disturbed by daniel's blog today

[majorleag 0]

Okay I have a triple layer flame retardant suit on, as I fully expect about 4,000 degree flames coming my way.I of course like most of you have not met Daniel and would certainly like to at some point. I like his style most of the time and enjoy watching him play on TV.Having said all of that I really was not happy to read his entry today about his amusing antics at the $5.00-$10.00 table beating the hell out of the little guy.I think Daniel needs to reflect back to when he was a new and or less financially secure player and how he would have felt if a very wealthy pro sat down at his $5-10 table and started betting tens of thousands of dollars.I think sitting at that table and playing any cards, or not looking at cards, to show off just because you have so much money that you can lose $100 or $500 or $3,000 and it has no effect on your life and well being, but prevents other players at the table from playing because they can't keep up financially is predatory and is unbecoming of a seasoned pro like Daniel.Yes, I know Poker by its very nature is predatory! However this is clearly a horribly unbalanced situation, and other than to humiliate the little guy, I just don't see how this benefits Daniel, other professionals, The Wynn casino or poker in general. It's not like winning a couple of grand will affect Daniel's life much, but it sure as hell would affect me for example if I had a strong hand but Daniel kept betting $10k and I had to keep folding and ended up losing $2-3k.I can tell you that when I played at the USPC it was a huge honor and thrill to play among some of the best and the brightest poker players in the world, and I was impressed by most of them. There was one pro who I thought was very nasty but most of them were very gracious polite and accommodating.Chris Ferguson was a true gentleman, John Juanda also. Even Mike Matasow was very nice each time I spoke with him. The point is that I came away with a greater respect for these players, however if I had seen or heard that they were sitting down at what by their standards are ridiculously low levels and were doing what Daniel did, I would change my opinion of them in a hurry.Please understand that I have no issue with you dropping down in limits, and in fact I think it would be tremendous for the game of poker if you and your peers would do so from time to time to encourage people to play. However if you step down then your game should still remain the same, and you shouldn't club people over the head because they are defenseless.Also as an ambassador for the Wynn, I would think that this is not the way you would want to conduct yourself.Daniel, I enjoy watching you and hope that you will take this to heart and think about it before responding, if you do respond, and I hope you do.Okay I am done, begin the flaming!

[drugrunnerz 0]

Yes but there is reason they allow max buy in. Those players understand that before they sit down.

[guinevar 0]

You really put too much thought into Daniel's life.

[majorleag 0]

Yes but there is reason they allow max buy in. Those players understand that before they sit down.

Yes I get that, but they don't expect a wealthy pro to sit down at their table and do this, now do they?

I continued to raise every pot. At one point, two players limped in for $10 and I said,"10? I'm in for 10," and threw out two $5000 chips with the Q-3 off suit. They all folded naturally.I won a nice pot with the Q-10 of clubs. The flop came 10-7c 3c and I checked to the player on my left who bet 200. I made it $75,000 to go and he called for his last few thousand.

Tell me that, that is what the Wynn expects from their ambassador?I just think it is really poor and I am sure that most people on here will defend Daniel and crucify me and I am prepared for that.However I will stand very firm in my statements that this was very poor behavior and I would be willing to wager that no other pro would do this.Furthermore if any other pro would do this they wouldn't boast about it on a public forum.Just my opinion!

[Forrest Crunk 0]

people like you are the reason that DN 's going to stop blogging for us. can't be too much fun if you are going to log into your site and see people whining every time you fart and cough...players have the right to stand up and leave the table at any time they find that the conditions are not conducive to their style of play.

[drugrunnerz 0]

Yeah, whether or not they expect is another story, you never go to your local B&M expecting to play with DN, but anyone in the world can sit with 125,000. You wouldn't even say a word if it wasn't DN there, it doesn't matter, because the other players know people can do this.If they didn't like it, they could have sat at one of the other 2 tables.

[justblaze 0]

Okay I have a triple layer flame retardant suit on, as I fully expect about 4,000 degree flames coming my way.I of course like most of you have not met Daniel and would certainly like to at some point. I like his style most of the time and enjoy watching him play on TV.Having said all of that I really was not happy to read his entry today about his amusing antics at the $5.00-$10.00 table beating the hell out of the little guy.I think Daniel needs to reflect back to when he was a new and or less financially secure player and how he would have felt if a very wealthy pro sat down at his $5-10 table and started betting tens of thousands of dollars.

I would love for anyone to sit with 10k$ and donk off in my games. wouldnt you?

[majorleag 0]

You really put too much thought into Daniel's life.

Give me a ****ing break!!This has nothing to do with his life and everything to do with Poker and the behavior of pro's and the overall image and good of the game.Nothing positive can come from what Daniel did. Now if there is somethign more or missing from the story then I would love to hear it.

[looshle 6]

Yea it would suck to be able to wait for the nuts and get paid off.

[drugrunnerz 0]

Yeah, whether or not they expect is another story, you never go to your local B&M expecting to play with DN, but anyone in the world can sit with 125,000. You wouldn't even say a word if it wasn't DN there, it doesn't matter, because the other players know people can do this.If they didn't like it, they could have sat at one of the other 2 tables.

[majorleag 0]

people like you are the reason that DN 's going to stop blogging for us. can't be too much fun if you are going to log into your site and see people whining every time you fart and cough...players have the right to stand up and leave the table at any time they find that the conditions are not conducive to their style of play.

People like me?What like American's that want to and have the right to voice their opinion like you?I guess I should just stop posting?This is why people don't want to post anymore. I fully expected that nobody else would see anything wrong with this, and like little fanboys would come to Daniel's defense.As I said I like Daniel but that does not mean I won't make a constructive criticisim if I don't agree.Many people in this forum are sheep, who will blindly defend and follow Daniel no matter what he says or does.Oooo Daniel might not blog anymore because of my comments!!!Please I give Daniel much more credit than that, he is not going to stop blogging because of my or anyone else's comments.What flavor Kool Aid would you like sir?

[majorleag 0]

players have the right to stand up and leave the table at any time they find that the conditions are not conducive to their style of play.

Yeah they sure do.Have you played at a B&M casino lately?Try and leave a table and see how quickly you find another one.Did you even read Daniel's blog where he mentions how full the tables were?

[NortonFan 0]

Okay I have a triple layer flame retardant suit on, as I fully expect about 4,000 degree flames coming my way.I of course like most of you have not met Daniel and would certainly like to at some point. I like his style most of the time and enjoy watching him play on TV.Having said all of that I really was not happy to read his entry today about his amusing antics at the $5.00-$10.00 table beating the hell out of the little guy.I think Daniel needs to reflect back to when he was a new and or less financially secure player and how he would have felt if a very wealthy pro sat down at his $5-10 table and started betting tens of thousands of dollars.

I would love for anyone to sit with 10k$ and donk off in my games. wouldnt you?

[drugrunnerz 0]

players have the right to stand up and leave the table at any time they find that the conditions are not conducive to their style of play.

Yeah they sure do.Have you played at a B&M casino lately?Try and leave a table and see how quickly you find another one.Did you even read Daniel's blog where he mentions how full the tables were?

What would be worse? Waiting an hour for a new seat, or losing the last of your 3k bankroll?

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

Major, I beg to differ. I never sit down at the poker table with money I'm not prepared to lose. I obviously don't want to lose it, but if I do, it isn't the end of my world. Another way to view this would be to look at the first hand he talked about. That guy made 2800 in two minutes. Take the good with the bad. If he is playing reckless, that is his perogative. He is there to take their money and they are there to take his. Free will bubba, you don't like the table, get up and sit at another one. Wait for premium hands and go all in and let the cards fall where they may. If it wasn't DN but some crazy "nutcase" playing, you would call the game juicy and be dying to sit down. Give him a break. He is just a poker player looking for a game. Don't hate on him for having cash to blow. If you had that cash, wouldn't you enjoy doing the same thing he did? I would.

[majorleag 0]

Yea it would suck to be able to wait for the nuts and get paid off.

Yeah this is great assuming that you last long enough to get the nuts when he happens to bet $75k and you have $5k in front of you so you make a quick $5k.What when you have or think you have the mortal nuts and he sucks out on you because you could never have enough money to push him out of calling with Queen, 3 of clubs?You are only seeing what a great benefit it would be to have such a benevolent benefactor at your table.It is not that simple, and I guarantee you that if you were to be sitting there under the circumstances described in his blog you would change your tune in a New York minute.

[Timdog1010 0]

Well, I'm a huge DN fan and that blog hasn't changed my opinion of him but...I was having some similar thoughts as I was reading that blog. On the one hand, it must have been a treat for those folks to have someone of DN's stature sit down with them. But on the other, it did seem kind of unfair. If these people were looking to bet tens of thousands of dollars on a single hand they probably wouldn't have chosen a 5-10 table. I guess I have mixed feelings on the subject...

[The Canadian 0]

It's not like winning a couple of grand will affect Daniel's life much, but it sure as hell would affect me for example if I had a strong hand but Daniel kept betting $10k and I had to keep folding and ended up losing $2-3k.

If you have a strong hand, you should be calling these bets. If you're folding because someone's betting huge into you for no other reason than it's a huge amount of money that you don't want to lose, you shouldn't be at the table in the first place...why do you have more on the table than you're willing to lose?

[ffishh 0]

You really put too much thought into Daniel's life.

Give me a censored break!!This has nothing to do with his life and everything to do with Poker and the behavior of pro's and the overall image and good of the game.Nothing positive can come from what Daniel did. Now if there is somethign more or missing from the story then I would love to hear it.

yes! This is bad for the game! He'll ruin Poker! Brilliant post. ffishhsw

[dead money 1]

Im sorry but I totally disagree. What he did is exactly the kind of thing that I would do if I had his kind of money. Ive played at tables with guys who had way too much money for the table, and I loved it. Its alot of fun to see someone go crazy on a table, and then see how all the other players react. They have fun. I played with Rob Boyd(Dutch's brother) and he was crazy. He would raise almost every pot and he never folded preflop. It was alot of fun and he didnt care if he blew 2k or 3k. Plus, the players at my table were loving it. They thought it was great. Im sure DN meant no disrespect, and if anybody felt that way, well, tough nuggies. He was just messin around. This kind of stuff is why DN is one of the poster boys of poker. I read all his articles on Pokerpages, and alot of them had to deal with how you treat the other players at the table. He always wanted the players coming back for more. He wrote about how there were other card games in the area, but that they always came back to play with him because he gave people what they want. Action! Thats all people want. This wasnt a bad thing imo. It was actually good for poker and DNs image.

[evesixer 0]

He was a little cocky in his latest blog, but people sitting down woth him could have gotten up and left. As far as him feeling he can beat the game without looking at his cards, so could I with a huge BR. I am a little disappointed as well.

[majorleag 0]

Major, I beg to differ. I never sit down at the poker table with money I'm not prepared to lose. I obviously don't want to lose it, but if I do, it isn't the end of my world. Another way to view this would be to look at the first hand he talked about. That guy made 2800 in two minutes. Take the good with the bad. If he is playing reckless, that is his perogative. He is there to take their money and they are there to take his. Free will bubba, you don't like the table, get up and sit at another one. Wait for premium hands and go all in and let the cards fall where they may. If it wasn't DN but some crazy "nutcase" playing, you would call the game juicy and be dying to sit down. Give him a break. He is just a poker player looking for a game. Don't hate on him for having cash to blow. If you had that cash, wouldn't you enjoy doing the same thing he did? I would.

Again with all due respect, I am not sure that some of you have read my entire original post in its full context.I have NO issue with him playing whereever he wants at what ever level he wants.He has a choice to play at $5-10 on up to the sky's the limit.The others DO NOT necessarily have that same choice. That is the point, that they may not be able to move easily.I can assure you that if I had the kind of money he has I would NOT go to a $5-10 table and start playing as he has.You cannot compare you, me or some other rich guy. He is a paid ambassador for The Wynn casino so he needs to act a little differently than you or I.Even if he were not doing this in his home casino it still would do nothing for his reputation, the reputation of other pro's and or the game of poker.That was my point.So let me reframe the question:Can anyone tell me how Daniel's behavior as he himself has posted can possibly be good and beneficial for the game of poker?For just a moment forget everything else and just concentrate and focus on answering the question in bold.

[Forrest Crunk 0]

hey don't be mad major, i'm just saying that every time there is a blog entry there seems to be someone who is personally affected by it in a negative way like you are about this latest one, and i think it's silly to post about it here so it can turn into a 128-reply post of whining and flaming, that's all, especially when you could write him an e-mail and probably get the response you are looking for from DN himself.

[Nickoli 0]

I think it is fine that he chose to do this... in fact, I definately agree that I would love to sit at a table with someone raising like that. I don't think it is rude really... it's poker.That being said, I'm not really sure how it prepares one to play their best in a few days when they have EQUAL chips and are up against strong competitors... Last time I checked Major League Baseball players don't warm up on the teeball field, but if they did man they would KILL that ball!

[majorleag 0]

It's not like winning a couple of grand will affect Daniel's life much, but it sure as hell would affect me for example if I had a strong hand but Daniel kept betting $10k and I had to keep folding and ended up losing $2-3k.

If you have a strong hand, you should be calling these bets. If you're folding because someone's betting huge into you for no other reason than it's a huge amount of money that you don't want to lose, you shouldn't be at the table in the first place...why do you have more on the table than you're willing to lose?

Did you forget the sw?So tell me, if you sit down at a $5-$10 NL table are you telling me that you fully expect that you will have $75k raises regularly?I don't think so.