a hand with phil gordon.

[KTW 0]

I posted this some months ago but not in this section.Hand #1377889-3928 at Manalapan (No Limit Hold'em) Started at 12/Apr/04 00:39:46 cyberspo is at seat 0 with $2777. tallphil is at seat 2 with $985. Scarpia is at seat 3 with $1225. Crazy Hippy is at seat 5 with $1156. KTW35 is at seat 7 with $1000. Cold Cash is at seat 9 with $1535. KTW35 posts the small blind of $5. Cold Cash posts the big blind of $10. KTW35: Ks As Pre-flop: cyberspo raises to $35. tallphil calls. Scarpia folds. Crazy Hippy folds. KTW35 reraises to $100. Cold Cash folds. cyberspro calls. tallphil calls. Flop (board: 8s Qs 3d): CptKirkJ checks. cyberspo checks. tallphil bets $250. KTW35 goes all-in for $900. cyberspro folds. tallphil goes all-in for $885. KTW35 is returned $15 (uncalled). Turn (board: 8s Qs 3d Jc): (no action in this round) River (board: 8s Qs 3d Jc Th): (no action in this round) Showdown: KTW35 shows Ks As. KTW35 has Ks As Qs Jc Th: straight, ace high. tallphil shows 6s 5s. tallphil has 6s 8s Qs Jc Th: queen high. Hand #1377889-3928 Summary: $3 is raked from a pot of $2100. KTW35 wins $2097 with straight, ace high. After I won this hand he went on about how bad my play was and this and that. He obviously thought I was someone he could bully at the table. He challenged me to play a heads up SnG for $1,000. I agreed but he never entered the table. He didn't reraise cyberpro and didn't reraise me preflop but called 2 raises :roll: . I just didn't think he made trips on the flop and I had nut flush draw so I went for it after he bet out. Maybe not a super play; but for him to call my allin with a very small flush draw and no pair was for sure not a good play. Maybe he thought he the had best draw. I don't know. Assuming he thought I was a mediocre player; and then calls my allin, he should in noway put me on a bluff in that spot. :roll:

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Interesting..So, he called off his stack on a 6 high flush draw, and you're the donk? Heh, that's funny to me. Does he realize that even if you don't go runner-runner straight he needs to spike a five or six to win this? Good stuff.As for the actual hand, I like the re-raise preflop, but, do you think it's enough? Do you think 125 or so thins the field a bit more?Flop, I like the push, but, I don't mind folding either. How do you play this if you're in the BB or don't have position? I think your position was key here, really.

[KTW 0]

Interesting..So, he called off his stack on a 6 high flush draw, and you're the donk? Heh, that's funny to me. Does he realize that even if you don't go runner-runner straight he needs to spike a five or six to win this? Good stuff.As for the actual hand, I like the re-raise preflop, but, do you think it's enough? Do you think 125 or so thins the field a bit more?Flop, I like the push, but, I don't mind folding either. How do you play this if you're in the BB or don't have position? I think your position was key here, really.

So $125 instead of $100? Ok I guess that would work aswell.If cyberpro hit the flop he would not have checked based on previous play.I just didn't think PG hit trips or an AQ type hand so I pushed. Even if he had AQ I was only about a 4% dog so I went for it. You have to be willing to risk $1,000 in $5/$10 NL so I did.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Interesting..So, he called off his stack on a 6 high flush draw, and you're the donk? Heh, that's funny to me. Does he realize that even if you don't go runner-runner straight he needs to spike a five or six to win this? Good stuff.As for the actual hand, I like the re-raise preflop, but, do you think it's enough? Do you think 125 or so thins the field a bit more?Flop, I like the push, but, I don't mind folding either. How do you play this if you're in the BB or don't have position? I think your position was key here, really.

So $125 instead of $100? Ok I guess that would work aswell.If cyberpro hit the flop he would not have checked based on previous play.I just didn't think PG hit trips or an AQ type hand so I pushed. Even if he had AQ I was only about a 4% dog so I went for it. You have to be willing to risk $1,000 in $5/$10 NL so I did.

I agree. I think you played it great.I was just wondering if you thought a bigger preflop raise would've thinned it out at all

[KTW 0]

I was just wondering if you thought a bigger preflop raise would've thinned it out at all

Nope.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Bump.I like the flop push, but, what do you guys think?

[JSHamm 9]

Bump.I like the flop push, but, what do you guys think?

Pre-flop raise seems weirdish, but not 'Screech-from-Saved-by-the bell-weirdish' $150 may be better to me.Flop: Definitely push here if you don't put him on the set, you have more outs than Tiffany Amber Theissen has cleavage

[Pokerdad2222 0]

Bump.I like the flop push, but, what do you guys think?

I like the flop play as well. phil ust cold calls 2 raises preflop rather than raising. I think set or AQ is only thing he could call with (Well, besides the 7th nut draw as we clearly see here.) I think we can eliminate q's for the most part with preflop play and 3's would be iffy. Calling hands are narrow and there is nothing your dead to. At the least you have the flush outs and very easily an overcard or two. I am more interested in the preflop play as I feel this is where my play lacks some. I know there have been a lot of debates about reraising with AK from a blind against a decent size field of people because of the position. I think Paul Phillips made the point one time that he hates to reraise from the blind with this because of position. Any thoughts???I agree with Drawing dead that I like a little bigger reraise but more in the 150 area than 100 or 125. The predicament comes if this flop comes with no spades. We are out of position with no hand in a good size pot already against 2 opponents. If the flop has no spades can we make a continuation bet into 2 people into a $350 pot?

[KTW 0]

I just realized that when I copied and pasted 2 times and then condensed it I goofed. There were 2 others at the table. I didn't put them in the hand but left captkirk in there by mistake. He folded after PG bet the flop so it didn't change anything.If NO spade or A or K hits flop and I its checked to me I would have bet. I do not know how much because I did hit 2 spades and had 2 overs and this was 21 months ago so I can't recall the exact "feel" of the table other than cyberpro was a Gorilla and I knew PG would try and take over the table after he arrived.

[ChrisOfSpades 0]

i cant believe you played back at phil gordon.phil gordon is god at the poker table.isnt it clear that you are supposed to fold when you have 82 outs and the pot is laying you 2.5:1? only donks like you make plays like this. phil gordon is god. god.

[KTW 0]

phil gordon is god.

God forgot to duck.

[spacemonkey 0]

Preflop should either be called or make a much bigger reraise. I prefer the call slightly. Playing a big pot with two players behind you and AK is not good. When you call the pot is $115 so I'd reraise by about $150. Personally I know that if I'm in position with deep stacks and I've already put money in you have to work real hard to get me away from the flop.Phil's call was pretty bad I think. He was getting 2.3:1 but the only hand you could have in that spot was AsKs or QQ and against those hands he's still not getting the right price.