CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Bodog 5/10 NLHE (6-handed)UTG $1361Cobalt $1252Button $330Cobalt is MP w/ . I'm playing TAG. I've been playing for a while and UTG seems semi-donkish...though I haven't seen him make this raise pre-flop. No reads on Button.Pre-flop:UTG raises to $25, Cobalt calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 foldsFlop ($90): (3 players)UTG bets $45, Cobalt calls, 1 foldTurn ($180): (2 players)UTG bets $90, Cobalt callsRiver ($360): (2 players)UTG checks, Cobalt bets $150Took kind of an unusual line on this one. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Bodog 5/10 NLHE (6-handed)UTG $1361Cobalt $1252Button $330Cobalt is MP w/ . I'm playing TAG. I've been playing for a while and UTG seems semi-donkish...though I haven't seen him make this raise pre-flop. No reads on Button.Pre-flop:UTG raises to $25, Cobalt calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 foldsFlop ($90): (3 players)UTG bets $45, Cobalt calls, 1 foldTurn ($180): (2 players)UTG bets $90, Cobalt callsRiver ($360): (2 players)UTG checks, Cobalt bets $150Took kind of an unusual line on this one.what sort of hands do you think he will call with on the river after leading the turn? i put him on a draw (I think I do that to much)I think it is fine, but why not raise the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I think preflop should be played differently. If I'm going to flat a raise with QQ preflop without really knowing that the opener has a better hand, I want to KNOW that I will have position. Since you're in MP, I don't like the idea of letting the button or CO in cheaply. I guess if either one of them is squeeze happy, then I really like the play, but if not, then I really think you should reraise preflop.I like the flop play a lot. You might have the best hand on a draw heavy board. By flatting, you limit your exposure to action from the button and additional action from UTG.When the the button folds, I think that the call on the turn is fine as well. He's got a hand that likely can't call a raise or is crushing you.I would bet $200 on the river. Literally every draw missed. I can't see him making a hero call with AK/AQ here, so you are really looking to get value from worse 1 pair hands and I think since it's so easy to put you on a missed draw, you can get more than $150 in value there. Link to post Share on other sites
Metternich 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I 3-bet preflop, but other than that I think this is fine. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I think preflop should be played differently. If I'm going to flat a raise with QQ preflop without really knowing that the opener has a better hand, I want to KNOW that I will have position. Since you're in MP, I don't like the idea of letting the button or CO in cheaply. I guess if either one of them is squeeze happy, then I really like the play, but if not, then I really think you should reraise preflop.i also play preflop differently against a semi-donkish villian. i don't put in an overly strong 3-bet maybe to like $65ish. i definitely agree with letting CO or Button or Blinds for that matter in cheaply. i never want to play this hand 4-5 ways.since you didn't reraise preflop i love the rest. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 doublepostament Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 I think preflop should be played differently. If I'm going to flat a raise with QQ preflop without really knowing that the opener has a better hand, I want to KNOW that I will have position. Since you're in MP, I don't like the idea of letting the button or CO in cheaply. I guess if either one of them is squeeze happy, then I really like the play, but if not, then I really think you should reraise preflop.I'm willing to risk callers behind until I hone my read on UTG. It's obviously standard to 3-bet here...but I want to figure out what UTG's doing first. If it requires me to play a little more carefully and expose myself to losing the hand more often, that's fine. I'll sacrifice some value now for information that may be valuable in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I wouldn't make this play too often pf, but I understand mix up your play a bit... that said, vs an unknown I am more likely to play solid ABC poker rather then mix things up like you did. If you are 100% comfertable with your pf play (as you are defending it), I don't really know what else to say about the hand as the rest looks pretty standard, except maybe you can get a tiny bit more value on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I wouldn't make this play too often pf, but I understand mix up your play a bit... that said, vs an unknown I am more likely to play solid ABC poker rather then mix things up like you did.Yeah, I'm unsure as to why you're not RRing QQ because he's an unknown UTG when QQ is >>>>>>>>>>>> the range of any good player raising UTG in a 6m game. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 good lord i hate your river bet. DO YOU LIKE MONEY? BET MOREEEEEEEEEEE Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 good lord i hate your river bet. DO YOU LIKE MONEY? BET MOREEEEEEEEEEEWell, jackass...he thought forever and finally made Acid's impossible hero call with AK-high. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 good lord i hate your river bet. DO YOU LIKE MONEY? BET MOREEEEEEEEEEE Well, jackass...he thought forever and finally made Acid's impossible hero call with AK-high.lol. owned. I love when someone thinks you missed your fd and call with air. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Well, jackass...he thought forever and finally made Acid's impossible hero call with AK-high.I swear to God, I play 90% of the hands dealt to me, I bluff 70% of the time, and I never get these calls. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 Funnily enough, the exact same scenario came up later in the session. I had a better read on the meaning of the guy's pre-flop raises. I never saw him make this $25 open-raise again...he'd typically open for min-raises or $30-$35. Quite a while later, he opens for $25 in very similar position and I have QQ again. I re-pop him to $85 and he re-raises to $300...which leads me to shove for $1k. He makes the call with AK, and I hold. Link to post Share on other sites
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