BeaverStyle 1 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t18970)MP (t6207)CO (t14454)Button (t28956)SB (t63657)BB (t10635)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A. Hero raises to t3200, MP calls t3200, 2 folds, SB calls t2400, BB calls t1600.Flop: (t10775) J, 9, K(4 players)SB bets t60382 (All-In), BB calls t7360 (All-In), Hero calls t15695 (All-In), MP calls t2932 (All-In).Turn: (t97144) 7(4 players, 4 all-in)River: (t97144) 9(4 players, 4 all-in)Final Pot: t97144Results below: SB has Ks Qs (two pair, kings and nines). BB has Js 9d (full house, nines full of jacks). Hero has Ah Ac (flush, ace high). MP has Kc Qc (two pair, kings and nines). Outcome: SB wins t44687. BB wins t35787. Hero wins t16670. Wow. All i can say is wow. that river ruins lives.I almost folded too, but w/ the overpair and the nut flush draw, gotta play for my stack.What's funny is, had I raised more, perhaps J9 wouldn't have been in the hand, And i would have scooped it.Comments?Flames?Berating insults?throw em at me.BTW, don't interpret this as a bad beat post.DISCUSSION: min-raising UTG w/ AA..... YAY OR NAY? Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 J9 rules my world. I'll bet my balls that it'll win 90% of the time......oh crap i'm a woman now. Link to post Share on other sites
Sefaje 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 lol.loldont do it =/ Link to post Share on other sites
SweetDaddyFreak 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I actually love to limp early with big pairs, especially at an aggresive table. Say you limp with Kings early a player in late position may see it as dead money if he moves all in Limp+Blinds+Antes=Good Play. They can raise or move all in and by then its kinda obvious you either have a big pair or medium pair. If no one raises then you might have to throw them away later on in the hand, its the chance you took Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 It's good to experiment with smaller raises every once in awhile. I mean, hands like this are the danger of making small raises with monsters. You got your money in not so good. Turned the nuts, then still lost. That's not exactly the board I'm looking for either. You can be pretty sure your one pair is no good, but you've got a big draw....i dunno. Playing hands like that can get pretty ugly after the flop and when you have a hand that big it's hard to get away from even when you're beat. Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I actually love to limp early with big pairs, especially at an aggresive table. Say you limp with Kings early a player in late position may see it as dead money if he moves all in Limp+Blinds+Antes=Good Play. They can raise or move all in and by then its kinda obvious you either have a big pair or medium pair. If no one raises then you might have to throw them away later on in the hand, its the chance you tookWhat a horrible move, sure you got him to go all in with j6 and you can happily insta-call and laugh and marvl at your great play until you see JJ4 on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
SweetDaddyFreak 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 What a horrible move, sure you got him to go all in with j6 and you can happily insta-call and laugh and marvl at your great play until you see JJ4 on the flop.I don't play on Pokerstars so I really dont worry Link to post Share on other sites
blacktie31 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 What a horrible move, sure you got him to go all in with j6 and you can happily insta-call and laugh and marvl at your great play until you see JJ4 on the flop.Your right, you should fold AA preflop to an all in betHe might have j4 for gods sake Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 nay, but you already knew this.You're better off going for the limp/re-raise.There are very few situations where min raise is the right play. The only time I can think of it being the right play is when you have an entire table of weak/tight players, and they will all fold to a min raise. It happens. Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Your right, you should fold AA preflop to an all in betHe might have j4 for gods sakeI didn't read what you wrote but that's an awesome down-blouse shot of Jennifer Harman. It makes my penis happy. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 DISCUSSION: min-raising UTG w/ AA..... YAY OR NAY?Never, ever, ever min raise. If you are going to do that go play limit. Link to post Share on other sites
nosoul 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 On the flop, you were 44% to win the hand. Which is still better than any of the other players. The J-9 hand was 40% to win.So, you had a 44% chance of quadrupling your stack. Good play. Do it every chance you get. You got unlucky here, but you made the right play. The goal is to get the other players to commit their entire stacks as underdogs. Which you did. That's all you can ask. Link to post Share on other sites
JesseW316 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Jamie Gold says to limp re-raise big hands UTG and he's our World Champion, so I say limp, you will always bust someone. He did(sw) Link to post Share on other sites
chessazhole 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I didn't read what you wrote but that's an awesome down-blouse shot of Jennifer Harman. It makes my penis happy.Thats pretty sad.... Who goes to a poker forum to look at avators of poker chicks?? Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thats pretty sad.... Who goes to a poker forum to look at avators of poker chicks??More than you think.I'd go to one of 'fckthis's posts that has zero content just to see jessica alba............ mmmmm jessica. Link to post Share on other sites
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