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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)SB ($1.60)Hero ($1.82)UTG ($4.87)MP ($5.80)Button ($4.69)Preflop: Hero is BB with 7diamond.gif, 8diamond.gif. UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, SB completes, Hero checks.Flop: ($0.08) 4club.gif, 6diamond.gif, Kdiamond.gif(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.06, UTG calls $0.06, Button folds, SB folds.Turn: ($0.20) 9diamond.gif(2 players)Hero bets $0.12, UTG calls $0.12.River: ($0.44) Tspade.gif(2 players)Hero bets $0.3, UTG raises to $0.6, Hero?Is a raise +EV?

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If it's a raise, it's an all-in. You only have $1 or so more after his raise. WTF else would you do? Minraise? hhahahahaaha.Seriously though, you can shove here, but calling isn't awful, imo. You need reads.

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I don't see how you can't shove. If you're beat, I think it's a cooler. It's also 1/2 cent, so I'm sure the guy is not only raising with two pair here, but is bad enough to call if you shove. I don't think it can be anything else.

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Is a raise +EV?
I don't know if a river raise is +ev ... I bet more on the flop. You flopped a nice little combo gutter to the nut straight -- building the pot more along the way makes the river push easier. And I know you're trying to disguise your hand on the turn, but I bet more there, too. We made our hand. Filling the pot in increments is easier than asking for all of it on the river.
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I don't know if a river raise is +ev ... I bet more on the flop. You flopped a nice little combo gutter to the nut straight -- building the pot more along the way makes the river push easier. And I know you're trying to disguise your hand on the turn, but I bet more there, too. We made our hand. Filling the pot in increments is easier than asking for all of it on the river.
So, you advocate betting more on the flop with 8 high and betting more on the turn, but now that we're at the river and have the same hand we had on the turn, you want to just call?Shove the river all day here. At these stakes, you'll get called by any 2 pair hand and even some lesser holdings. The main reason to shove is that your stack isn't too big and he'll get good odds to call with a wider range, making the move more profitable.
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So, you advocate betting more on the flop with 8 high and betting more on the turn, but now that we're at the river and have the same hand we had on the turn, you want to just call?Shove the river all day here. At these stakes, you'll get called by any 2 pair hand and even some lesser holdings. The main reason to shove is that your stack isn't too big and he'll get good odds to call with a wider range, making the move more profitable.
Well, I'm saying it's easier to get the call because we're offering better odds to the villain. Maybe he can fold pair for 2:1 but maybe he can't for 4:1.
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At these stakes wouldn't we be making it hail?No offense intended OP :)Oh yeah, instashove.
Er, how would that be offensive to me??
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He's got a few posts in here somewhere but nothing for a long time I think.
Daniel does not associate with us sick degenerates in Strat.Or our increasingly long Variance thread that is mostly about professional football gambling, No_Neck running really good, and Zach occasionally dropping a hockey reference.
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He's got a few posts in here somewhere but nothing for a long time I think.
Daniel actually replied to one of my threads not too long ago. I was actually excited. How gay is that? But not the kind of excited where you do something naughty, and then vow not to wash something else forever.
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