Daniel Negreanu On Espn Inside Deal

[nyrajf 0]

Daniel comes on and talks his hall of fame nomination, the WSOP Europe and plays "ESPN Inside Deal Nit-Twits" against Michael Binger.http://espn.com/insidedeal

[tuckermitchell 1]

Michael Binger's hair is probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a while. Daniel is engaging, the show looks nice, everything else is incredibly boring.

[nutzbuster 7]

Michael Binger's hair is probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a while. Daniel is engaging, the show looks nice, everything else is incredibly boring.

"...Michael....I am your FA ther!..."

[DanielNegreanu 141]

"...Michael....I am your FA ther!..."

Public Option for all Americans. Take care of the sick and the poor. It's our moral duty. K, Off topic LOL.

[gatortom64 1]

Public Option for all Americans. Take care of the sick and the poor. It's our moral duty. K, Off topic LOL.

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[Lrgetrout 1]

Public Option for all Americans. Take care of the sick and the poor. It's our moral duty. K, Off topic LOL.

As long as it does not cover non-citizens.

[nutzbuster 7]

Public Option for all Americans. Take care of the sick and the poor. It's our moral duty. K, Off topic LOL.

lol Ninja OT Obama ambushamentsYou know, next to Checky, you're my favorite lib. But I'm think there is a blog political forum for this kinda talk dude. Keep it up and I'll sic Balloon Guy on you....

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

Public Option for all Americans. Take care of the sick and the poor. It's our moral duty. K, Off topic LOL.

So, you don't understand what a public option is or means?

[DanielNegreanu 141]

So, you don't understand what a public option is or means?

Yes I do. Why would you assume I didn't? Most civilized countries offer government run healthcare.

[colonel Feathers 5]

Yes I do. Why would you assume I didn't? Most civilized countries offer government run healthcare.

Now you understand what makes this country great. We aint like other civilized countries.

[fighter 4]

Now you understand what makes this country great. We aint like other civilized countries.

This would be a great point. If your system wasn't so lowly ranked.

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

Yes I do. Why would you assume I didn't? Most civilized countries offer government run healthcare.

We have a big discussion on this over in your blog forum and I don't want to spread that discussion all over the forum.That said, a few points to think over:- Private health care that steps in for the governments failures is a fast growing industry, to the degree the law allows, in many of the countries you're no doubt thinking of (including Canada). Logic dictates that this would not be the case for a system that was adequately taking care of its citizens.- By the "us" taking care of the poor and the sick as you said, that means everyone in relation to healthcare. If you aren't sick, you don't typically need health care. I assume by us you mean the government? So it seems like what you're saying is you want a single payor system, which is ultimately what a public option becomes anyway (as admitted by plenty of democratic senators and congressmen). - A public option does nothing to address the real problems with our current system, namely that the underlying costs of providing care, regardless of the provider,are driven up by poorly structured laws and standards across the board in areas from malpractice legislation to standardization of records. However, what it does is move the onus for payments to medical providers to a less efficient entity (the government) with a ton of negative side effects that are covered ad nauseum in the health care thread (reductions in choice, innovation, quality of care, etc). The people who, in the mind of most liberals, are your opposition, don't want to deny citizens of this country care because of some unfortunate circumstance in their lives. We want to fix the actual health care system so that more people can afford insurance for the things they truly need it for. We want to focus on reforming the healthcare system and doing things that will allow more people to be covered without costing the government any more real money (or granting it any more power). Here is a list posted in the HC thread that's a great list of ideas to help cover more people, lower the cost and increase the quality of care for everyone (not just the 10-15M involuntarily uninsured):

Why not try these, and we'll see what we need after that?1) Various lawsuit reforms to keep down medical malpractice premiums, whose costs are passed on to consumers. 2) Allowing health insurance to be bought and sold across state lines. 3) Allowing the tax break for health insurance to be claimed by individuals as well as by businesses. 4) Increased use of health savings accounts. 5) Creation of "health stamps" for low-income people who otherwise wouldn't qualify for tax credits. 6) Allowing doctors who provide pro bono care to treat the value of their time spent doing so as a charitable deduction from their income taxes. 7) Allowing states to band together in regional insurance-pooling arrangements. 8) Various measures to make it easier for patients to figure out the costs of various services and doctors' fees so they can comparison-shop.

The reason I assume you don't understand what jumping into a public option would mean to america is that it is a concept that only sounds good at the most very basic surface level, and doesn't pass any kind of detailed scrutiny from an economic, quality of care, or any other perspective. I know you are smarter than that and assume you just haven't researched the issue. If you'd like to have a discussion about the merits of any of the proposed systems, we've got a thread for that which is, with the exception of a few trolls, one of the most thoughtful, productive discussions i've ever seen on FCP on any topic.