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Okay, as a fairly open atheist liberal...it goes without saying that I dislike Ann Coulter with the passion of many burning suns. But, I just refuse to acknowledge her existence anymore. She doesn't say anything remotely intelligent, no matter what she would have you believe.She's great at working people up in a frenzy, which I guess can sell you a ton of books and make her very rich. But, her broad, largely false, generalizations of liberalism, Democrats, or anybody left of Hitler is laughable at best. Compare our lefty-crazies to Coulter all you want...but we don't have anyone nearly as psychotic and blantantly inflammatory on our side of things.
What about the professor who called the Twin Towers workers "Little Eichmans"?
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What about the professor who called the Twin Towers workers "Little Eichmans"?
What's his name? Did you know it without having to google it?Ann Coulter is ubiquitous, and EVERYBODY knows her. You can't just pick random professors from Colorado and say, "See? You guys have people JUST LIKE Ann Coulter, even though this was an isolated incident from someone liberals have definitely NOT embraced."Wang
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What's his name? Did you know it without having to google it?Ann Coulter is ubiquitous, and EVERYBODY knows her. You can't just pick random professors from Colorado and say, "See? You guys have people JUST LIKE Ann Coulter, even though this was an isolated incident from someone liberals have definitely NOT embraced."Wang
But that's what they do best!
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But that's what they do best!
No that's what disingenuous assclowns do when they know they're fighting an unnecessarry battle there's no excuse to want to win. Happens on both sides of the aisle (just seems like archconservatives are so much better at it... probably because liberals are bad politicians, on account of their souls).Wang
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What's his name? Did you know it without having to google it?Ann Coulter is ubiquitous, and EVERYBODY knows her. You can't just pick random professors from Colorado and say, "See? You guys have people JUST LIKE Ann Coulter, even though this was an isolated incident from someone liberals have definitely NOT embraced."Wang
His name is Ward Churchill, and the incident was a really, really big deal when it happened not too long ago. I'm surprised no one can recall this.There are crazies on both sides. Coulter is a crazy; she's not mainstream.
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What's his name? Did you know it without having to google it?Ann Coulter is ubiquitous, and EVERYBODY knows her. You can't just pick random professors from Colorado and say, "See? You guys have people JUST LIKE Ann Coulter, even though this was an isolated incident from someone liberals have definitely NOT embraced."Wang
Because the liberal media does everything possible to trot out conservative wind bags but never liberal ones. Or if they do interview liberal windbags like MM they just lob softball after softball.It takes conservative bloggers like Drudge to bring the "Ward Churchills" of the world out because the liberal media hides them under the carpet.
No that's what disingenuous assclowns do when they know they're fighting an unnecessarry battle there's no excuse to want to win. Happens on both sides of the aisle (just seems like archconservatives are so much better at it... probably because liberals are bad politicians, on account of they are morons)Wang
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His name is Ward Churchill, and the incident was a really, really big deal when it happened not too long ago. I'm surprised no one can recall this.There are crazies on both sides. Coulter is a crazy; she's not mainstream.
Coulter might not be crazy, but she has a FOLLOWING. She's a very real (or WAS a very real) conservative personality, supported (at least paid lip service) by OTHER major conservatives in the media. Comparing her to Ward Churchill is disingenuous. He doesn't go on television shows, write pop-culture books, and serious liberals didn't know who he was before he said the outrageous shit he said. I, for one, was quick to shrug him off as a dumbass.The analogy doesn't hold up, man.
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Way to discredit yourself from further intellectual debate.
why because I acted like you guys?
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Because the liberal media does everything possible to trot out conservative wind bags but never liberal ones. Or if they do interview liberal windbags like MM they just lob softball after softball.It takes conservative bloggers like Drudge to bring the "Ward Churchills" of the world out because the liberal media hides them under the carpet.
Haha, my favorite!When in doubt, trot out that whole Liberal Media thing. Read what you said. I'll paraphrase the first part. "The only reason right-wing nutbags like Ann Coulter are on TV is because the the media is so liberal." ... uh, yeah. I get it.Oh, and then, when someone tries to engage you in at least a QUASIreasonable debate, you do the stereotypically moronic thing by calling people who don't agree with you.... morons. You're calling Democrots morons because you're a moron. I'm calling you a moron because you're a moron. See? See how it's okay when I do it? But when you do it it's pretty silly?Take a class on discourseWang
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why because I acted like you guys?
We gave an accurate description of a single, inflammatory, filth peddling nutcase... you labeled an entire group of people "morons". I'd sound ignorant if I labeled everyone on the right wing using such simpleton vocabulary. Regardless, there are many, many, many liberals who are way smarter than you.OT EDIT: On a sidenote.... BARACK OBAMA should be our next president.
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Coulter might not be crazy, but she has a FOLLOWING. She's a very real (or WAS a very real) conservative personality, supported (at least paid lip service) by OTHER major conservatives in the media. Comparing her to Ward Churchill is disingenuous. He doesn't go on television shows, write pop-culture books, and serious liberals didn't know who he was before he said the outrageous shit he said. I, for one, was quick to shrug him off as a dumbass.The analogy doesn't hold up, man.
I didn't say they were exactly alike. It wasn't an SAT analogy question.
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I didn't say they were exactly alike. It wasn't an SAT analogy question.
Would you have been happier if I'd used the word "comparison?" Fine. The "comparison" doesn't work. It's a poor "comparison."Better?"I didn't say they were exactly alike." And I'm saying, "yeah, because they weren't similar. At all. They were nothing alike."Feel free to respond again, without being pickyWang
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And doesn't like it at all. I don't think he's a commie, but I do think he would support a big socialist-swing. I mean heck, I understand communism really well, doesn't mean I'm not a capitalist.
Well said... EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT YOU AGREE WITH ME... BIG SOCIALIST SWING = COMMUNISM... just wait until his new movie sicko talks about how everyone is owed healthcare and free money for doing nothing. LISTEN FOLKS, POOR PEOPLE WOULD EASILY BE TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH CHARITIES AND DIRECT GIVING IF ALL THESE RICH PRICKS SAYING THAT THE GOVERNMENT OWES EVERYONE EVERYTHING WOULD ACTUALLY DIG INTO THEIR OWN POCKETS AND NOT MINE. Do people making less than 30k/ year pay taxes? no. Could they receive basically unlimited financial support though charities and churches? yes. [/rant]
Obv I was alluding to the fact that he's a multi-millionaire due to capitalism.
LOL... which is exactly why he's a HUGE hyprocrite. (no pun about his enormous size intended)
Okay, as a fairly open atheist liberal...it goes without saying that I dislike Ann Coulter with the passion of many burning suns. But, I just refuse to acknowledge her existence anymore. She doesn't say anything remotely intelligent, no matter what she would have you believe.She's great at working people up in a frenzy, which I guess can sell you a ton of books and make her very rich. But, her broad, largely false, generalizations of liberalism, Democrats, or anybody left of Hitler is laughable at best. Compare our lefty-crazies to Coulter all you want...but we don't have anyone nearly as psychotic and blantantly inflammatory on our side of things.
wrong.Noam Chomsky, America Hater/SocialistMichael Moore, America Hater/SocialistRage Against the Machine, we can't forget hateful music. (Even though it rocks)Ralph Nader, SocialistAl Gore, Inventor of the InternetThese people believe this...Anarcho-syndicalism is a branch of anarchism which focuses on the labor movement, Syndicalisme is a French word meaning "trade unionism" hence the "syndicalism" qualification. Anarcho-syndicalists view labor unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the State with a new society democratically self-managed by workers. Anarcho-syndicalists seek to abolish the wage system and private ownership of the means of production, which leads to class divisions.ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS?!?!
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Because the liberal media does everything possible to trot out conservative wind bags but never liberal ones. Or if they do interview liberal windbags like MM they just lob softball after softball.It takes conservative bloggers like Drudge to bring the "Ward Churchills" of the world out because the liberal media hides them under the carpet.
God, this is truly priceless. If the mainstream media in this country were ANYWHERE CLOSE to being liberally biased, none of us would even know who Ann Coulter is. Let's take a moment to find out where this devil woman came from, shall we? Ann Coulter was hired to be a pundit on the new cable news station, MSNBC, in 1996. Still just a right-wing congressional aide, she had been hired without even a hint of journalistic experience but with a mouth so vicious she made her fellow leggy blond pundit, Laura Ingraham, look and sound like Mary Tyler Moore in comparison. Coulter was eventually fired when she attacked a disabled Vietnam veteran on the air, screaming, "People like you caused us to lose that war." But this was just one of many incidents where she had leaped over the bounds of good taste into the kind of talk that is usually reserved for bleachers or bar fights. In her columns, published in one of the most extreme of all conservative publications, Human Events, she regularly referred to the president of the United States, Bill Clinton, as a "pervert, liar, and a felon" and "a flim-flam artist." She termed the first lady to be "pond scum" and "white trash and the late Pamela Harriman a "whore." Coulter said these things all the while appearing on air in dresses so revealing they put one in mind of Sharon Stone in the film Basic Instinct. The greater Coulter's fame, the more malevolent grew her hysteria. In her 1998 book, High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Case Against Bill Clinton, she wrote, "In this recurring nightmare of a presidency, we have a national debate about whether he 'did it,' even though all sentient people know he did. Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate." Such was the wisdom of the alleged "constitutional scholar" whose work George Will quoted on ABC's This Week. (Will is not very particular about his sources. I counted exactly one work of history in Coulter's copious footnotes. Coulter has also been accused of plagiarism by a former colleague, but denies the charge.) Shortly after 9/11, Coulter became famous again when she suggested, in a column published by National Review Online, after seeing anti-American demonstrators in Arab nations, that we "invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." Coulter's column was dropped by the magazine, but not because the editors objected to its content. Editor Jonah Goldberg explained, "We ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty." (Coulter had called the editors "girly boys.") Coulter remained unbowed. At a meeting of the National Political Action Conference, speaking of the young American who converted to militant Islam and fought for the Taliban, Coulter advised, "We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors." She also joked about the proposed murder of the U.S. secretary of transportation, Norm Mineta. In her second book-length primal scream, published in the summer of 2002, Coulter compared Katie Couric of the Today show to Eva Braun. (She would later add Joseph Goebbels after Couric challenged her in an interview.) She termed Christie Todd Whitman, the former governor of New Jersey and then head of the Environmental Protection Agency, a "dimwit" and a "birdbrain." Sen. Jim Jeffords is a "half-wit." Gloria Steinem is a "termagent" and "deeply ridiculous figure," who "had to sleep" with a rich liberal to fund Ms. magazine. But the errors are even more egregious than the insults, and her footnotes are, in many significant cases, a sham. The good folks at the American Prospect's Web log "Tapped" went to the trouble of compiling Coulter's errors chapter by chapter. The sheer weight of these, coupled with their audacity, demonstrates the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of a journalistic culture that allows her near a microphone, much less a printing press. Coulter's view of the U.S. media can be summed up as follows: "American journalists commit mass murder without facing the ultimate penalty, I think they are retarded." In the New York Observer, published in one of the two cities attacked on 9/11, Coulter joked about how wonderful it would have been if Timothy McVeigh had blown up the New York Times building and murdered all of its inhabitants. Apparently nothing—not even the evocation, serious or not, of the mass murder of journalists—could turn Coulter's love affair with the SCLM sour. For such comments, she is celebrated and rewarded. While promoting Slander, Coulter was booked on Today, Crossfire (as both a guest and guest host), Hardball, The Big Story with John Gibson, and countless other cable and radio programs. She was lovingly profiled in Newsday, the New York Observer, and the New York Times Sunday Styles page, while also enjoying a seat at the White House Correspondents Association Dinner as a guest of the Boston Globe. She was even invited on ABC's Good Morning America as an election analyst in November 2002. In the Wall Street Journal—a newspaper that had actually been destroyed by terrorists, and whose reporter, Daniel Pearl, had been murdered by them—Melik Kaylan defended her comments in Coulter-like fashion. He argued, "We have been programmed to think that such impassioned outrage, and outrageousness, are permissible only on the left from counter-culture comedians or exponents of identity politics." He also compared Coulter's alleged "humor" to that of Lenny Bruce, Angela Davis, and the Black Panthers. Too bad, therefore, as Charles Pierce pointed out, the conservative media darling has yet to be "arrested and jailed for what she said (Lenny Bruce), prosecuted in federal court (Angela Davis), or shot to ribbons in her bed (the Black Panthers)."
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Haha, my favorite!When in doubt, trot out that whole Liberal Media thing. Read what you said. I'll paraphrase the first part. "The only reason right-wing nutbags like Ann Coulter are on TV is because the the media is so liberal." ... uh, yeah. I get it.Oh, and then, when someone tries to engage you in at least a QUASIreasonable debate, you do the stereotypically moronic thing by calling people who don't agree with you.... morons. You're calling Democrots morons because you're a moron. I'm calling you a moron because you're a moron. See? See how it's okay when I do it? But when you do it it's pretty silly?Take a class on discourseWang
yes you are such an expert on discourse!
I also think I hate SamHard8 a lot.
No that's what disingenuous assclowns do when they know they're fighting an unnecessarry battle there's no excuse to want to win. Happens on both sides of the aisle (just seems like archconservatives are so much better at it... probably because liberals are bad politicians, on account of their souls).Wang
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Would you have been happier if I'd used the word "comparison?" Fine. The "comparison" doesn't work. It's a poor "comparison."Better?"I didn't say they were exactly alike." And I'm saying, "yeah, because they weren't similar. At all. They were nothing alike."Feel free to respond again, without being pickyWang
Well, who's really being picky here? I think BOTH Ward Churchill and Ann Coulter are in the same group, given the parameters I set: a political crazy. Is Coulter more visible day-to-day? Yep. So, do we have anything to argue about?
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yes you are such an expert on discourse!
The "I hate Sam Hard Eight" a lot comment was Coulter-esque, an attempt to draw you into an entertaining discussion. Anyone who knows me (you likely do not, which is fair), would have picked up on the particular phrasing "I think I hate" as an indication of an attitude of harmless childish mischief, and not actual hate. Plus, I'm a moron.The "moron" thing was supposed to be ironical.Wang
Well, who's really being picky here? I think BOTH Ward Churchill and Ann Coulter are in the same group, given the parameters I set: a political crazy. Is Coulter more visible day-to-day? Yep. So, do we have anything to argue about?
No, if you're willing to admit Ward C-hill's not a good example of a "crazy liberal, in the mold of an Ann Coulter."Yes, otherwise.Cheers and good wishes,Wang
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The "I hate Sam Hard Eight" a lot comment was Coulter-esque, an attempt to draw you into an entertaining discussion. Anyone who knows me (you likely do not, which is fair), would have picked up on the particular phrasing "I think I hate" as an indication of an attitude of harmless childish mischief, and not actual hate. Plus, I'm a moron.The "moron" thing was supposed to be ironical.WangNo, if you're willing to admit Ward C-hill's not a good example of a "crazy liberal, in the mold of an Ann Coulter."Yes, otherwise.Cheers and good wishes,Wang
I think Coulter broke the mold.
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The "I hate Sam Hard Eight" a lot comment was Coulter-esque, an attempt to draw you into an entertaining discussion. Anyone who knows me (you likely do not, which is fair), would have picked up on the particular phrasing "I think I hate" as an indication of an attitude of harmless childish mischief, and not actual hate. Plus, I'm a moron.The "moron" thing was supposed to be ironical.Wang
Wait you can use "moron" in a ironical way but I can't? You can act mischievously and I can't? I used the word "moron" it in the standard "FCP FYP" light hearted manor and you and Crack went nuts!Oh and my FYP was after your backhandedly said conservatives are soulless.
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Wait you can use "moron" in a ironical way but I can't? You can act mischievously and I can't? I used the word "moron" it in the standard "FCP FYP" light hearted manor and you and Crack went nuts!Oh and my FYP was after your backhandedly said conservatives are soulless.
No I went nuts after you compared me to Ann Coulter.
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Why? Because I equate her level of pure evilness with that of Hitler? There's a reserved seat at a VIP table in hell for her right next to Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and Beezlebub himself. That self-righteous CCCCCCUNT spews hate like a black mamba spews venom.
This is acting like she does!
Way to discredit yourself from further intellectual debate.
and this is what you posted after my FYP
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Wait you can use "moron" in a ironical way but I can't? You can act mischievously and I can't? I used the word "moron" it in the standard "FCP FYP" light hearted manor and you and Crack went nuts!Oh and my FYP was after your backhandedly said conservatives are soulless.
This is acting like she does!and this is what you posted after my FYP
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This is acting like she does!and this is what you posted after my FYP
So. Fight fire with fire right? She tends to bring out the worst in people, and I consider myself pretty level headed guy but I lose my cool when her name is mentioned. And I reserve the right to act like a 5 year old and curse like a truck driver if it is warranted given the topic in discussion. Just because I had a single uncharacteritic un-Cracklike outburst doesn't put me in the same league (or same sport) as a hate-fueled narcissistic demon woman who represents everything that is horrible and wrong in the world. Whether or not she actually believes what she is selling is irrelevant. I'd almost rather she have the courage of her convictions than run a Kaufan-esque prank at the expense of liberals to make a buck.Allow me to reiterate and enunciate: CCCCCUNNTTTT
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