psujohn 0 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 MP2 gave me crap for making this call but he had exactly what I expected and I'd do it again. Actually I taunted him back with some fishy lines hoping to tilt him.I think I played it ok except maybe for the call on the turn. What does everyone thingParty Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is Button with [9h], [Kh]. 1 fold, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (7 SB) [Qc], [2s], [Jc] (7 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.Turn: (6.50 BB) [Qs] (3 players)MP2 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.River: (9.50 BB) [Jh] (3 players)MP2 bets, CO folds, Hero calls.Final Pot: 11.50 BB Link to post Share on other sites
Frills 0 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 called 2 cold on the flop hell no, fold preflop Link to post Share on other sites
cursive34 0 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 honestly what can you beat...someone playing A2 or a small pocket pair. oh well you come to expect play like this on party. and to say you would do it all again thats sad. im foldin this one preflop. by the way whats your name on party? Link to post Share on other sites
Frills 0 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 honestly what can you beat...someone playing A2 or a small pocket pair. oh well you come to expect play like this on party. and to say you would do it all again thats sad. im foldin this one preflop. by the way whats your name on party?be nice Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 pre-flop fine.flop fold.turn fold.river fold.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 called 2 cold on the flop hell no, fold the flopfyp Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 pre-flop, fine.three-bet the flop. you're doing it for value and for a free card. you're getting good enough odds to call two cold, but cold-calling sucks. three-bet it.if you had three-bet, it might have been checked to you on the turn where you can check to get a free card.given that you didn't, calling the turn is okay.aseemummm, how is getting 5-1 on a gut shot w/overcard, of which the club cards are dirty, getting "good enough" odds to continue. this is some bad advice IMO Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 whoops, thought he was open-ended.my bad.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 whoops, thought he was open-ended.my bad.aseemeven if he was open ended, it'd still be a fold since two of the outs are dirty, and then it'd have to be a cold call, since you'd want to encourage other cold callers to come in behind you, puts extra implied odds on your draw Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 wow, i missed the two clubs on the flop in a seven-way pot.sorry, i'm really out of it.yeah, fold on the flop even if you're open-ended.sheesh.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 Yeah, I'd normally fold the flop except against these two. Both were prone to bluffing at pots. Of course I missed the two clubs on the flop at the time too. Thinking back on it CO was probably on a club draw.As for doing it again I was talking only about the call on the river. The way MP2 was playing I felt pretty strongly that at best he had a small pair which the board contefeited with the Qs and Js and the best kicker would win. Though I should have been out of the pot well before then.Thanks for the feedback. Link to post Share on other sites
Briguy 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 That's insane. Even against two maniacs, you don't beat an A-high bluffer. You might have 5 outs to improve (non-club Ts and Ks) to the best hand, if the K isn't reverse dominated. You are getting 5-1 odds in the pot (assuming MP2 doesn't reraise), and it's a pretty big stretch to say you are getting 9-1 implied odds. Start folding hands like this to two cold on the flop or you will lose lots of money. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Your flop call was atrocious.Your turn call might have been as bad.Your river call was fine.He played this hand like a medium pocket pair, and I make these calls frequently and get mocked for them. But you played the hand SO BAD up to then then you deserve to be castrated, so my children don't have to deal with questions like this in 2035. :)Ice Link to post Share on other sites
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