its probably a 12 out draw with the As. Does Ax s push the river when it can so easily be read as a missed draw, and may win the hand without any additional risk?

Sure, when a single opponent shows weakness by failing to follow up an obvious continuation bet on the turn.

[copernicus 0]

Sure, when a single opponent shows weakness by failing to follow up an obvious continuation bet on the turn.

I think its a bad push with Axs. Its too easy to get looked up by a better Ace with that board.