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Being from Detroit the talk of the town each week on sports radio has revolved around the Lions possibly going 0-16.No team has ever performed this monumental task of sucking all 16 games and with the exception of this week, I think it is a lock they do the impossible. Does this officially make them the worst team in NHL history? Is it bad for the league if they do indeed lay a goose egg this season?The issue locally is that if you live here you don't want them to go 0-16 as it will be a bad mark on Detroit. Really? A bad mark on a city that already is covered in bad marks? I don't think the record of the football team puts Detroit over the edge. Another issue is that real fans don't root for 0-16. Well that is good, I hate the Lions and have for years, so no issue there. Many fans though claim they want a 0-16 season so that the Fords will be embarrassed and get off their ass and blow this team up. Some "experts" say that firing Millen after 6 games was the blowing up of the team and that we need to support the team because they will be a playoff team in 3 years once we get a new GM, new coaching staff, and all the 1st round picks we have next year. But we have fired GM's many times in the past and we go through coaches like I go through payday candy bars but this team still never competes year after year. What's the national consensus on this team and if you were a fan or lived here what are your opinions on your team going 0-16?

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They got rid of the biggest problem in Millen, now they just need to go about undoing all the fucked up shit he did. They have what should turn out to be a franchise level WR in CJ, and a few other okay pieces to build on. I'd expect that in two years you won't recognize most the players there.

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They got rid of the biggest problem in Millen, now they just need to go about undoing all the fucked up shit he did. They have what should turn out to be a franchise level WR in CJ, and a few other okay pieces to build on. I'd expect that in two years you won't recognize most the players there.
That was what we expected right before they hired Millen....trouble wasn't all Millen, the trouble is still the Ford family. The NFL has offered to help them find a new GM who will turn this ship around and they told the NFL to mind their own business. If Reese or that other guy...damn forgot his name.Maranelli was in meetings with CJ this past week on an exit plan allegedly. What other pieces do you think they have to build on? CJ if they can keep him here and Kevin Smith. No one else on this team right now starts anywhere else in this league. Sims has gotten progressively worse year after year. This is a common topic on the radio and the most they ever come up with is Calvin, Kevin, maybe Ernie, and that Avril kid. Everything else is either untalented crap, untalented veterans, or players brought in over the years by Maranelli from Tampa Bay's practice squad.
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So far they're taking the right steps, hopefully they can make that trade with Dallas worth it by picking up some solid rookies. But to answer your question, I do not think the Lions going 0-16 will make them the worst NHL team ever.

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What's the national consensus on this team and if you were a fan or lived here what are your opinions on your team going 0-16?
There's not much difference between zero wins and one win, but as a Miami fan I was pretty relieved they got at least one last year. A 1-15 team can at least fade into history with the other shitty one-win teams over the years. I wouldn't wish the distinction of 0-16 on any fans. Ever since the days of Barry Sanders, I always sort of felt bad for Lions fans that they couldn't ever put it together.
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lolI want to see them go 0-16 because I think this organization deserves it. It's sp easy to see how little the organization cares about the fans and more importantly, winning, when you see the other 3 teams and what their owners and GM's do day in and day out. It has to be embarrassing if they ever get together. We have arguably the best GM in the NHL right now in Kenny Holland. Before the cap came into effect you could say that thanks to Illitch's deep pockets he could buy stanley cups but now that the cap has cut the Wings salary in half and he still fields Cup winners and again, cup contenders, it just has to make Ford and Millen, when he was here, feel small.Illitch also owns the Tigers. Sure they faltered and it didn't work last year but he clearly is TRYING to field a contender. Mistakes happen and I as a fan can accept that but I cannot accept what the Lions have done the last decade. Ford has said it himself, Millen did as well, the fans don't matter, they like what they have and they make money so STFU. And that is true in the NFL, a team does not need to fill the stands to make money, they make their money elsewhere. This weeks Lions game is blacked out as there are 8K tickets left and this will be the 4th blackout this year. Some say I am a fan since I clearly show frustration. I guess my answer to that is I listen to sports radio all day every day and 70% of it revolves around the Lions. This is a football town. What gets my motor running is the idiocy of the people who still support this team, still buy tickets. They raised the ticket prices this year. I don't know how I could justify spending more for a worse package on top of all the financial problems going on in this area. That is what makes me mad. I also don't agree with the well they are taking steps in the right direction with the firing of Millen. The Fords are still at the helm...they have yet to get it right, there is a stronger chance of them hiring Howie Long (this has been discussed, Ford loves him) rather than someone like a Chip Reese. Ford is just as culpable as Millen was in this situation.
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True but I am leaning more towards worst franchise, not worst team in one specific year. Tampa has won a super bowl.
Flip a coin between the Lions and Bengals.I heard Bob Glauber talking on the radio about the Bengals and how they are so cheap that all the players only get issued one pair of workout shorts, one towel, etc. for the whole season, that's just how they operate. I'm not sure the Lions are like that, but if so they are right up there.
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Flip a coin between the Lions and Bengals.I heard Bob Glauber talking on the radio about the Bengals and how they are so cheap that all the players only get issued one pair of workout shorts, one towel, etc. for the whole season, that's just how they operate. I'm not sure the Lions are like that, but if so they are right up there.
fuck mike brown imo. at least you guys have Kevin Smith! too bad he's a RidgeRat =/. at least someone else besides me in this thread will know wtf i'm talking about
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I'm a lions and ravens fan, so I've suffered on one hand and been pleasantly suprised on the other. However, watching the tgiving game may have been the single worst experience of my life. And I've done some wierd sick shit.

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I'm a lions and ravens fan, so I've suffered on one hand and been pleasantly suprised on the other. However, watching the tgiving game may have been the single worst experience of my life. And I've done some wierd sick shit.
Out of curiosity, what makes you a Ravens fan in Iowa?
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lol, the Vikings almost lost to the Lions today. As a Vikings fan, I would have died of embarassment if we had lost.

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LOL. I do.
Obviously!! lol. Man I went to the Killian/Northwestern game last night and NW has some studs on OL/DL. One of their DL already committed to UM and he's like 6'2 290 and only a JR. Killian's RB who committed to UM is going to be really good I think. He's got such good vision and I love how he runs the ball.
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Out of curiosity, what makes you a Ravens fan in Iowa?
I was a big Jamal Lewis fan in college, just liked his running style, and when the Ravens drafted him I thought it was the perfect fit for that offense at the time, especially with the defense.I also like Ed Reed (obv.) and Ray Lewis. I was at a point about 6-8 years ago where I didn't have "a favorite team" so to speak, so I just kind of adopted the Lions in the NFC and Ravens in the AFC based off of the players I liked.Big game Sunday for Baltimore. After giving Pitt. the last one they need to win this one, especially with some tough games down the stretch, don't want to finish 9-7. 10-6 may not even make the playoffs with NE, NYJ and MIA all 8-5 and relatively easy schedules.
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They don't only suck this season...they have sucked forever.Even when they had possibly the greatest RB in NFL history...they sucked.Imagine if he had the O-line of the late 1980's Dallas Cowboys.

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They don't only suck this season...they have sucked forever.Even when they had possibly the greatest RB in NFL history...they sucked.Imagine if he had the O-line of the late 1980's Dallas Cowboys.
TrueTrueOh no, not that discussion again...Edit: This week should be HI-larious. At least it will be in TV so I can laugh on a nice Sunday afternoon.Not only are they playing the Colts (and jeez, Colts get Cinci and then the Lions right after, must be nice to slump and then get these two teams back to back) but they have no QB.Dante is out with a shoulder injuryOrlovsky is back at practice but still having trouble with his recently broken hand.Stanton just cleared after his concussionHenson sucks ballsI see a 50+ points scored this week in Indy.
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They don't only suck this season...they have sucked forever.Even when they had possibly the greatest RB in NFL history...they sucked.Imagine if he had the O-line of the late 1980's Dallas Cowboys.
True, but not a lot of people remember they made an NFC conference championship game in the Barry era...(where they were destroyed by like 40 points)
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