king_tanner 84 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't know but they announce the judge's names during the main, so it is not like they are hiding them Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Hey, Bendo lived by the sword and now he died by the sword. His biggest offense were pesky little kicks to the thighs. That's it. Cerrone could've let his hands go a little more. Neither guy ventured into the pocket too much. Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Yeah he could have done more but the fact of the matter is that Bendo should have won the fight and all three judges had him losing. All the "you can't put it in the hands of the judges" stuff is stupid. If a guy wins the fight he shouldn't lose. No competent mma judge would have given that fight to Cerrone. This shit is corrupt and anyone who watched that full card and saw the mistakes in multiple fights can't tell me otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Corrupt? No Incompetent? More likely I dont believe people are paying off judges to decide fights Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 How is it not corrupt when everyone watching saw it a certain way, and all of the judges saw it differently? All three of those guys watched and said Cerrone won. All 3 judges had that Pendred guy winning, a couple 30-27 when he didn't win one round. I'm sorry but that is corruption I didn't say anyone paid the judges but they judged fights with obvious winners and gave it to the wrong person. I'm not going to sit here and say that all 3 judges were just incompetent I can't believe the media and DW aren't making a huge deal out of this, all DW can say at the press conference is "don't put it in the hands of the judges." **** off Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 IIRC, wasn't it a guy getting his bluff-shove called with 10 high what set off the realization that a certain poker network was corrupt? What we have here is very, very strange. Spencer won that fight. Period. Not 'maybe' or 'it was a close one'. He won. What bothers me is that three people saw what we all saw and ALL THREE of them agreed that the guy who lost the fight had really won. This is not CJ Ross ruling a draw in Mayweather/Alvarez. This is three people getting it completely incorrect. Its just so astonishing that it does make you wonder. Either the judges were all South Boston homers and voted the Irish guy against the black guy, or something is crooked. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Corruption comes from money, profit and power How does that factor in in these cases? Who is profiting? Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 i like Ron but I'm about to blow up so I'm going to just step away from this convo Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 i like Ron but I'm about to blow up so I'm going to just step away from this convo You cant have a civil conversation about corruption vs incompetence? Maybe an in arena, up close viewing, without Rogan in your ear is different than we know Just thoughts. I'm not married to the position. Just floating possibilities Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 When all you are saying is that you don't believe money is involved, when you don't have any idea about that, it makes it a one sided conversation. I've said all I needed to say so going back and forth with it is pointless The overwhelming facts are that they made wrong decisions and Joe Rogan has nothing to do with that. Did you even watch the fights we are talking about or just blowing smoke up my ass? Did you see the Tibau/Parke fight and Pendred fght? Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I watched the entire main card. I was focusing on the Cerrone fight And calm down guy I said follow the money. Who gains from a Pendrad victory, besides him, and why would 3 random judges care? Thats all I'm asking Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 He's irish and the whole arena was going nuts over the Irish people. Watch the full card Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I said follow the money. Who gains from a Pendrad victory, besides him, and why would 3 random judges care? Thats all I'm asking Sporting events are fixed with betting in mind. If you can influence the outcome of a particular event, you can make as much money as you can raise to put down on it, barring freak/unexpected events. To put it another way; while its possible that Mike Tyson just coincidentally lost to the 42-1 underdog, others suspect something different. Someday, that story will be told. Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Caveat: Whether or not this fight was actually fixed or not, who knows, but someone just called an all in shove with 10 high in an online poker room. Link to post Share on other sites
mrfritz 885 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 wonder if the mob plays a part in this Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't think it was a money thing although there is no way to tell. It seemed obvious to me that it was local Boston judges wanting to make the Boston fans happy. It happened in 2 fights with Irish fighters and in the Cerrone fight where Cerrone was a clear fan favorite. To me that still counts as corruption even without money involved Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Cro Cop? Seriously? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 wonder if the mob plays a part in this Google stuff like 'FBI Point Shaving' for an example of past and present cases. Anyone who thinks a multi-billion dollar industry that is wagering goes without occasional black hat influence is naive as a small child. Individual sports are MUCH easier to influence since you only have to get to one guy. Boxing was notorious for it. Lets put it this way. You're a middle card fighter, you make 16K to show, 16K to win, maybe you get a fight bonus or two a year. You get three fights, you win two and lets say you bag a bonus. That's 100K+. Minus training expenses, trainer/management cuts, you might drop below $100K, but its a heckuva living for a guy who would otherwise be roofing. Now, say your next fight, coming off a loss, is against a ream bum. Some promotional newcomer who never panned out, 0-2 thusfar, you're a -450 favorite. You can buy him for +375. You can buy him by submission for +1100. You can buy him in the 3rd round for +1600. Suddenly, you have the potential to notch a half million (or more) payday on this one fight by pulling guard in the 3rd and 'accidentally' giving up your back, tapping, oops, got caught. Will get 'em the next time. Meanwhile, cousins, brothers and wives are cashing out stubs in LV, collecting booked action from the locals, for a shitton...; Middle card fighter 'retires' from the right game at 32-35 with a paid off house, maybe a coiuple cars and a hundred grand in the bank if he plays it smart. He retires a millionaire if he plays it smart and dirty. Now with judging, that's a different kettle of fish. That is probably something mobb'ish, since that would require a fairly creepy degree of influence to get to three people, simultaneously, like that, unless they've been in the bag all along. I know how it works. I've seen The Departed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrfritz 885 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 betcha this happens more often than we'd like to think. I'm old enough to remember that tyson/douglas fight and just unreal it seemed that he could lose. Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Cro Cop? Seriously? Looks like Frank Mir has his next fight after he loses to Bigfoot Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 My guess is for some reason somebody doesn't like Josh Barnett. He hasn't fought in over a year for some bizarre reason. This smells like a troll job... Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 "Never banned out". One of those most ****ing annoying, random typos that creates the impression you're retarded. Link to post Share on other sites
mrfritz 885 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 i knew what you meant scroomy. fs1 had one of those behind the fighter things for ufc on fox 14. i really dig gus and hendo, tho i don't think there's a fighter i actively dislike. Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 There were two fucuking. huge. bets placed on Rumble when the line opened. Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 What's huge? I understand a shitload of money gets placed right before the event, but what's it take to get a line moved (as I'm assuming you're talking about) right after it opens? Also, Rumble has looked amazing at LHW, so is there any chance a rich guy or two just wanted to get him at whatever he opened at? Link to post Share on other sites
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