FileError404 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I watched Mike "Full Tilt" Matusow (MrPokeJoke) take down a 1000 FPP satellite on Pokerstars... not long before the series began, his name was removed form the winners list...I guess the tilters don't want to admit that PS is the best tourney and satellite site... :)What will PS do if Mikey wins???The marketing wars are on!!! Link to post Share on other sites
fopkins 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I guess the tilters don't want to admit that PS is the best tourney and satellite site...True.. but I think the cash games are lacking at best...Party ring games > PS ring games.. -fop Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Maybe PS removed his name because he's not wearing their logo. Too bad for him he didn't qualify through FullTilt. They offered a $10M bonus to anyone who wins the main event that qualified on their site. Link to post Share on other sites
fopkins 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 They offered a $10M bonus to anyone who wins the main event that qualified on their site.I never really understood the point of them doing that..Can someone explain it to me from their point of view?-fop Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I think it's just a way to get people playing in their WSOP qualifiers. The house makes a good amount of juice from satellites, and it's highly unlikely they'll have to pay out the $10M. Even if they do, FullTilt will become famous as home of the WSOP champ. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo Beam 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Plus-If someone from Full Tilt won it would be worth much more than 10 Million in advertising for the site... Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 The 10 Million is insured for less than a million...plus whoever wins it will be their advertising slave for 10 years...lolIt's a great marketing investment, either way. Link to post Share on other sites
SuM827 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 The full tilt $10 mil bonus shouldn't be allowed by the WSOP. If a full tilt player was heads up at the end of this year's tourney he could pay his opponent 5 mil to lose, and they'd both make out well. Actually I'm not sure why anyone would care (maybe ESPN), but it's an interesting scenario. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 The full tilt $10 mil bonus shouldn't be allowed by the WSOP. If a full tilt player was heads up at the end of this year's tourney he could pay his opponent 5 mil to lose, and they'd both make out well. Actually I'm not sure why anyone would care (maybe ESPN), but it's an interesting scenario.That's what I was planning to do if I qualified through FullTilt made it to the final table of the WSOP. I don't think it would be a problem. People make deals in tournies all the time. Link to post Share on other sites
SuM827 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 The full tilt $10 mil bonus shouldn't be allowed by the WSOP. If a full tilt player was heads up at the end of this year's tourney he could pay his opponent 5 mil to lose, and they'd both make out well. Actually I'm not sure why anyone would care (maybe ESPN), but it's an interesting scenario.That's what I was planning to do if I qualified through FullTilt made it to the final table of the WSOP. I don't think it would be a problem. People make deals in tournies all the time. Counting chickens? Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Counting chickens?Leave me my dreams. They're all I have! Link to post Share on other sites
PhishForChips 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I was under the impression Mike gained entry into the main event through a Full tilt roll. So...maybe he is still eligible for that 10 mill? Link to post Share on other sites
karr2242 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I was under the impression Mike gained entry into the main event through a Full tilt roll. Â So...maybe he is still eligible for that 10 mill?Nope...Got in through PS Link to post Share on other sites
Cousin Merle 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I think players have to sign something now that says they won't make a deal.I know this is at least true for the WPT. Link to post Share on other sites
Darkritual 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 He seems a little full of himself Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Reed 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I love Pokerstars as well, but lately I've been very frustrated at the lack of ring limit games. It's common to only have a handful going and people stacked 5 deep waiting. Link to post Share on other sites
Jresch1973 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 He seems a little full of himselfMike is a loud mouth jerk who thinks he is soooooo tough. How in the hell can you root for a guy like that? I feel terrible that DN had such a rough go in WSOP that guy deserves everthing he wins. A true gentleman, did you see how he took the spotlight of himself and congratulated Humberto for being such a great player? CLASS that sums it up in a word. God help us if the "mouth" wins this thing. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 He seems a little full of himselfMike is a loud mouth jerk who thinks he is soooooo tough. How in the hell can you root for a guy like that? I feel terrible that DN had such a rough go in WSOP that guy deserves everthing he wins. A true gentleman, did you see how he took the spotlight of himself and congratulated Humberto for being such a great player? CLASS that sums it up in a word. God help us if the "mouth" wins this thing.funny that Mike is still a friend of DN's even though he is a "loud mouth jerk" :roll: Link to post Share on other sites
bdams19 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Mike is a great player, I like him. Not to mention he provides great entertainment value. Link to post Share on other sites
yeffy 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Mike probably cashed the entry from Stars since he is an employee of FullTilt and playing for them. He has been wearing FTP gear and may have even been put into the event by them.As far as the 10 mil. deal it is basically an endorsement contract. You get 1mil for 10 years and are required to attend events, do commercials, play on the site, and are not allowed to endorse any other poker site's. Stars still pays both Raymer and Moneymaker so it is essentially the same deal FTP just advertised it better to appear to be a real bonus. Link to post Share on other sites
21gambit 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Wheres this Jerk stuff coming from? I think hes just goofy, seems like a good guy to me who just has some issues.I hope Matusow or Ivey takes it down, Raymer wouldnt be so bad either. Link to post Share on other sites
PotDragon 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 They offered a $10M bonus to anyone who wins the main event that qualified on their site.I never really understood the point of them doing that..Can someone explain it to me from their point of view?-fopFirst off...in any big promotion be it "throw a strike" or " kick a field goal" or whatever...the company takes out insurance against someone winning. That way they pay the insurance premium onlySecond...how do you play in one of their tournys to qualify? You make a deposit ! Draw more players...have more action...action draws more players...rinse and repeat.Third...with PS sending back to back winners FT needed to cut into their market share.Fourth...I am sure that if anyone won they would be required to sign an agreement giving FT the rights to their image and to use them in any ad they want. God knows PS is won't stop running the ad with Moneymaker. :roll: I could keep going...but I am on my way to the Reno Hilton For the morning tourny...and I hope you get the idea.Have a nice day ! Link to post Share on other sites
garamond10pt 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Actually, if you read the terms of the FullTilt $10m offer, they give you $1m each year, but you have to play 10 hours a week on the site. Essentially, they're making you a FullTilt pro and the $10m isn't a bonus, but a salary. Link to post Share on other sites
Hand_Cracker 0 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Actually, if you read the terms of the FullTilt $10m offer, they give you $1m each year, but you have to play 10 hours a week on the site. Essentially, they're making you a FullTilt pro and the $10m isn't a bonus, but a salary.sounds like a sweet deal to mei wouldnt mind someone staking me a mil a year and not expecting a percentage of my winnings. Link to post Share on other sites
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