home game horror stories, did i play them right?

[sjm20 0]

This week we were playing a freezeout at our weekly home game, and this came up:We get down to the final 4 (top 3 get paid) and I'm the BB. Blinds at this point are 3 and 6. UTG moves in for 27 straight and UTG +1 ( a loose player who can't get off any Ace calls after thinking for a while). I look dopwn at 36s and don't know what to do. I know I am getting almost 3 : 1 on my money with what I know are live cards. I think this is an easier call then if I had a weak A or K because I could be easily dominated. What would you do in this spot? btw, I have close t0 $120 in chips so if I lose I still have between 15 and 20 BBs and if I win Im the chip leader by a large margin.-sm

[flyingmachine 0]

I think you meant to post this in the "You know your a fish when you say..." thread.

[APS_IV 0]

I can't imagine an easier fold.

[guinevar 0]

You fold.Don't.spew.chips.on.the.bubble.as.chipleader.with.36s.Ever.If you folded and the board came down 457 of your suit, you still made a good fold.If you called, I don't know what to say. Maybe someone else can help me out.

[loogie 115]

I folded this hand before I opened the thread.

[flyingmachine 0]

But wait, did you say they were suited?

[Sudden14 0]

utg+1 cant get away from an ace? then he could easily have A3 or A6 and have you dominated.. how would you know theyre live?

[macphec 0]

I don't think it's as bad of a question as it seems given the odds and implied odds if he hits.I would still fold though

[dolfan 0]

Fold that hand and fold it often.

[thecamelot 0]

"one guy went all in infront of me, and another re-raised him all in after that. i look down at 2-7 offsuit, and i know they are live cards. should i call?"

[sjm20 0]

I hadn't considered the aspect of a very weak Ace with a 3 or 6, so that's a good point. Thanks for some of the help

[ChunkyLuver69 0]

this is a joke right??if it isnt its really sad36 suited you like a 8 to 1 against both those cards

[AceyDeucy 0]

Mike Caro's rule:You need better cards to overcall than to just call. Someone obviously thinks he can be the short stack. Do you think you can beat someone who thinks he can beat someone?As some mentioned, you might be looking at a domination situation with A6 or A3. Or 66 or 33 are not unlikely either as "I have to think about it but I will call" hands. Plus the short stack could EASILY have 8-6, 7-6 or even 5-6. If you have a massive, overwhelming chip lead and the chips won't make a significant dent in your stack, or improvement in another, you might toss it in just because there is no chance of significant loss.Now, there are some "implied odds" stuff because Aceboy has chips left. EXCEPT that he won't be calling anything without a serious hand because another player is all-in, and he will likely give you credit for not being a dry side pot bluffing dope. So you implied odds are actually pretty lousy, too. And your straight pot odds are not good enough to against what is likely four overcards on your non-pair. Side note:63s against four unsuited overs with no straight draws and no one killing any of your clubs (you best case scenario) you are going to with around 29-30% of the time. 3-1 pot odds are not good enough. As an example, I ran the odds for 6c3c against A8o and Q7o (no straights, and no clubs in the other hands, along with some other scenarios:You win: 29.4%If there is one club with the villains: 27.6%If both have a club: 26.8%If one is suited in clubs: 20.9%If the queen guy has a straight draw (7 becomes a 9), no clubs out: 29.6%If ace guy has a 6: 23.2%If ace guy has a 6 and Queen guy has a 3: 13.3%If ace guy has a 6 and Queen guy is suited in clubs: 15.6%There are no ways that this get better than "extremely marginal" and a lot of ways this gets to "really horrible."

[711Buddha 0]

Being the chip leader doesn't mean its OK to call with poor hands, it means its OK to call all in bets where you think its a coin flip. That's about the only advantage you enjoy.