3 Barrel Gem Or Spew?

[cwik 0]

Villain is 22/15/1.75, semi passive from short observation. I have been playing fairly LAG, but haven't been at the table longFull Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $2/$44 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $529.30Button: $726.35SB: $737.35Hero: $364Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 2 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero calls.Flop: :D ($24, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB calls.Turn: ($56, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $34, SB calls.River: ($124, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $83, SB raises to $166, Hero raises all-in $302Well represented bluff or unnecessary spew?

[krup24 0]

i would actually consider your reraise a fourth barrel. but after he raises i give up after the third your probably not gonna get a fold for $136 into a $600 pot. villian almost always shows up with a K here.

[No_Neck 0]

I don't see this as being anything other than a spew, he is pretty tight passive, but you admit you haven't been at the table very long... river check raises are usually a very strong hand, especially from a passive player. Also you don't have enough money after he raises to get him to fold any sort of hand.

[mtdesmoines 3]

Well represented bluff or unnecessary spew?

I hate it when I get caught representing the villain's actual hand.

[KramitDaToad 0]

spew (spy)v. spewed, spew·ing, spews v.tr.1. To send or force out in or as if in a stream; eject forcefully or in large amounts: a volcano that spewed molten lava; spewed invective at his opponent.2. To vomit or otherwise cast out through the mouth.3. OP

[Temporary Nuts 1]

When was the last time you saw a river check-raise that laid down?No less on a flush flop that turned and rivered for a board 2 pair.No less it was a frogging minraise representing uber strength.If he folded... i'll die laughing.But 9-7s is the nuts, I can't blame ya.

[711Buddha 0]

Spew.

[mtdesmoines 3]

If he folded... i'll die laughing.

[KramitDaToad 0]

If he folded...

You do realise that this is where it's heading

[mtdesmoines 3]

You do realise that this is where it's heading

We all know. But over the long term this move is: spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew win spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew win

[Temporary Nuts 1]

We all know. But over the long term this move is: spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew win spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew spew win

I didn't realize there were two ways to spell spew

[rdtedm 0]

spew (spy)v. spewed, spew·ing, spews v.tr.1. To send or force out in or as if in a stream; eject forcefully or in large amounts: a volcano that spewed molten lava; spewed invective at his opponent.2. To vomit or otherwise cast out through the mouth.3. OP

[NoBBiR 0]

I pretty much decided before I came into this topic that I was going to say it was a spew. Then, after I read it, I realized that I am psychic.The guy is never folding getting 4:1 on this river, like, ever. I guess he did though or you probably wouldn't of posted it.

[shinzilla 0]

I don't want to sound like a dick, but this is one of the worst bluffs I've ever seen, considering you yourself defined villain as semi-passive. A c/r on the river from these opponents signifies great strength.

[Acid_Knight 2]

First, the villain has 7 7 and this is an amazing value bet.Second, isn't this what we've been talking about on IM cwik? I'm losing money becuase 3 barrels rarely work. You really are firing 4 barrels here and I'm not sure what you are putting the villain on. He raised preflop. He called the flop. He called the turn. He check/raises the river. Your betting the whole way looked like top pair (or a flopped flush) from start to finish. You get to river where top pair is the nuts and a flush is wothless, and he c/rs you? Check-minraise. Pretty gross. Really the ony hand that this ever works against is a missed NFD that decided to c/r the river. You already pegged him as passive and I'm pretty sure that as a general rule, passive villains do not c/r bluff the river. If he had a flush that he was slowplaying, he's not raising the river.It is a sick move from the standpoint that your river line can never (did I just say that?) be a bluff. I think the thing is though, you really gotta get to 10/20 NL or higher before people really see that they're getting like 12-1 and will fold knowing that you can never (I did it again) be bluffing there. Most people still won't fold there, but the really good players will.I dunno, this looks pretty spewy, but I have a feeling that he folded or called you with something he shouldn't have (like a flush or QQ or something) and that's why this got posted here.FWIW, against some aggro people, I might play AK just like he did here.

[davezz5 0]

Brave, but I cant see that as a winning play.

[Willing 2 Die 0]

This is really spewy and can't be +EV in the long run.

[HAAALLLOOO 0]

Looks like spew, too much danger going on in that pot over there. I dont think after raising you on the river you have a chance in that pot.

[TraptSteve 0]

The second worst thing about this (aside from basically donating $$$ to the villain) is that since he obv called your river bet.... you ended up forced to show that hand.FAIL Plays like this rarely work against live opponents whom you've had many hands with.I dunno, maybe you got lucky this time and were right... but like the other comments there really is nothing to base this raise off of....

[Acid_Knight 2]

Umm, getting called and having to show that hand is awesome.

[CobaltBlue 662]

I don't think that OP is Hero. (Call it a hunch.)

[Influcted 0]

He already has $ 250 in a $ 500 pot, why would he not call the extra $ 100? Spew.

[mtdesmoines 3]

He already has $ 250 in a $ 500 pot, why would he not call the extra $ 100? Spew.

Anybody who doesn't like that sig is gay.

[Temporary Nuts 1]

Anybody who doesn't like that sig is gay.

I can't get any work done I just keep watching the bounce n slide... his sig is gonna get me fired

[No_Neck 0]

his sig is gonna get me fired

Amen brother... almost happened this morning when my boss walked by.