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CryptologicNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.03/$0.066 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $7.11UTG+1: $8CO: $3.59Button: $14.12SB: $1.79Hero: $9.93Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J :) 9 :DUTG raises to $0.12, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls. (questionable? I liked my implied odds with button and UTG being healthy stacks)Flop: 8 :D 3 :D T :club: ($0.48, 4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $0.24, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.78, UTG calls.Turn: 5 :D ($2.04, 2 players)Hero bets $1.54, UTG is most aggro at the table, but has slowed down when called. I have only shown down 2 hands, flopped set and quads. Taken a few preflop with re-raises with junk (but they don't know that) are my flop and turn bets OK?

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Preflop is fine.Your flop raise needs to be bigger. The pot is $1.50 and he only needs to call $0.54, which he can easily call with a very wide range. Pop it to about $1 on the flop and go from there. You want to maximise fold equity.By contrast, I think your turn bet is too large. $1.7 would be fine there.with 8 nut outs and 3 potential overcard outs, I like playing this aggressively. If it was 97 I would probably play slightly more passively.

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why are u raising the flop? are u trying to steal it?makes no sense here, you re-open the betting and risk having him 3 bet. You also force yourself to make a lead out bet on the turn regardless of outcome.This line of raising with a draw works better when you have position, or when you draw is big enough that you're going to 4 bet if he raises.

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Preflop is fine.Your flop raise needs to be bigger. The pot is $1.50 and he only needs to call $0.54, which he can easily call with a very wide range. Pop it to about $1 on the flop and go from there. You want to maximise fold equity.By contrast, I think your turn bet is too large. $1.7 would be fine there.with 8 nut outs and 3 potential overcard outs, I like playing this aggressively. If it was 97 I would probably play slightly more passively.
He bet less than that?But pretty much, I agree with Simo here.
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why are u raising the flop? are u trying to steal it?makes no sense here, you re-open the betting and risk having him 3 bet. You also force yourself to make a lead out bet on the turn regardless of outcome.This line of raising with a draw works better when you have position, or when you draw is big enough that you're going to 4 bet if he raises.
We have 11 outs against a lot of hands like AT/KT, and his flop bet is a little weak.He could have AK here, he could have 99 and fold, he could have A8.We have a lot of fold equity if we make a reasonable raise on the flop.
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I read it as $1.94.I am totally blind it seems.
No, this was my fault simo. I deleted the original amount when editing the post so I guessed and when I re-checked the hh I saw I was way off.So is the $1.54 a bit light?And to royal_tour; Should I just c/c that flop and say, "only one obvious draw there fella, and I'm after it!" By c/r here and following through on the turn I can take it, or give myself the chance to catch a free river with many (likely) live outs.
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I don't think this is much related to a free card play. Your raise is the same amount we could expect him to bet on the turn, so we're not getting to the river cheaper. Plus you bet the turn. So I think what we have here is a semibluff.

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I don't think this is much related to a free card play. Your raise is the same amount we could expect him to bet on the turn, so we're not getting to the river cheaper. Plus you bet the turn. So I think what we have here is a semibluff from position.Since he "slows down when called", I think I prefer to flat the flop and delay the bluff for the turn if he checks.
We are OOP.
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No, this was my fault simo. I deleted the original amount when editing the post so I guessed and when I re-checked the hh I saw I was way off.So is the $1.54 a bit light?And to royal_tour; Should I just c/c that flop and say, "only one obvious draw there fella, and I'm after it!" By c/r here and following through on the turn I can take it, or give myself the chance to catch a free river with many (likely) live outs.
well if you think you opponent is so good he puts u on 1 exact hand when you c/c.. then ur screwed anyways.A c/c can be a draw, could be a pair wanting to get to showdown cheap, could be a slowplayed set of sorts. I only commented on your line, personally I would c/c the flop and c/r the turn.I dont like c/r the flop because if/when he calls we force ourselves to bet the turn.its also not "free"river. youre paying for it by betting the turnBy check raising the turn, we show strength, (f not more) and still have the ability to take it down, if we get called, we still have all our outs. IMO a turn check/raise followed by a river bet looks more intimidating than a flop c/r followed by 2 standard bets. Unless you give up on the river??? If not, how much are you going to bet on the river when you brick?and will it be enough to push out a hand that called you down up to this point?
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We are OOP.
That'd be another reason this isn't like a free card play.
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well if you think you opponent is so good he puts u on 1 exact hand when you c/c.. then ur screwed anyways.A c/c can be a draw, could be a pair wanting to get to showdown cheap, could be a slowplayed set of sorts. I only commented on your line, personally I would c/c the flop and c/r the turn.I dont like c/r the flop because if/when he calls we force ourselves to bet the turn.its also not "free"river. youre paying for it by betting the turnBy check raising the turn, we show strength, (f not more) and still have the ability to take it down, if we get called, we still have all our outs. IMO a turn check/raise followed by a river bet looks more intimidating than a flop c/r followed by 2 standard bets. Unless you give up on the river???
This is where I agree that I've made my mistake. If I get called again and miss the river, do I have to give up? Or have I forced myself to bet anything with my turn bet?
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