100 Nl: Jj Hand #1

[fatman 1]

Villain is 17/13/2/159 hands. The first hand I saw when I sat down he 3-bet someone with QQ. Is this an easy fold?Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: $100CO: $302.35Button: $104.45SB: $22.85BB: $170.20Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with Hero raises to $3.5, CO folds, Button raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero ?

[tskillz187 0]

Blah, he's pretty nitty. I don't know if it's an easy fold though...meh I don't hate set mining as he likely has a big hand and if he doesn't you might just get checks all the way through.

[Willing 2 Die 0]

call and reevaluate after the flop. If he's betting hard on a low board, you prob should let it go.

[Jadaki 0]

He is raising on the button, could just be to get the hand heads up in position with AK/AQs/TT/99 as much as it could be AA-QQ. I don't see how you fold preflop, it's a question of if you want to 3 bet to see where he is really at or not, or just call and see the flop.

[krup24 0]

wow villian seems really aggressive. i'm kinda torn between 3 betting and shoving. i'm not folding against this villian.

[Acid_Knight 2]

I think on general principle alone, since he's not like an ultra-nit or anything, fodling JJ preflop here is giving up way too easily. I think this is QQ or AK. His raise seems large for AA/KK.

[Acid_Knight 2]

wow villian seems really aggressive. i'm kinda torn between 3 betting and shoving. i'm not folding against this villian.

As the # of pots you enter go down, your AF rises for people who are comparably aggressive. Someone who's playing 75% of the hands with an AF of 1 is really aggressive usually and is probably comparable to a 17/13/3 or so. His stats suggest he's playing a pretty TAG game. Shoving here is a disaster.

[whiterice714 0]

i dont mind 4bet folding... but we have to understand this is design specifically to TID NOW & not see the flop... where we're @ a positional disadvantage & likely going to see at least 1 over card hit the board like half the time... bet 3/4 - full pot on flop & shut down UI if we get action... that's if you feel like bloating it..realistically i'd probably flat call & c/c if i get an over pair / set & i donk the turn if i keep the overpair & check raise the set... if i get action w/ the over pair i'm c/c reasonable bet or likely c/f river UI... the set i'd like a RR on the turn plz =], otherwise just value town the river... i agree though, it looks like queens or aceking... who knows, he could have nines/tens, position & a hint of disbelief... take a flop, you'll have more chances to out play / out draw (slim, i know) him even out of position...

[krup24 0]

As the # of pots you enter go down, your AF rises for people who are comparably aggressive. Someone who's playing 75% of the hands with an AF of 1 is really aggressive usually and is probably comparable to a 17/13/3 or so. His stats suggest he's playing a pretty TAG game. Shoving here is a disaster.

yeah i don't know much about pt stats just learning and for some odd reason i thought this was 1/2 on 0.5/1 so i wouldn't typically shove.

[simo_8ball 0]

His raise seems large for AA/KK.

Villain has mashed the "bet pot" button.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Villain has mashed the "bet pot" button.

Nice catch.

[simo_8ball 0]

We don't have odds to setmine, but we do have some postflop value outside of that, even if we are check/folding most flops. I think it's a call preflop.I think our best postflop line is probably to c/c good flops and then either check/fold or bet/fold the turn. Most people won't fire a second bullet with AK/AQ.

[Sheiky 0]

I check call the flop and lead out on the turn.EDIT: This is a different hand than the one you posted in the challenge thread i see, i would fold here, OOP this is too expensive to play when we're behind imo and doesn't get us enough value when we're ahead.

[Zach6668 513]

Anyone advocating a pf fold is way too nitty.4-bet sucks as well because we just fold worse hands.