econ_tim 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 FullTilt $1/$2 5 handed (9 max)Preflop: econ_tim1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, econ_tim completes, BB checks.Flop: (3 SB) [6d 3h 5d]econ_tim checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.Turn: (1.5 BB) [Kc]econ_tim checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.River: (1.5 BB) [9d]econ_tim checks ...This is the kind of crap hand that puts me to sleep.Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough? Link to post Share on other sites
JaysonWeber 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I'd bet the river on the best hand... you probobly aren't beat here. Go ahead and bet it, ace high might call you down and any crap pair that hit the flop might call. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I'm leading out the river as well.And why aren't you playing Empire? Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I'd bet the river on the best hand... you probobly aren't beat here. Go ahead and bet it, ace high might call you down and any crap pair that hit the flop might call.I'm with Weber. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks for the feedback.And I'll start Empire soon. I've just been lazy about transfering funds and downloading PokerTracker Link to post Share on other sites
JaysonWeber 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks for the feedback.And I'll start Empire soon. I've just been lazy about transfering funds and downloading PokerTracker You doing the rakeback? Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks for the feedback.And I'll start Empire soon. I've just been lazy about transfering funds and downloading PokerTracker You doing the rakeback?No. He used me as a referral. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?I check/fold it in a miniscule pot where the 9 completes 46,000 weak tight drawing hands.The pot. She is tiny. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 i don't bet that!third diamond.a lot of players check weak kings on the flop and turn.pot's tiny.you can induce a bluff by check-calling.you can induce a player to bet A-3 UI by check-calling.if you have the best hand, you'll win it at showdown anyway.i check-call this against a loose or aggressive player or bluffer, and check-fold against a non-bluffer or passive player. (i think i check-call without reads, but check-folding is way okay too... tiny pot.)aseem Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 The pot. She is tiny.i should have just saved my typing and took the 30 seconds to read the respones and just quoted you.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?I check/fold it in a miniscule pot where the 9 completes 46,000 weak tight drawing hands.The pot. She is tiny.diamond draw78.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit....id probably check/call one bet Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?I check/fold it in a miniscule pot where the 9 completes 46,000 weak tight drawing hands.The pot. She is tiny.diamond draw78.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit....id probably check/call one bet9-6/9-5/9-3/K-9.slowplayed K-x.slowplayed 10-10/J-J/-Q-Q/A-A.slowplayed 4-2/7-4.slowplayed 6-6/5-5/3-3.slowplayed 6-5/6-3/5-3.you missed his entire point.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Should I value bet the river without reads? Does A-high or low pair call enough?I check/fold it in a miniscule pot where the 9 completes 46,000 weak tight drawing hands.The pot. She is tiny.diamond draw78.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit....id probably check/call one bet9-6/9-5/9-3/K-9.slowplayed K-x.slowplayed 10-10/J-J/-Q-Q/A-A.slowplayed 4-2/7-4.slowplayed 6-6/5-5/3-3.slowplayed 6-5/6-3/5-3.you missed his entire point.aseemeddie shouldn't be allowed to post in strategy, he should have to stick to general/bad beats section Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 diamond draw78.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit....id probably check/call one betPlease stop posting here and hurting the forum. Seriously. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Nice to get lots of discussion on mundane hands like these. Consistently making the wrong move in small pots with marginal hands would be a big leak. Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 If there was anything in this pot, then I'd consider betting on the river but 1.5 BB? Lol Check/fold is fineHell it might get checked around and you still win Link to post Share on other sites
JaysonWeber 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 If there was anything in this pot, then I'd consider betting on the river but 1.5 BB? Â Lol Check/fold is fineHell it might get checked around and you still win I didnt even look at pot size... woops, just check/call it for that stuff... God that pots tiny. Link to post Share on other sites
JaysonWeber 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks for the feedback.And I'll start Empire soon. Â I've just been lazy about transfering funds and downloading PokerTracker You doing the rakeback?No. He used me as a referral.Sucks for him. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Sucks for him.Yeah, I only plan on playing at Empire to clear some bonuses. Maybe rakeback would be worth a little more. I should try and figure out how much rake I pay per hand, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Sucks for him.Yeah, I only plan on playing at Empire to clear some bonuses. Maybe rakeback would be worth a little more. I should try and figure out how much rake I pay per hand, etc.I think by the time you clear the bonus at Party/Empire you will never want to play on another site again. Ever. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 I think by the time you clear the bonus at Party/Empire you will never want to play on another site again. Ever.That's what I hear. I plan on getting rakeback at Party and playing there a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 diamond draw78.....yep look at all those 46000 draws that hit....id probably check/call one betPlease stop posting here and hurting the forum. Seriously.I dont post in Strategy to often....But ill do it more, just to annoy allinbluff and yourself Link to post Share on other sites
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