bdc30 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 No reads or stats really - my first session of $50nl in a long timeFull Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.504 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $94.30Button: $50.35SB: $49.60Hero: $59.85Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with Q Q UTG folds, Button raises to $1.75, SB raises to $5.25, Hero calls, Button folds.Flop: 7 9 J ($12.25, 2 players)SB bets $11.1, Hero calls.Turn: Q ($34.45, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $34.45, Link to post Share on other sites
craiger 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Well I don't think we really have to worry about K-10 or 8-10 from the SB, so....I would bet a bit less on the turn, just in case he has KK or AA (which he likely does, and AK probably folds to a bet anyways), and still thinks his hand is good enough to call $20 to $25. IMO you want to reel him in here, since he's likely drawing to 2 outs, 4 at most (if he has AK and decides to chase), and a pot sized bet might scare him away. ...love the smooth call on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 He's only got ~$33 left. If he's calling $20-25, he'll call $33, no? Link to post Share on other sites
craiger 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Right, sorry...my bad on that one. I didn't look at the stack sizes. If he has about $33, maybe consider either betting about $15 or just doing what you did. Bottom line, you are probably about a 90 to 95% favourite here. Look for a way to get all of his money Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I pretty much like all of it. 4 betting pre is probably fine too, but without a read I'd probably call as well. Link to post Share on other sites
ah2388 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 im 50/50 on calling/4 betting preflopi like the way you played this, but i think i bet a bit less on the turn, and MAYBE even consider checking behind for deception(only if we are convinced hes betting the river)edit: idk if i like the check behind on the turn Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 if you have been aggressive on the button this three bet pre could be a ton of hands (any pp, A anything, even QK, rags). i think i just come over the top on the flop i don't put him on much and if its AA, KK, JJ then cooler time. i like shove on turn as played Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 if you have been aggressive on the button this three bet pre could be a ton of hands (any pp, A anything, even QK, rags). i think i just come over the top on the flop i don't put him on much and if its AA, KK, JJ then cooler time. i like shove on turn as playedWere the BB here, not the button...If we were the button, I think its definitely a 4 bet preflop Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 edit: idk if i like the check behind on the turnChecking the turn is not an option I don't think, any 8,T,K,A or kills us (or our action anyway) on the river. We have to bet something here.... Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Were the BB here, not the button...If we were the button, I think its definitely a 4 bet prefloptks i'm a bit slow in the mornings.i still shove the flop being in BB Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 What value is there in shoving flop? What calls us that we beat (that 3bets pre?) AJ?What better hands are we folding? Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 What value is there in shoving flop? What calls us that we beat (that 3bets pre?) AJ?What better hands are we folding?are you suggesting to just call down all streets if turn is complete blank cause if you are which i'm thinking is the case since you smooth called the flop, then you should just shove the flop at least there is some fold equity with Ax hands and domination of TT or AJ. you need to descide on the flop if you are ahead. if turn if blank your not gonna fold to bet right? Link to post Share on other sites
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