Jam-Fly 8 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Was just wondering if anyone is interested in one of these? I saw it done on another forum and think it's really interesting. I know there isn't a huge soccer-fan population here, but I said I'd put it out there and see whose interested. Basically...What is it? Basically, we would have two threads. One for draft picks and one for discussion of draft picks. People who are interested would agree to pick footballers from the history of the premiership according to a predetermined order in turn until each participant has a team of eleven players. It would be up to them to decide what formation to play them in and they would be obliged to do one final post at the end where they sum up why they chose as they did and how they would envisage their lineup working together as a team. The idea is a rip off of the American drafting system for their professional sports. Here is an example of what I am talking about. Why? Because it's fun!! If you're sad like me, you like discussing and debating best of lists and arguing over which sports teams or players from the past were better. And a process like this can help you reach a better understanding of the game or open your eyes up to players or ideas that you had never heard of before. Sounds good, rules? - You can only take players who participated in at least 50 premiership games during their career (this means that one season wonders are excluded from consideration - a player will need to be on a squad for more than one season); - The player is assessed on the basis of how good he was during his period in the premiership only. Therefore, if you selected Edgar Davids or Youri Djorkaeff for example - you would be getting the Spurs and Bolton versions respectively - not the guys who destroyed European football at Juve and Inter during their primes; - Selection order will be randomly decided by a draw from a hat and will go ABBAABBAABBA and so on; - Clock expires on a drafter after 24 hrs. After that time, the next player on the list will be allowed to go and it will up to the skipped player to post a pick in the draft thread at their earliest convenience; - When someone has completed a pick, they should pm the next in line to inform them that it is their turn; - The Draft thread is for picks only and should be left uncluttered. There will be a separate thread for discussion of picks; - People are obliged to go to google images and put up a photo of the player they are selecting and provide some sort of spiel as to why they are drafting them at that time; - After each participant has selected eleven players they are obliged to put one more post in the draft thread which provides a final formation and discusses the tactics that would be ideally employed in an imaginary game; Ok, I'm still interested Good! Please bear in mind though that these things can go on for weeks until they are finished. It is also worth noting that other people will rate players differently to you and will sometimes make picks that you perceive as being retarded. It's more fun for everyone though if you can refrain from simply posting along the lines of "he's crap and that's a terrible pick" and instead trying to explain why you think selections are good or bad. Finally, while it stunts discussion for the first round and a half or so, it is best not to mention undrafted players. So, if Roy Keane is selected with the first pick - try not to say "Vieira is much better in my opinion". Now, obviously one would assume that everyone up for participating in this kind of thing would be aware of how similar the two players are - but as things move beyond the obvious choices people who are less willing to put in research or don't know as much about the game as a whole shouldn't be let off the hook by others mentioning the best players available in the later rounds. Okay, so that's the general idea. I think we would need a minimum of 6 interested posters to make it worthwhile/interesting. Any more than 6, great! So I guess, let me know if your interested, and we'll get it started ASAP! Link to post Share on other sites
rinswun 6 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 sure, i'd be in. sounds like fun. Link to post Share on other sites
LJB723 0 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Banter. In. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Shouldn't you do this at the start of the season? Link to post Share on other sites
LJB723 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Shouldn't you do this at the start of the season?I think because it encompasses the history of the Premiership back to the 92-93 season then it doesn't matter when it starts. Obviously player like Cantona and Keane can no longer earn points.Although that does raise a good point, how does the scoring work? Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Oh, sorry, I must confess that I just read the title, and thought it was odd that you were starting a premiership fantasy pool in the middle of the season. I'm retarded, I'll read the OP's in the future. Carry on. Link to post Share on other sites
LJB723 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Oh, sorry, I must confess that I just read the title, and thought it was odd that you were starting a premiership fantasy pool in the middle of the season. I'm retarded, I'll read the OP's in the future. Carry on.Join in? You can have first dibs on Liverpool players? Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Join in? You can have first dibs on Liverpool players?I don't have the historical background for this sort of thing. But I'll enjoy reading the thread to learn. Link to post Share on other sites
mrpaddyx 13 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I'd be interested (especially if I get to pick Shearer in my team!) Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 i did it on 2p2 and I'd love to do it here too. Does anyone have the same champ man that was used for it, cause that was almost all of the fun. It was fun drafting, but then "seeing" it get played out on champ man made it even betteredit: What I suggest is how we did it on 2p2 where we have a seperate draft thread and a banter thread. I will heavily mod the banter thread for people being dumbasses on strongly hinting at a player or fully mentioning a non-drafted player by name. If someone repeatedly abuses the non-drafted name mentioning I will ban Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 OK, because I'm dense...We are drafting players with 50+ Premiership games under their beltWe then pick a season to represent their statistical impactWe each have a side of 11Aside from that, i don't know how it's going to work, so explanations would be appreciated, but I am interested, for sure...Also, this is based on the FA Premier League which began in 1992, right?On a related note, anyone ever play Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe (old PC game). Like football (soccer), but with Bladerunner overtones and some violence. One of the best PC games I ever played. Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I think it should be done from around 1980 onwards, rather than strictly Premiership.In my opinion that would be more fun because at least we could compare players from the great 80's Liverpool sides with today's players, and also the 80's teams of Nottingham Forest, United and Everton etc. Link to post Share on other sites
LJB723 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I think it should be done from around 1980 onwards, rather than strictly Premiership.In my opinion that would be more fun because at least we could compare players from the great 80's Liverpool sides with today's players, and also the 80's teams of Nottingham Forest, United and Everton etc.This is cool but it's going to be pretty difficult picking players as it is! Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 So is there enough interest to run with this? And yes, I agree that there should be a picks only thread and a discussion thread.I don't like the 1980s onward idea. Quite frankly, I'd only be able to accurately judge about a dozen players from the 80s. The rest of the players I'd have to be basing my opinions on what I've read/heard. I'd imagine there'd be alot of others in the same boat as I.I'm happy to get this shit started if everyone is still up for it? Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 would I be correct in assuming that all the following are interested:Jam-Fly, rinswun, LJB723, mr paddyx, kdawgcometh, james D, mercury69If so, that's 7. Usually, it's best if there's like 20 of us picking players, because then the real fun begins as you have to start selecting lesser known player. However, with 7 of us, it would mean each of our 11s would be a bit stronger than usual and it would be over quicker. Either way, I still think it's worth doing it. Link to post Share on other sites
rinswun 6 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 i'm still interested for sure.mercury - i have played speedball 2, but on the megadrive. absolutely awesome game, probably my favourite game on the megadrive outside of streets of rage and 2 crude dudes. Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 OK, because I'm dense...We are drafting players with 50+ Premiership games under their beltWe then pick a season to represent their statistical impactWe each have a side of 11Aside from that, i don't know how it's going to work, so explanations would be appreciated, but I am interested, for sure...Also, this is based on the FA Premier League which began in 1992, right?On a related note, anyone ever play Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe (old PC game). Like football (soccer), but with Bladerunner overtones and some violence. One of the best PC games I ever played.Basically, we draft 11 players in alternating picks. Each player must have played 50+ games in the Premiership. The players are judged on their overall performance in the Premiership (remember, Premiership only. If you pick Edgar Davids, you get the Spurs Davids only, not the Juventus Davids. If you pick Beckham, you get the Man. Utd version, not the Madrid/Milan/LA version etc.). We pick players in one thread, and discuss the picks in another thread. It's mostly about just discussing and comparing players. It gets interesting as some people rate players higher than others, and it's up to them to prove their point. When everyone has made 11 picks, they make a final post with tactics, strategies, how their team will play, why they are the best team etc.Hopefully, when the final teams are picked, we can have a cup competition between the teams and end up with a 'best team'. The cup competition will be done through voting system (probably on a soccer-specific forum as we don't have a big enough soccer community to get an accurate/big enough vote). Or if anyone has that Champ Manager that KDawg was talking about htat would be awesome.Okay, I'll set up the two threads. Please let me know if you DO NOT want to be involved, as I'm assuming the 7 I listed are interested Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 Shall we use this thread as the discussion thread? hardly any point starting a new one?Remember, the other thread is just for people to submit their picks. Don't post anything else in that thread. Link to post Share on other sites
rinswun 6 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 i know of no 'historic' champ/football manager but if there is one i gotta be given a link, it would be awesome! Link to post Share on other sites
rinswun 6 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 excellent first pick though you forgot to mention his celebration was perhaps the simplest and best plus the most copied on playgrounds and park pitches across the uk. also once witnessed at the Grosvenor Casino in Brighton when my friend won £1600 on 1 hand hitting a royal flush whilst playing 3 card poker. great times. Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Pretty sure I've won this already. There's not 11 players combined who come close to challenging Ryan Giggs Hey Rinswun, where are you from.. are you English? You said your friend won £ in Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites
rinswun 6 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Pretty sure I've won this already. There's not 11 players combined who come close to challenging Ryan Giggs Hey Rinswun, where are you from.. are you English? You said your friend won £ in Brighton.yep, originally from london (twickenham) - came to uni in Brighton 7 years ago, got a gf, got a job, got a degree and havent gone back to london yet! pain in the arse commuting to and from griffin park for home games though! Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 yep, originally from london (twickenham) - came to uni in Brighton 7 years ago, got a gf, got a job, got a degree and havent gone back to london yet! pain in the arse commuting to and from griffin park for home games though!Ok cool, I always assumed you were Canadian (the avatar I think... what is it with some of you guys and hockey? I dont get it, lol!)On that note, I heard LJB is preparing his first pick.. Jason Lee! Link to post Share on other sites
LJB723 0 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ok cool, I always assumed you were Canadian (the avatar I think... what is it with some of you guys and hockey? I dont get it, lol!)On that note, I heard LJB is preparing his first pick.. Jason Lee!Ha! You dick!I was going for Schmeichel. Looks like I have to re-think now. Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I propose we also get to pick a manager... is it too late to suggest that, or can we do it from round 2? Link to post Share on other sites
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