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the villain in the hand is a very good regular, and won about a grand off me 2 days ago at heads up 5 10 NL. i feel his range is pretty narrow here. what do people like here?Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $5/$106 playersConverterSB: $2,643.60BB: $1,542.00UTG: $2,429.70MP: $1,047.00CO: $200.00Hero (BTN): $1,465.00Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with :club::DUTG raises to $35, 2 folds, Hero raises to $120, 2 folds, UTG calls.Flop: :D :D :D ($255, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $225, UTG raises all-in $2309.7, hero...........

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If villain is as tight as you say he is I fold.You're beating QQ right now, and Ax of hearts. (Although you'll have to dodge a lot of outs if he has the nut flush draw.)You're crushed by AA or JJ.Let it go. Find a better spot.

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What is your image? If we fold this frequently because villian is a regular we're probably heading down a path of weak/tight because these are the kind of flops we hope for when we 3 bet KK.I don't think he has JJ because I think he would cold call or reraise a normal amount usually. This is AA sometimes but can easily be QQ or something like AQhh. I think your image and villian's image is very important here. He is playing this a lot like bad players normally play a flush draw. I think based on how much is in the pot a call is profitable in the long run unless villian is nittish.

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I call this. I think we're almost always ahead in this situation.I think we're really only behind when he has AA here.

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Wow this is as tough as it gets. So the only question you have to ask yourself is... how sure are you that he has QQ? Also, how sure are you that he'd make this move with QQ, seeing as the only thing he beats is AK, AQ, AJ? I sure as hell wouldn't be sure enough to call this bet. I fold and cry a little.

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Unless of course he puts you on AA or KK.... which brings up the next question. Your image. Could he put you on KK/AA here pretty easily?If so, I'd say fold. If there is the slight possibility that he thinks u cant get away from aces or kings. ur screwed. which is why he is pushing. If he holds AA/JJ he has nothing to worry about if he puts you on AA/KK/QQIf he has QQ, he's probably check/calling check/calling. check/folding to a A or K that hits.

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I call this. I think we're almost always ahead in this situation.
This is NL 6 max. His range doesn't have to be AA-QQ here. Your raise preflop is also rather large, so he might put you on a hand like AK. You also potted a relatively harmless flop, which kind of backs up that you might not want action.His range needs to include AA-QQ (I don't think anyone plays JJ like this) as well as hands like AQhh and even some other suited hearts since you're both pretty deep, he'd have the right implied odds to call preflop.Folding here is really weak unless you have a super strong read here. You have the Kh, so he can't have AKhh, but he easily has AQhh, QQ or the other KK.If he's got AA and make this huge massive crazy overbet, good for him. He's gonna show up with a heart draw or QQ or something else enough to make calling here profitable.
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i am still learning pokertracker, but the stats are 24.3/14.1/1.4. also, when i say hes a good player, at 5 10 NL shorthanded, that does not mean he is nittish. it means the exact opposite. From my experiences in the last week playing 5 10 NL compared to 2 4 NL that i used to play, i would say 5 10 NL is a lot more laggish and 3 betting from good regulars.My image is very loose by the way, and i am positive he views me as very loose since we played heads up for a while a couple days ago and he witnessed how i play heads up. also, to acid knight, the raise might seem large, but i pressed bet pot preflop. it really is pretty standard for a preflop 3 bet. i fastplayed it on the flop because i wanted him to play back at me, and because i wanted to rep AK. but his CR AI is a huge play. does anyone think people play 44 to 10 10 like this? how often do people have air here?

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This is NL 6 max. His range doesn't have to be AA-QQ here. Your raise preflop is also rather large, so he might put you on a hand like AK. You also potted a relatively harmless flop, which kind of backs up that you might not want action.His range needs to include AA-QQ (I don't think anyone plays JJ like this) as well as hands like AQhh and even some other suited hearts since you're both pretty deep, he'd have the right implied odds to call preflop.Folding here is really weak unless you have a super strong read here. You have the Kh, so he can't have AKhh, but he easily has AQhh, QQ or the other KK.If he's got AA and make this huge massive crazy overbet, good for him. He's gonna show up with a heart draw or QQ or something else enough to make calling here profitable.
Would you shovel QQ if u were villain?
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how often do people have air here?
i dunno much about 5-10NL. i really cant see it playing the same way as 1/2 or 2/4so with that in mind, would 48BB's (480) be worth stealing with air vs you?i wouldnt think so, but thats why i'm grinding :club:
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Royal - If I'm the villain and I think the Hero will call with worse than QQ and that he doesn't show up with AA or KK here that often, yeah, I'll push QQ and let him try and make a hero call. It wouldn't be my default move, but people do stupid things with overpairs.Roberts - This is rarely ever air. I have seen people make this move with 88-TT plenty of times. I think it's a flush draw WAY more often than it is a middle pair. I think you gotta instacall this, and live with results, especially if you have any kind of laggy image.

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Royal - If I'm the villain and I think the Hero will call with worse than QQ and that he doesn't show up with AA or KK here that often, yeah, I'll push QQ and let him try and make a hero call. It wouldn't be my default move, but people do stupid things with overpairs.
Maybe he saw that hand where Roberts called a huge all in with, like, 99 after being re-raised preflop and bet into on the flop and turn on an A-high board? :)He's value-pushing with 88 expecting a call from AK. :club:
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i am still learning pokertracker, but the stats are 24.3/14.1/1.4. also, when i say hes a good player, at 5 10 NL shorthanded, that does not mean he is nittish. it means the exact opposite. From my experiences in the last week playing 5 10 NL compared to 2 4 NL that i used to play, i would say 5 10 NL is a lot more laggish and 3 betting from good regulars.My image is very loose by the way, and i am positive he views me as very loose since we played heads up for a while a couple days ago and he witnessed how i play heads up. also, to acid knight, the raise might seem large, but i pressed bet pot preflop. it really is pretty standard for a preflop 3 bet. i fastplayed it on the flop because i wanted him to play back at me, and because i wanted to rep AK. but his CR AI is a huge play. does anyone think people play 44 to 10 10 like this? how often do people have air here?
I think you basically answered your own question here. He isn't a nit, you are LAG, and obviously your 3 bet range is probably kind of large. Also, 1.4 AF is kinda nittish actually. Most aggressive players run at at least 2-3 for this stat.You got what he wanted, he fastplayed it back at you, now just call. For some reason it sounds like you didn't get the result you wanted but calling is +EV in the long run here.
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Wow this is a very tough hand. I don't play this high but I'm guessing this is QQ or a flush draw wayyyyyyyyyyyy more than JJ, AA, or a 3. I definitely think I have to call here.

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the villain in the hand is a very good regular, and won about a grand off me 2 days ago at heads up 5 10 NL. i feel his range is pretty narrow here. what do people like here?Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $5/$106 playersConverterSB: $2,643.60BB: $1,542.00UTG: $2,429.70MP: $1,047.00CO: $200.00Hero (BTN): $1,465.00Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with :club::DUTG raises to $35, 2 folds, Hero raises to $120, 2 folds, UTG calls.Flop: :D :D :D ($255, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $225, UTG raises all-in $2309.7, hero...........
AJ does this when he thinks he's up against AK. Otherwise, I'm totally puzzled.
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He played this like AA. So I fold. However, maybe QQ plays it the same, but most people are cautious when getting 3bet with QQ.

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i talked with roberts and naismith on aim and we really thought calling here is the right play a very high % of the time.he plays to lag to 'afford' folding this monster...i also agree, if someone said it before, that AA 4bets here pf probably.- Jordan

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Ohhh I was under the impression that Villain was TAG/Nitty. If both your images are LAG, this isn't an insta-fold like I thought it was. There is a very good chance this is a flush draw or QQ. Still... I dunno how good I'd feel about making this call. I'd call and cry either way... not sure if they'd be tears of joy or of sadness.

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i talked with roberts and naismith on aim and we really thought calling here is the right play a very high % of the time.he plays to lag to 'afford' folding this monster...i also agree, if someone said it before, that AA 4bets here pf probably.- Jordan
why? If i hold AA after getting 3-bet in a HU situation, i might just smooth call. It opens up my range, and hands like AK, QQ start to wonder if i'm capable of playing AQ,JJ, now.
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why? If i hold AA after getting 3-bet in a HU situation, i might just smooth call. It opens up my range, and hands like AK, QQ start to wonder if i'm capable of playing AQ,JJ, now.
If you are heads up against a very loose player when you are both semi deep, wouldn't you 4 bet AA out of position?
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