Sheiky 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 This is Simo_8ball's side of a 200 hand HU battle V me on stars, i thought it was pretty interesting and worth posting here so here it is - http://rapidshare.com/users/C6XT7W and PM either me or Simo for the password.I recorded my side but my computer crashed when camtasia was open and the file was lost, feel free to ask what i had on any of the hands.I think Simo's comentary is very good and his thought processes when playing me are pretty spot on most of the time, i don't play HU NL at all and so i make a few bad PF calls and play too tightly from the BB i think but overall i thought i played ok (feel free to disagree).There are 3/4 key hands that i want to post here but i can't find the HHs right now so that'll have to wait, though if you watch the video it's pretty clear which ones they are.Enjoy and feel free to ask me/Mark any questions and/or ask me how to run like god. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I should have 3-bet a little more preflop, and probably should have opened more on the button, but I was pretty happy with my overall play. I think I analysed reads based on board texture and bet sizes pretty well in the video.Oh, and plz to be excusing my northern English drawl/accent. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 cant view video. i dont want to download all that shit.any way of puting it on youtube? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 cant view video. i dont want to download all that shit.any way of puting it on youtube?Putting it on youtube would involve several different parts. 10 minute video is the max, so it would be 7 parts, and I can't be bothered doing that. Not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Putting it on youtube would involve several different parts. 10 minute video is the max, so it would be 7 parts, and I can't be bothered doing that. Not worth it.How big is the file? I can upload it to my server if you want (providing it's not huge).Edit: Just saw it is 108mb, that would be okay. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Oh, and plz to be excusing my northern English drawl/accent.you are excused...I think you need to really tighten up OOP against a spewtard like Shieky Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 you are excused...I think you need to really tighten up OOP against a spewtard like Shieky I am usually a lot tighter in the BB, but I really felt comfortable playing flops with him from OOP for some reason. If he was playing very aggro postflop I would definitely have adjusted. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I am usually a lot tighter in the BB, but I really felt comfortable playing flops with him from OOP for some reason. If he was playing very aggro postflop I would definitely have adjusted.I also gotta say I am not a big fan of your raise with AK but i am a nit :)I think a pair 66,77,88 make up a lot of his range after he rer-aises you. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 you are excused...I think you need to really tighten up OOP against a spewtard like Shieky ? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I also gotta say I am not a big fan of your raise with AK but i am a nit :)I think a pair 66,77,88 make up a lot of his range after he rer-aises you.I really needed more time for that. I didn't buy a set at all. I didn't think he would raise that much with a set. I didn't know what he would raise that much with, but I really didn't think it was strong.With the flow of the match I think it was a bad raise from him. I hadn't been 3-betting much, and I wasn't likely to pay him off with many worse hands (if any).It happened to work because I made a crazy play, but he couldn't have expected it. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I really needed more time for that. I didn't buy a set at all. I didn't think he would raise that much with a set. I didn't know what he would raise that much with, but I really didn't think it was strong.With the flow of the match I think it was a bad raise from him. I hadn't been 3-betting much, and I wasn't likely to pay him off with many worse hands (if any).It happened to work because I made a crazy play, but he couldn't have expected it.i mean i understand what you are saying but there are so many hands that have you beat, and he has shown that he will three bet with K6.How much more did you shovel into the pot on the allin? I can't remember but it seemed like you were only going to get called if you are crushed, I dunno I play kind of nitty heads up.Seemed like a tilty push to me Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 i mean i understand what you are saying but there are so many hands that have you beat, and he has shown that he will three bet with K6.How much more did you shovel into the pot on the allin? I can't remember but it seemed like you were only going to get called if you are crushed, I dunno I play kind of nitty heads up.Seemed like a tilty push to me Oh, I knew I didn't have fold equity. It was $15 on top of his $30 raise. I was value shoving AK high. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Hey, the QT call was good though, don't you think? Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I watched the video, two most interesting hands were the AA vs K6 and the AK vs JT.Some question for SheikyWhat do you think you would have done if you didn't flop two pair and just caught the K? Are you still stacking off with just top pair?What range did you put Simo on when you flopped top pair with JT? Did you expect to get a call/raise from any worse hands? Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Hey, the QT call was good though, don't you think?great call, and I think you played pretty well, but maybe just a little to lose cally against someone so aggressive, but that is like my personal opinion man..... (last part is a lebowski reference for those not in the know) Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I watched the video, two most interesting hands were the AA vs K6 and the AK vs JT.Some question for SheikyWhat do you think you would have done if you didn't flop two pair and just caught the K? Are you still stacking off with just top pair?What range did you put Simo on when you flopped top pair with JT? Did you expect to get a call/raise from any worse hands?AA vs K6 hand:I think he should probably stack off with a naked king there. My raise to $16 is going to be air a very high % of the time. He certainly can't fold to the raise with a king, and if he calls on the turn the pot will be $35ish, with probably $33 effective stacks.AK vs JT hand:I said a little in the video on that, and I really needed at least 30s timebank to think things through. I just couldn't see why he would raise to $30 with any hand other than air or a draw. I stack off with overpairs/top pair, and fold everything else. That's going to happen regardless of what he does, so why would he be trying to force out my weaker hands here? In the end I think it was just another hand like the QT one. I called on the river then because his bet didn't make sense to me, and I called/shoved with AK because his raise didn't make sense to me. It's basically the same read in both cases. Why would he bet that much when I can only call with huge hands? Because he doesn't want a call. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 great call, and I think you played pretty well, but maybe just a little to lose cally against someone so aggressive, but that is like my personal opinion man..... (last part is a lebowski reference for those not in the know)Yeah, this was totally the opposite of how I normally play HU tbh. Normally my style is to play pretty aggro, 3-betting a lot, c/betting a lot and rarely calling OOP.My AF was 1 for the match, and it was because I kept letting him bet my hands for me. I was c/calling a lot of flops where I would normally c/r or c/f.When I have him firing all 3 streets with 9 high and with 5 high, I don't mind being passive. (not that I'm saying his plays were bad, just that I decided to adapt to it by letting him have the lead) Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 ?just joking man but three betting K6 offsuit OOP leads me to.... spewtard Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 just joking man but three betting K6 offsuit OOP leads me to.... spewtardYeah, the hand selection was a little strange, and that was one of his leaks.When he called my 3-bet with A8o, I completely misread that as a slowplayed monster because it was a timebank call followed by a call on a Q77 flop. That just didn't seem right.Then again, he got his money in as a huge favourite twice and with me drawing dead once so what do I know? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Actually, I thought it was pretty funny that I announced on the ace river"there's very very little I beat now other than a complete and utter bluff. I can't call any bet on this river."Then I called anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
MikeBauer26 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Awesome and interesting work!I would be (almost) dying to see an equivalent video of one of you guys playing a full ring game at these stakes. Its probably hard to do because the table will pe pissed with all the time bank stuff. Still... would be very interesting to follow your reasoning at a full ring.Anyway good work. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 just joking man but three betting K6 offsuit OOP leads me to.... spewtardYou should have seen what i 4-bet him with the hand where he comments 'he's got a pretty strong hand here and isn't 4-betting light' Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 You should have seen what i 4-bet him with the hand where he comments 'he's got a pretty strong hand here and isn't 4-betting light' lol Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 My favorite part of the video was simo's sexy voice. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Actually, I thought it was pretty funny that I announced on the ace river"there's very very little I beat now other than a complete and utter bluff. I can't call any bet on this river."Then I called anyway.This was by far my favorite part of the video (other than aforementioned voice). It felt like something I would do. Like I can't explain why I'm going to call and it looks stationy, but I just think I'm right. Link to post Share on other sites
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