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Quiz Question #18


Razz  

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  1. 1. What is the Right Play?

    • Call
      25
    • Raise
      142
    • Fold... don't be an idiot!!!
      6


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OOOOHH!! A question I know.Based on only that info, the answer is raise. 1. Rarely will the King or Queen play, you would have to pair on both following streets. You really need to be looking at what he could be drawing to. 2. Your 75 draw is slightly better than his possible 76 draw, and you KNOW your down cards are ideal for your draw (not knowing what 2s 4s and 6s are dead, if you both catch a baby on 6th that doesn't pair, he has a very slim redraw to beat you. 3. His bet could be a feeler. He's attempting to define his hand to you. From his perspective, he is representing essentially the same thing you have down, and if you have a 10-Q (or even 9 depending on your history), he may suspect you will throw your hand away having caught another big card. A raise redefines to him that if he is definitely not the favorite.The only sticky situation is if you catch a 6 and he catches a baby. It may have made you a solid low, but it either made him a better low or paired him and it's going to cost you a bet or two to find out.Conclusion: Based on no knowledge of other cards dealt (ie. heads up razz final table), you are in the lead and should raise.

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raise put pressure on the other guy, you may get a free crad on 6th. He may be betting on the fact that he has a better low. God ony knows what his whole cards are, chances are you are ahead when 6th comes unless of curse you brick again and he hits pretty. Get agressive b/c you are drawing to the better low.

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callyoure drawing to the best hand no matter whatbut thats excatly it, youre DRAWING to it
You are likely to get three bet here if you raise because you have a king showing even though you have a great draw. I would wait for a decent 6th street card and you will have a perfect spot to raise against an opponent who will often make second best holdings. Wait until you have made that draw before you start raising in this particular case.
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Fast forward to fifth street. Your opponent's board looks like this:(x-x) 7-6-Q Your hand is this:(A-3) 5-7-K Your opponent bets on fifth street, what is the correct play?
Interesting.If you catch a 6 you lose unless he catches a 5 or misses.You need a 2 or 4. He's probably got a 2 or 4 and likely has an ace. He's actually drawing better than you. Seems like a fold.
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That is unbelievably bad logic, and even though i'm pretty sure you were kidding:As you're holding each others out more than likely, the better scenario is to catch cards over the 7. If you catch better on 6th, you are ahead. Likewise, the oppossite is true. As far as odds go, these basically cancel each other out. If you catch the same card, your lead increases.The concept of "he probably has a 2 and / or 4" is ridiculous, because if he does, you are holding 2 of the cards he needs. These also cancel each other out. If he has a 2 4 down, you have equal chances of catching your needed baby.If you catch a 6 and he catches a baby, there's at least a 30% chance that he paired, IF he truly has what he's representing - which he may not as the only knowledge we have is that he bet out on 5th. If you catch a 6 and he catches anything over a 7, he's drawing extremely slim.

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At the risk of looking like an idiot, since I don't play razz at all I'll add my thoughts. I believe this is a raise, looks like an easy raise to me. You are definitely ahead here no matter what cards your opponent holds. The way I'd play razz is to get my money in the pot when I have the best draw, which I believe is the proper way to play. Razz is a drawing game, where you're betting the best draw, not made hands typically. Are you going to regret capping most streets with A234 to start just because you catch 234 on the next streets? I don't think so.(A3)57K is ahead of (A2)76Q, which is your opponent's best case scenario, so you're surely ahead of all his possible holdings, and whether you catch a bad card on 6th and 7th is irrelevant.

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Fast forward to fifth street. Your opponent's board looks like this:(x-x) 7-6-Q Your hand is this:(A-3) 5-7-K Your opponent bets on fifth street, what is the correct play?
You have 55% chance to win the hand, virtually regardless of his hole cards. So you have a soild equity edge on the hand. I would raise and if possible cap on this hand.
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I love playing Razz but I suck at it so my honest answer is that I would just call. My logic (which I am sure it is flawed) is that I do not have a hand yet and the next card could go either way for either player. I think a raise would get called. Here is what is tough for me... how many people were at the table? I mean, if the table is full and the other player is in the hand, his or her 2 hole cards must be low as well. So, I think a call is the best option If this is heads up, then I would raise. There would be no telling what the hole cards are and I know I am on a good draw. Anyway... this is probably all gibberish... I am looking forward to the answer.

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Not really sure why, but I raise. A3 in the hole is solid and you have your opponent slightly beat on the up cards. As people say, the K and Q probably won't come into play.

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  • 1 month later...

One thought is that raising may win the hand immediately, if opponent is bluffing. OTOH, I think call is the proper play, since if he catches better than you on 6th street you'll have to fold.

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One thought is that raising may win the hand immediately, if opponent is bluffing. OTOH, I think call is the proper play, since if he catches better than you on 6th street you'll have to fold.
I like that you answered this a month after the answer and numerous explanations were posted, and still got it wrong.
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This has already been answered, but I didn't look at it.Answer is raise because within the next couple of cards, those two paint cards will probably be inconsequential and not count in the final five card low. Taking out those two paint cards, the odds are very strong that your hand is best at fifth street.

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I would make the raise in this position for a few reasons. 1. Obviously I'm drawing to the better hand on 6th street regardless of what hole cards my opponent holds2. Put pressure on my opponent by raising. I am very likely to get a call from my opponent simply because he/she can't see my A-3. I would like to get money into the pot when I'm clearly going to get called.3. The last thing I want to do is fold on 6th street if I draw a bad card or my opponent draws a good one. By putting more money in the pot, I will be forced to play this hand to 7th even if 6th street is a complete miss.That is my two cents

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Interesting.If you catch a 6 you lose unless he catches a 5 or misses.You need a 2 or 4. He's probably got a 2 or 4 and likely has an ace. He's actually drawing better than you. Seems like a fold.
But the majority of cards are misses for both of you, and if you draw equally on the miss side, you are ahead. Between the 2s and 4s that are left and the misses, it looks like you have more outs, even though he has a couple of extra outs to the nuts.
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