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Here is the situation:Blinds: 20,000- 40,000Antes: 5000Stack: 6,000,000Total chips in play: 11,280Players Left: 7 So it's seven handed at the WPT championship at Bellagio and you have a mosnter chip lead with over half the chips in play. Your opponents are all at around one million in chips and playing rather cautiously hoping someone else goes broke. You are raising an average of 2.5 hands per round and picking up the blinds without a fight. Now from early position you raise with K :D 7 :) to 150,000. All fold to the small blind who goes all in for a total of 650,000 and it's back to you.

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fold, i dont care about whether im getting pot odds, if i can keep picking up these blinds 2.5 times around the table ill increase my stack like that rather than risking another 400k to win a pot where i have to show what im raising with and could be in bad shape

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I'd fold as well, unless you have some kind of read that makes you think he's on a bluff just because of your previous play. I don't think you have any reason to double this guy up, and it seems likely that you'll be able to continue picking up most pots that you raise after this one as well. This play might lead others at the table to start re-raising you more, but I don't think that's enough of a reason to call here.

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Call. There's 875k in the pot and 500k more to call so you're getting almost 2-1 on your money. Unless he's got Aces, Kings or Ace-King you're probably around a 2-1 underdog so go ahead and call. If you win or lose you're still in the same situation with a big chip lead against a bunch of clustered opponents. By showing that you'll call with a less than premium hand it's going to make it harder for them to play-back at you letting you pick up more blinds.

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I'd call. So it costs you another 500k to call, big deal. You still have a HUGE chip lead over the rest of the field and if you lose this pot, you'll get it back real quick if you continue to raise every 2.5 hands or so winning 95k a pop.It's a small price to pay to send the message "I'm willing to gamble if you come over the top of my raise." Win or lose, you can be pretty sure the small stacks are going to tighten up even more after a call like that. When they all looked at you funny, did you give them the standard online poker response? "But they were suited!"

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call, you're still in decent shape even if you lose.Folding here will only entice others to protect their blinds, a message here to the rest of the table telling them, that you mean business is the best route to go.

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Call!!!Everyone has already covered the pot odds, showing your willing to back up your raises, etc but if you remember Raymer at the WSOP, he called every time someone pushed all in. Why? Because he had the chip strength to withstand the loses and knew that most often head-t0-head meetings are just a coin flip. The only reason I could see folding here is if you knew the player wouldn't raise with anything but pocket Aces or Kings.

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Call.You've been stealing blinds and raising pre-flop for the last couple of hands. I wouldn't put the SB on a monster, but it's possible. I'd say he's close to the short stack, (so play aggressive against him, even still) and trying to make a play with a decent/strong hand, anywhere around JJ, TT, QQ, AQo, KJs...maybe even nines. SB may think 'this a bluff and you can't back up your raise, you're simply stealing blinds and I won't let that happen'. K7s is a medium hand that has potential against this SB.

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Folding here will only entice others to protect their blinds, a message here to the rest of the table telling them, that you mean business is the best route to go.
Not only will folding entice others to protect their blinds, it will entice them to do so with weaker hands. By calling, the rest of the table will be on alert that they need a big hand to raise. This could be some cheap advertising.Folding keeps them guessing, thinking that you were in there with complete trash. Pot odds supported the call for a coin flip, what if this hand is dominated, which is likely. Still gotta say fold, this time. I won't be surprised to see Daniel's suggested play be to call.
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Here is the situation: Your opponents are all at around one million in chips and playing rather cautiously hoping someone else goes broke.    You are raising an average of 2.5 hands per round and picking up the blinds without a fight.   Now from early position you raise with K :D 7 :)  to 150,000.  All fold to the small blind who goes all in for a total of 650,000 and it's back to you.
Opponents playing cautiously and Daniel picking up the blinds without a fight suggest that the SB has a premium hand. We're getting 1.75 to 1. If the opponents were raising aggressively this hand would be worth calling. But just barely. Against any pair, any ace, and KQ and KJ, it is about 1.68 to 1. If this player is only playing pairs 55 and up plus ace with an 8 and up, it's 1.82 to 1. Fold the K7s.One other reason the SB is likely to have a premium hand. On the Travel Network boardcast only the final six is shown on TV. No one wants to gamble and miss being on TV.
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Everyone is missing one important point: If you fold now it will show that you might be raising with garbage and will fold to a reraise.If you call, whether you win or lose at least you make people think twice about moving in on you. so you must CALLif you lose it won't be huge hit to you, and unless he has KK or AA you aren't a huge underdog you'll be getting decent pot odds anyways, no way in hell should you fold.

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I would say you have to call, I could understand folding since you keep stealing the blinds, but you need to show that you won't fold on the first sign of resistance. Even if you lose you will still be the chip leader, and it will show that you protect your raises. He probably has a decent hand, but yours is still probably good enough to call with. By the way is this a hand from your last championship win?

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Without any hesitation, call. You have to expect the SS to be on a premium hand, AK, AQ, KK, AA, or those lines, and feeling good. You're on a draw to the 2nd nut spade flush. Even if you lose this hand, you tighten up just slightly, but go back to hitting the bigger hands, and maybe you'll get a desperation re-raise from someone hurting later on. Also remember, with the blinds and antes where they are, these SSs have LESS THAN 10 HANDS to go before being blinded out, so they've got to be getting desperate. In that situation, call instantly.

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Call-Somebody said you have to fold so nobody sees what you're raising with, but i think its safe to say they know you're not holding a monster 5 of 14 hands. You're getting 3-2 for your money and if he's (or she is it was Harman) holding A-8 through A-Q w/o a :D you're only a 40-60 dog. If you're up against a monster, it'd be unlikely to be put in before the flop with the loose raising image....on second thought ... foldlet them think all they have to do is go in on me and i'll fold ... then i'll get em when i pick up a hand later

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I will only attempt.If you fold you will entice more players to go all in. This seems like a good play. With people going all in more often, you can trap them and knock them out. You have the chips to raise, and let it go. You still show people you are raising marginal hands by folding, but they will never know if you hold AA, or 72. But they will try moving all in to push you off of your hand, but when you have a pair, or AK...you wont budge.I remember reading something by daniel saying that he will call some bets at the final table that pot odds don't justify, because if he gets lucky, he can knock out a quality player and move up in money. Although it seems like calling with K :D 7 :) is a good example of this, by folding you will allow yourself more chances.Also, it seems like you are bullying the table, if that is the case, I would be afraid this guy had a really good hand because he finally made a stand. I would say you would want the action with all those chips. If you call people will only go all in with good hands, because they know you will call with marginal ones. I would just have to say fold.

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At $6m and 2.5 raises per round everyone knows you are using your stack too bully the table and you might have any hand. Winning or losing this hand makes little difference too your stack....you still have the chips to get it back if you lose. Winning or losing the hand is not the point. In this hand you are aiming to make a point and get the response you want, which is too loosen the table up and show you will give action.If you fold, you are sending the message everyone already knew....you have been bullying the table. They see you got caught and folded. This will not loosen them up, only make them stay tight and wait for when they can have a go at you. If you call you are saying that you are willing to gamble preflop with a marginal hand, out of position. While you never want to doubleup someone on the final table, in this hand you are not totally dead....probably a dog, but not dead.If you lose you will get more action. If you win you will get more action. If you fold you will only be facing premium tickets everytime. Winning 90K uncontested each round "sounds" nice, but you want to loosen the table up.

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If you are raising 2.5 rounds per hand and picking up blinds easily, then it shows that everyone @ the table is waiting for a time to double up. Who cares if you have so many chips? Let's keep it that way! We only' have King High.It seems that the only way we are going to get attacked is when somebody picks up a nice hand to double up on. Also, we raised from early position, which to seems to show strength. ( I know its onl 7 handed and its obvious that we are just trying to pick up blinds on many hands but we should still take in to account that it is from early position)I'm sick of people saying "Call, you can afford it!" So many people will get a huge chip lead only to lose it because "they can afford it" I worked hard for my chips and I want to keep them damnit! Especially with a decent raise when I know I am so far behind. The person who went all in is in the small blind. The small blind is ready to be the button next hand, and have 5 hands without having to pay. They aren't afraid of going in now because they are STRONG. I really feel like we are a big underdog and I would rather keep this person as low on chips as possible. I'm not going to call them to throw away what I have earned. Move on to the next hand because this person has a nice hand. Say they have aces or kings, WE'RE CRUSHED. I don't want to call a huge raise HOPING i have an overcard. I've picked up enough blinds to be able to make that preflop raise and let it go. Calling here would be horrible because of how many chips are involved, roughly 1/10 if you make the call.This is pretty much an automatic fold to me because it's way too big of a pot to be in knowing you are behind and might even be totally dominated.

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