Big Laydown In My 2-5nl Game

[aucu 3]

Big laydown in my 2-5NL game2-5NL game $200-$1000 buy in at the River Rock last night. Hero: in Cut offUTG+1: $600MP: $2000Both MP1 & MP2 are good observant players.UTG: straddles to $10UTG+1: LimpsMP:LimpsHero: Folds Flop, 2J6 two spadesUTG: checkUTG+1: checkMP: checkTurn: 2J6, 2UTG: CheckUTG+1: bets 15MP: callsUTG: foldsRiver: 2J6, 2, TUTG+1: bets 40MP: raises to 140UTG+1: Thinks for a while and raises to 340MP: can’t believe it and folds 2J face up for a full house.Could this have been the right thing to do?

[Snamuh 0]

I never make that fold. I also would fold preflop. You also didn't indicate the suits of the turn or river. Need a lot more info, but I probably still never fold.

[trystero 0]

Not folding river...don't know suits though, but still not folding my fh there, and if I do I am never showing it.I fold pf - J2o in MP is awful, straddle or notBet flopAs played raise turn

[aucu 3]

I never make that fold. I also would fold preflop. You also didn't indicate the suits of the turn or river. Need a lot more info, but I probably still never fold.

The flush card did not come.Both of theswe guys are semi-pros at least especially the MP who is a very good winning player.The Jonny Chan Tournament was on at this time and the poker room was full and the action was great, the 2-5 game plays big with deep stacks so seeing a lot of flops is OK, saw a couple of 3K pots go down last night.What can you put UTG+1 on?

[Acid_Knight 2]

It could be the right thing to do, but I doubt that you should ever be doing it.This whole problem could be avoided by not limping with J2 (sooooted or not) which is one of 3 hands that I won't complete a SB with in a NL game. If you're gonna play J2, make a full house with it and then fold, I'd advocate not playing poker at all.

[Acid_Knight 2]

What can you put UTG+1 on?

UTG+1 can have 26, T2, A2, 66, TT or JJ, alhtough I'd think that TT and JJ are less likely since it's bad business not to raise with a hand like that in EP in a straddled pot. If we're ever beaten here, I'd say that it's usually be 66 like 75% of the time.

[simo_8ball 0]

MP really should fold preflop. Given that he didn't, he should bet the flop or as played, raise the turn.I'd say UTG+1 has to have either A2 or 66 based on the action. Slight chance of a busted draw or maybe even overplayed JT. I would call the reraise.

[simo_8ball 0]

If you're gonna play J2, make a full house with it and then fold, I'd advocate not playing poker at all.

lol

[Jordan 1]

66 the only hand he can put this guy on to fold here. Nothing else makes sense.- Jordan

[Royal_Tour 0]

66 the only hand he can put this guy on to fold here. Nothing else makes sense.- Jordan

I'm leaning towards A,2look at how it went down. all check the flop.then another deuce on turn. 66 now has a boat. unless the game plays loose here and making a bet is the better play so the pot builds if anyone has anything.But i can see A,2 making the same play.also, to answer the question, @ 2-5, you gotta call the 200 in that situation the pot is 600. like acid said, if ur gonna play J,2 in MP and not invest chips when it makes u a boat, than something is wrong.200 into

[wsox8 10]

I definitely don't fold this.. If he's got us beat then tough but I don't see it.

[No_Neck 0]

I'm leaning towards A,2look at how it went down. all check the flop.then another deuce on turn. 66 now has a boat. unless the game plays loose here and making a bet is the better play so the pot builds if anyone has anything.But i can see A,2 making the same play.also, to answer the question, @ 2-5, you gotta call the 200 in that situation the pot is 600. like acid said, if ur gonna play J,2 in MP and not invest chips when it makes u a boat, than something is wrong.200 into

I don't think A2 raises the river there IMHO (if he does sit next to him all day and all night) but I have been wrong many times before.

[mtdesmoines 3]

Could this have been the right thing to do?

No.

[mtdesmoines 3]

... is one of 3 hands that I won't complete a SB with in a NL game

I'll complete a lot of junk in SB if I've got a limper on my left. But I won't put another penny more in PF and I do get cautious post flop. Also, the way this went down I go broke.

[Royal_Tour 0]

I don't think A2 raises the river there IMHO (if he does sit next to him all day and all night) but I have been wrong many times before.

this is live.and trips with TK. I can easily see A2 making the raise. and Yes i agree, sit next to him. but that doesnt change much, 80% of the people at live 2-5NL shouldnt be there

[aucu 3]

this is live.and trips with TK. I can easily see A2 making the raise. and Yes i agree, sit next to him. but that doesnt change much, 80% of the people at any poker table shouldnt be there

FYPBut thank God it's true

[CobaltBlue 662]

I'd think that TT and JJ are less likely since it's bad business not to raise with a hand like that in EP in a straddled pot.

May be bad business, but I can think of plenty of people that like trying to limp-re-raise in straddled pots.

[docnuclear 0]

I don't see how you can fold here given previous action, lots of worse hands raise here

[aucu 3]

There is no way that I could have made this laydown, It generated a lot of comments at the table. The folder put him on a 66This was the best laydown that I have ever seen UTG+1 had JJA true ninja fold.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Right or wrong based on the results, the fold is still terrible. You're not allowed to play J2o, make a full house using both cards and then fold. It's just not allowed.Thanks for playing though.

[Lavitz 0]

Right or wrong based on the results, the fold is still terrible. You're not allowed to play J2o, make a full house using both cards and then fold. It's just not allowed.Thanks for playing though.

QFT. Why on earth would you play J2o which has no value other then trips or a boat and then fold the boat?

[Zach6668 513]

He was obv playing it for quad value.