dfmaicher 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Poker and card playing have been around for a very long time. Over the years the attraction and availability have changed. When Las Vegas and Atlantic City were established, there were nay sayers who didn't believe such places could exist. The government kept a close eye on the institutions. While crime and mob ran the cities for a period of time, eventaully big money won out. Just as with a lot of things in this country, where someone can make a lot of money, they eventually find a way to do so. People who think internet gambling, and card playing have peaked, there really is no basis for this. History has shown that poker stands the test of time just like a lot of other things. Eventually the government will realize they must capitalize of this issues rather than smoothering it. That is what is happening. You can't pass up a billion dollar industry because you can't properly regulate. It is sad because other countries around the world look at the united states and laugh because we look foolish on such issues. Poker isn't going anywhere. Look how long prohibition lasted. Eventaully people fight for what is right and what they believe in. Next time you feel so concerned about the issues, make sure you think about who you vote for. The people in office are the individuals we elect to be the brightess and best. They should have ideas capable of solving the issues rather than worrying how long they can stay in office. Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Poker and card playing have been around for a very long time. Over the years the attraction and availability have changed. When Las Vegas and Atlantic City were established, there were nay sayers who didn't believe such places could exist. The government kept a close eye on the institutions. While crime and mob ran the cities for a period of time, eventaully big money won out. Just as with a lot of things in this country, where someone can make a lot of money, they eventually find a way to do so. People who think internet gambling, and card playing have peaked, there really is no basis for this. History has shown that poker stands the test of time just like a lot of other things. Eventually the government will realize they must capitalize of this issues rather than smoothering it. That is what is happening. You can't pass up a billion dollar industry because you can't properly regulate. It is sad because other countries around the world look at the united states and laugh because we look foolish on such issues. Poker isn't going anywhere. Look how long prohibition lasted. Eventaully people fight for what is right and what they believe in. Next time you feel so concerned about the issues, make sure you think about who you vote for. The people in office are the individuals we elect to be the brightess and best. They should have ideas capable of solving the issues rather than worrying how long they can stay in office. Please...use it Link to post Share on other sites
Oneeydjaq 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 The problem with poker is that it isn't found in abundance in a Middle Eastern nation run by totalitarian dictators ( ok Partypoker is bad, but not that bad), it wont make a car/plane/train/moped go, and it hasn't been the family business for the administration for half a century. If it were, I bet the US would be on the first ship over to get their hands on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Dhall901 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Poker isn't going anywhere. Look how long prohibition lasted. Eventaully people fight for what is right and what they believe in. And by george, I'm gonna fight for my right to get f0cked up and play some cards!!! Because that is the right thing to do, damnit. Link to post Share on other sites
KappaKid83 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Ok so there is honestly at least 3 of these a day now, and as "fun" as they are to read, we all get it. Everyone who is a player is saying pretty much the same thing right now, and you are no different from them. I understand that it is a public forum to discuss poker, but I do not think its a place to be able to soap box. I dont, and I dont feel the need to, why do you???JEFF Link to post Share on other sites
dfmaicher 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 The problem with poker is that it isn't found in abundance in a Middle Eastern nation run by totalitarian dictators ( ok Partypoker is bad, but not that bad), it wont make a car/plane/train/moped go, and it hasn't been the family business for the administration for half a century. If it were, I bet the US would be on the first ship over to get their hands on it.Awesome Link to post Share on other sites
Oneeydjaq 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Ok so there is honestly at least 3 of these a day now, and as "fun" as they are to read, we all get it. Everyone who is a player is saying pretty much the same thing right now, and you are no different from them. I understand that it is a public forum to discuss poker, but I do not think its a place to be able to soap box. I dont, and I dont feel the need to, why do you???JEFF*Helps Jeff down off his soapbox.* Link to post Share on other sites
dfmaicher 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 Ok so there is honestly at least 3 of these a day now, and as "fun" as they are to read, we all get it. Everyone who is a player is saying pretty much the same thing right now, and you are no different from them. I understand that it is a public forum to discuss poker, but I do not think its a place to be able to soap box. I dont, and I dont feel the need to, why do you???JEFFEat me Link to post Share on other sites
KappaKid83 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 *Helps Jeff down off his soapbox.*Ok Ok, maybe I did preach a lil there, but it just gets annoying seeing someone news opinion thats the same as everyone elses. Meh well.JEFF Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 While crime and mob ran the cities for a period of time for a period of time , eventaully big money won out. That's my favorite part... Link to post Share on other sites
UncleHoot 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Part of the problem is trying to make an argument FOR something that is generally considered detrimental. It's like arguing to make sure that pornography, and public drunkenness is legal. "As a drunk, I wish to oppose legislation concerning..." How can you make a decent argument? About the only thing you can do is bring up the issue of personal freedoms. It would be an interesting exercise to read-up on the issues that led to the end of Prohibition.Personally, I think there is a difference between playing poker and other types of gambling, especially when considering poker tournaments. I can't honestly lump-in poker with blackjack, roulette, video-poker*, slot machines, etc. And for that reason, I don't really believe that poker is "Gambling", at least not in comparison. With any competition, there are elements of chance. Poker has more chance than, say, bicycle racing, but it has less than blackjack, roulette, etc., which are almost completely random chance.*Yes, it's technically poker, but I'm referring to "people playing against people" rather than "people playing against the house". Link to post Share on other sites
cemo76 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 "Ask not what Poker can do for you, but what you can do for POKER"Move to Canada....Who hoooooooooooooooooooooooo Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 The argument breaks down when you point out the fact that those advocating widespread and easy-access gambling are generally those without the addiction. The core group here just want the fish to keep swimming. Poker is profitable because of someone who has a major problem and is in $50,000 of debt.I don't have any moral qualms with it, because it's like any other industry sans the middle man.Do you think Ford feels bad that some sucker files for bankruptcy because they purchased a new Shelby that was way out of their price range?Do you think banks feel bad that they offer deceptive mortgage products en-masse, offering things like 1% rates, all the while the debt inflates for their customers?Do you think McDonald's feels bad that some morbidly obese dude eats their 5 times a week because they can't help themselves?All industries can be shown to exploit human flaws. It's just that poker doesn't have any middlemen or deceptive marketing to cover up the exploitation. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 While crime and mob ran the cities for a period of time for a period of time , eventaully big money won out. That's my favorite part...The mob was pretty effectively driven out of the casinos. They were forced to take up the prostitution business which is now poised to overtake the casinos in terms of Vegas money makers. But they are pretty much out of the casinos.As long as the "what would Jesus do" crowd is more vocal and active in politics than the "personal freedoms" crowd we're going to have increasing attempts to legislate morality. Hence: gay marriage, stem cell research, abortion, illegal drugs, illegal gambling, etc.Since so many on this forum are high school/college aged you can make the difference by enouraging your friends to get off their asses and vote for people who will best represent their interests. Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Poker and card playing have been around for a very long time.Astute assessment, Britannica. Link to post Share on other sites
mx957 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 The people in office are the individuals we elect to be the brightess and best. They should have ideas capable of solving the issues rather than worrying how long they can stay in office.Not sure who your talking about here. Politics don't make you bright or the best, they just make you a good gladhander. Corporations are run by the brightest and the best. Let's look at current/past presidents: Bush, Clinton, Bush, Regan, Cater, Ford, Nixon....non of them were the "Brightest" or the "Best" they just had the charisma that people identified with. If you really think Washington D.C. is filled with more than just people trying to stay in office, you've got some very rose colored glasses on. Link to post Share on other sites
SPADES21 0 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 It would be an interesting exercise to read-up on the issues that led to the end of Prohibition.Prohibition was brought to an end due to the increase of crime caused by all of the bootleggers and moonshiners. The mafia was very strong during this period and they were also very violent. It was not ended because midle america wanted to drink freely. The government want to put the mob out of business so they ended prohibition. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Ok so there is honestly at least 3 of these a day now, and as "fun" as they are to read, we all get it. Everyone who is a player is saying pretty much the same thing right now, and you are no different from them. I understand that it is a public forum to discuss poker, but I do not think its a place to be able to soap box. I dont, and I dont feel the need to, why do you???JEFFI don't feel the need to post my name and the end of every post in all capital letters, but I don't give you crap about it. Well, usually, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
ricker 0 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Please...use itWell done...Astute assessment, Britannica.For some reason, this was one of those random comments that made me burst out laughing....well done sir.... Link to post Share on other sites
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