fatman 1 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 CO is 15.3/8.1/209Button is 16.9/5.1/236Thoughts on how I played this on the flop and what is the best play on the turn.Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $62.70CO: $27.60Button: $50.90SB: $20Hero: $51.25Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 5 3 UTG folds, CO raises to $1.75, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.Flop: 2 4 J ($5.5, 3 players)Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets $3.5, Hero calls, CO raises to $7, Button folds, Hero calls.Turn: Q ($23, 2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero ?. Link to post Share on other sites
NEtwowilldo 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 3.3 to 1 on your money, and your about a 5 to 1 dog, even worse since he probably has an ace, which is one of your outs. So you're not getting the right price, and you're not deep at all, so you have no implied odds if you river your gin card. I would fold. Also I think if you lead for $2 on the flop, you can try and get yourself a cheap turn, while preventing yourself from getting sandwiched like you did. I think you played this hand a little too passively IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Villains seem somewhat tight pre-flop. However, that doesn't tell the whole story. How do they play post-flop? What's your image? If they're weak-tight post-flop, we're usually playing this hand in order to look for a spot to take it away post-flop. If they get over-attached to their good pre-flop hands, we're playing it for the implied odds.If they're the first type, I lead the flop for $3. If they're the second type, I play the flop as you did. On the turn, villain's not deep enough for us to call. Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I like leading the flop here since it could have missed a lot of hands that are raising preflop. It should also give you an idea how much the villains like their hand.As played, CO bet most of his stack on the turn. So you have no fold equity and no implied odds, I fold here. I think if you are considering calling the turn you should have just shoved over his check/raise on the flop to see how much he likes his pair. How often will we get TP or an overpair to fold here? Link to post Share on other sites
tripdeuces 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I would fold Preflop given the PT stats you gave. As played lead flop since it doesn't hit a lot of hands and you'll see how big each of their hands are. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I think In your situation, I check raise the flop after the 1.50granted C/O might re-raise, but In this situation, I like juicing up the pot and controlling the hand.as played before c/o re-raises, I' re-raise, then lead the turn, button is weak here, very easy to tell, but i'm curious to know what C/O would have done if we raised buttons flop bet.My guess is C/O has K,J and just smooth calls Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJoe 0 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 damn, i thought there were 2 diamonds on flop, i was so confused as to why nobody told you to push on the flop yet. since there's not, fold the turn.flop im unsure about, your position is bad, with the original raiser still left to act again after the initial bet, if CO is usually one to continuation bet or c/r flops alot after raising pf, i'd fold, if he check/folds or check/calls alot after raising preflop, i call. Link to post Share on other sites
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