Posted 08 August 2006 - 11:26 AM
I was on Full Tilt Poker and saw Phil Gordon playing in a omaha game right after I noticed he was one of the 7 involved with the recent lawsuit against the WPT. Here is the conversation I had with him, he didn't want me to post it and I was going to respect his wishes until I see a bunch of hate directed towards him. This may open up your eyes more and understand what is really going on with this lawsuit.---------------------------------------------Full tilt poker chat---------------------------------------------Dealer: Phil Gordon shows a flush, Ace highDealer: Phil Gordon wins the pot ($784) with a flush, Ace highDealer: Hand #874431309Gambino23 (Observer): Phil is a traitor Gambino23 (Observer): Wptlawsuit.comGambino23 (Observer): Cant believe this stuffGambino23 (Observer): Daniel Negreanu is so mad about thisPhil Gordon: Gambino, get educatedDealer: hAAydon wins the pot ($38.95)Dealer: Hand #874433863Gambino23 (Observer): Well maybe I am taking sides thoPhil Gordon: if you're going to comment, don't do so ignorantlyGambino23 (Observer): I goto Daniel Negreanus site a lot and just hear his point of view and Raymer go off on himPhil Gordon: Daniel is not being overly intelligent about this issuePhil Gordon: in my opinionPhil Gordon: and yes, we're friends and will be regardlesss of his stancekartracer63: why no pocket cams on ppv ?Gambino23 (Observer): Phil I think your a great guy, hell you sent me your autograph, im just a little shock thats all about who filed the suit. Dont get me wrong I plan on fully reading everyones point of view but I just found out you were involvedPhil Gordon: but he is spealing without really understanding the legal issuesDealer: FromAbove wins the pot ($28.50)Dealer: Hand #874440289SonnyJonez (Observer): Hiya philGambino23 (Observer): the point Daniel made about most poker players wouldnt be where they are today of WPT is true tho dont you think?Gambino23 (Observer): WPT created such a great image for so many poker playersPhil Gordon: think about it and the players involved: do you really think we would file this suit if you didn't think it had real merit and would HELP the players?Gambino23 (Observer): Very true...Dealer: jersey cows shows two pair, Aces and FivesDealer: hic shows a full house, Fives full of FoursDealer: hic wins the pot ($168) with a full house, Fives full of FoursDealer: Hand #874445668Phil Gordon: think for just a minute... think about the 7 players that filed the suit... think that it has already cost us about 200k in legal feesPhil Gordon: fees that none of the other players are payingPhil Gordon: our lawyers are not dumbasses - - they are the best antitrust legal counsel in the business, they won free agency for NFL, NBA, MLB, and othershic: kk no good ehDealer: kartracer63 wins the pot ($105)Dealer: Hand #874449103Phil Gordon: they would not back this suit unless they thought it had meritPhil Gordon: what the WPT is doing is CRIMINAL and ILLEGAL and will not be allowed to continuePhil Gordon: periodDealer: FromAbove has 15 seconds left to actGambino23 (Observer): That does make me wonder what's really going on...like I said everyone kept talking about this "group of 7 players" and talking down on them....but after realizing who is on it like Howard Chris F Hachem you Raymer makes me think twice Dealer: FromAbove has timed outPhil Gordon: read the lawsuit.hic: theres my flopPhil Gordon: www.wptlawsuit.comPhil Gordon: ask a lawyer friendPhil Gordon: read the WPT release for gods sakeSystem: Tonight at 12:00AM ET there will be a $69+$6/Token NL Hold'em tournament with a $12,000 guaranteed prize pool.Gambino23 (Observer): You know Phil I give you a lot more credit talking about it to some average Joe like myself and sharing your opinion that actually shows a lotPhil Gordon: think about how you'd feel if you won a tournament and then walked down the street to see your face all over a billboard for WPT #@! cream.Dealer: hAAydon has 15 seconds left to actGambino23 (Observer): I just found out about the site and the 7, and saw you on so I would say I jumped the gun without all the knowledge. Dealer: hAAydon shows two pair, Jacks and FivesDealer: hAAydon wins the pot ($546.90) with two pair, Jacks and FivesDealer: Hand #874457752Phil Gordon: the issue is simple: they force you to sign an illegal releaseGambino23 (Observer): Yeah I would feel like I got taken advantage ofPhil Gordon: that release states that they can use your name, likeness, and image FOR ANY PURPOSE WHATSOEVER FOR THE REST OF TIME.Dealer: jersey cows shows [Ac 6h Qs Ah]Dealer: kartracer63 shows [5h 3s 4h 7d]Dealer: jersey cows wins the side pot ($18.80)Dealer: jersey cows shows three of a kind, AcesDealer: kartracer63 shows a pair of ThreesDealer: jersey cows wins the main pot ($36.35) with three of a kind, AcesPhil Gordon: Even if the current management isn't going to use that power (and they have, by the way) there is no guarantee that the future management would be kindDealer: Hand #874462006actiondavidk (Observer): hello philPhil Gordon: we have to put a stop to this exploitation now. end of story. and I'm willing to put up a couple hundred thousand of my own money so that the players that HAVEN"T gotten famous from this poker boom yet don't get taken advantage of. If anything, Gambino23 (Observer): The thing I would wonder is, if the WPT will black ball you in future tournaments regardless of the result of the lawsuit?Dealer: FromAbove wins the pot ($87)Dealer: Hand #874465787Phil Gordon: I would thijnk that the players of the world would thank us profusely.Phil Gordon: and now, back to poker.Dealer: jersey cows wins the pot ($69)Dealer: Hand #874468700Dealer: FromAbove has 5 seconds left to actDealer: FromAbove has timed outGambino23 (Observer): well Phil maybe I shouldnt have mentioned it while your in a hand, I was just really wondering what was going on. I really appreciate you responding to it, cuz everyone is talking about itPhil Gordon: and they should beDealer: kartracer63 shows [Qh As Ah Qs]Dealer: hic shows [Ts 9s 9d 5c]Phil Gordon: please tell your friends to check out the siteDealer: kartracer63 shows a flush, Ace highDealer: hic shows a flush, King highDealer: kartracer63 wins the pot ($381) with a flush, Ace highPhil Gordon: www.wptlawsuit.comDealer: Hand #874472933Gambino23 (Observer): who is the head guy taken action, you?Phil Gordon: BTW, I've asked Daniel for a video debate... no word yet.AFRONINJA (Observer): phil why dont u roshambo them instead? that way you will win guaranteedSystem: Tonight at 12:00AM ET there is a $10+$1 Midnight Madness tournament with a $5,000 guaranteed prize pool.Gambino23 (Observer): Are you in charge of the website?Phil Gordon: no, there is no "head guy" -- we're all equal complaintantsPhil Gordon: no
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