trystero 0 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 pf is loose as I'm oop, but villains have been kinda aggro so I wanted to flop something and try and get it in. maybe a flawed thought process...Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($1.94)Hero (SB) ($2.01)BB ($2.49)UTG ($1.84)Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 , Q , K , Q UTG bets $0.07, Button calls $0.07, Hero calls $0.06, 1 foldFlop: ($0.23) 6 , 5 , 10 (3 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets $0.23, Hero raises to $0.92, Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 ugh! why don't we just call and reevaluate and fold turn when we don't pick up at least a st8 draw. i see no real value in raising Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I don't hate the check raise, but by playing this way you'll end up stacking off a lot with 30-40% equity. You make up for this when the checkraise takes the pot down. I guess it's +EV, but I'm not convinced it's optimal. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 I just hate calling a PSB OOP w/this hand - non-nut draw and a fragile overpair - when I feel I have too much equity against aggro players to c/f Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 I did quick ev calcs w/35% equity and 40% equity, and assuming villain folded 30% of the time (which is kinda optimistic imo), and in both cases the move is slightly -EVlooks like I made a mistake, one of many Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yeah I guess the problem with this play is that when the money goes in you're never a big favorite, and sometimes you're completely crushed (higher overpair with fd). With Aces and a flush draw, the play would make more sense because sometimes you're a dominating favorite and you're never worse than 30-70. It's a tough hand to play out of position - that's why they suggest folding this hand preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
Adam_g 0 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 folding preflop would make this hand much easier for you - once you call - on the flop you remember why you don't take a shot with that hand there :-) and then say - arg why did I do that Link to post Share on other sites
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