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Hi folks, this is my first post. I live know in Vegas for about two weeks and last night I went out and actually played my first NL Cash-session. Actually I am a Tournamentplayer, but the game was right and so I sat down. We are now playing for 6 hours. My image so far is that of a loose aggressive player, who likes to fight for smallpots. When it got to showdown I either showed down a very strong hand or the nuts. Twice I had to show down a bluff.Villain in this hand is a very tight player. When he raises UTG this means either QQ-AA or AK maybe AQ.Stacks: Villain about $2,500Hero about $4,000So UTG/Vilain raises to $80 everybody folds to me in the BB. I call with 5 :icon_dance: 8 :club:2playersPot: $170The flop comes: J :icon_dance:6 :DT :D I check, Villains fires out $150 and I call (planing to bluff him out later, hoping for a 7, 8 or 9 or a heart with a more coordinated board or maybe I hit my hand a little more)So far Villain always bet out potsize as a Conti and almost always halfpot when he hits, so I put him on AK or AQ but I was not that sure.Pot: $470Turn: J :icon_dance:6 :)T :) ( 5 :club: )I really think that I took the lead, but I decided to keep the pot small, giving the fact that he probably only had a 20% chance to beat me.He checks behind.Pot:$470River: J :icon_dance:6 :)T :icon_dance:5 :D ( 5 :D )I bet out for only $150 to give him good pot odds to call, if he really has AK. I dont think he calls with A high here, but if I check he checks behind, so I do my best to get a bit more out of him. IMPORTANT: Once I got caught bluffing I made the same small bet on the end, which I think Villain hopefully remembers.Now Villain pushes All-In... Upps!?I try to get him to talk, but he sits there like a rock. No reads, nothing...Something more to villain: He is a very tight and solid player. If he made his conti and then checked the turn, i was almost 100% sure he had AK, but now, that he pushes All-In, I cant see AK here anymore. He isnt that stupid to risk all his chips with A high here. So he either has JJ, TT (which normally doesnt fit his UTG hands), AA or KK or QQ but he had played these hands differently before, by betting always half pot with those hands or he bluffs stonecold, which I havent seen him doing before. So sometimes people vary their play... What would you do...?

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Personally, I'm not taking this flop. When I'm taking a hand uphill with the intention of outplaying my opponent, I want to be in position.Checking behind with a set on this board on the turn seems incredibly passive and tricky. Unless he has shown some sort of indication of these characteristics in the past, I pay this bet off.

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Call. How can anyone put u on runner trips? No draws got there, so he may have a big overpair. Id be surprised if you were beat in this spot.

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Call. How can anyone put u on runner trips? No draws got there, so he may have a big overpair. Id be surprised if you were beat in this spot.
The thing is, he cant put me on trips, but if he has lets say AA, what hands does he expect to call this huge overbet. I think he has either the nuts or two napkins... I think he knows that I dont have KK or so. You know what I mean...
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the only had I would be worried about would be JJ or TT, when the river paired the board a lot of people think that they just beat your raggy two pair and pushed. I call and then cry when he turns over TT.Also calling with rags in an attempt to pick up the pot later from an UTG raiser whom you admitied was tight is a huge leak. I know you are suppose to be playing the person but the cards to help to from time to time. I am going to save you a lot of money and tell you that you need to stop trying to get people to lay down over pairs, it doesn't work.

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He might have you on a weak value bet here, and is hoping to stack you off?? What makes you think he's got the house here? What is he putting you on?

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1. Don't call a raise from an UTG player in what will be a HU pot when you are OOP with a suited 2 gapper2. Don't call a flop bet with total (and i mean TOTAL) air in order to try and bluff him out later when you are OOPI kinda wanna call shenanigans here. I dunno.Call obviously.

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The villain's river bet doesn't make sense if he puts the hero on air. It seems that he calls with AK to snap off a bluff from a missed draw.His bet is a little too big for an overpair hoping to get action from something like JT. The action looks to me like an unimproved AK trying to move the hero off a jack on the river. I'd think that people playing at 10/20 would know that this line looks suspicious, though.I still think checking the turn would be crazy for a set, so I can't really put him on anything. He's successfully confused me about his hand. So I'm back to level 0 thinking, which is "Trips is a good hand; therefore I call."

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both preflop and the flop are almost certainly terrible - far better to just let the hand go at either stage.given that, the river is a call. he could have TT/JJ, but according to your read, he could push here with QQ-AA. also, your UTG range for him includes no hands that are now ahead of you, so a call is simple.having said that, he's never folding TT/JJ UTG presumably, so your range is incorrect. this hand requires a lot more thought on your part.

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I check, Villains fires out $150 and I call (planing to bluff him out later, hoping for a 7, 8 or 9 or a heart with a more coordinated board or maybe I hit my hand a little more)
hit ur a hand a little more like runner runner????
IMPORTANT: Once I got caught bluffing I made the same small bet on the end, which I think Villain hopefully remembers.Now Villain pushes All-In... Upps!?
obv you call river
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I kinda wanna call shenanigans here. I dunno.Call obviously.
The format of the posts along with the Upps and all the elipses (...) makes me think this is ActionFalko posting under another name... Upps!http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...710&hl=Uppshttp://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...679&hl=Uppshttp://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...329&hl=Upps
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The format of the posts along with the Upps and all the elipses (...) makes me think this is ActionFalko posting under another name... Upps!http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...710&hl=Uppshttp://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...679&hl=Uppshttp://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...329&hl=Upps
Interesting. So a 100x jump in stakes?
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Hi folks, this is my first post. I live know in Vegas for about two weeks and last night I went out and actually played my first NL Cash-session. Actually I am a Tournamentplayer, but the game was right and so I sat down. We are now playing for 6 hours. My image so far is that of a loose aggressive player, who likes to fight for smallpots. When it got to showdown I either showed down a very strong hand or the nuts. Twice I had to show down a bluff.Villain in this hand is a very tight player. When he raises UTG this means either QQ-AA or AK maybe AQ.Stacks: Villain about $2,500Hero about $4,000So UTG/Vilain raises to $80 everybody folds to me in the BB. I call with 5 :icon_dance: 8 :club:2playersPot: $170The flop comes: J :icon_dance:6 :DT :D I check, Villains fires out $150 and I call (planing to bluff him out later, hoping for a 7, 8 or 9 or a heart with a more coordinated board or maybe I hit my hand a little more)So far Villain always bet out potsize as a Conti and almost always halfpot when he hits, so I put him on AK or AQ but I was not that sure.Pot: $470Turn: J :icon_dance:6 :)T :) ( 5 :club: )I really think that I took the lead, but I decided to keep the pot small, giving the fact that he probably only had a 20% chance to beat me.He checks behind.Pot:$470River: J :icon_dance:6 :)T :icon_dance:5 :D ( 5 :D )I bet out for only $150 to give him good pot odds to call, if he really has AK. I dont think he calls with A high here, but if I check he checks behind, so I do my best to get a bit more out of him. IMPORTANT: Once I got caught bluffing I made the same small bet on the end, which I think Villain hopefully remembers.Now Villain pushes All-In... Upps!?I try to get him to talk, but he sits there like a rock. No reads, nothing...Something more to villain: He is a very tight and solid player. If he made his conti and then checked the turn, i was almost 100% sure he had AK, but now, that he pushes All-In, I cant see AK here anymore. He isnt that stupid to risk all his chips with A high here. So he either has JJ, TT (which normally doesnt fit his UTG hands), AA or KK or QQ but he had played these hands differently before, by betting always half pot with those hands or he bluffs stonecold, which I havent seen him doing before.
I don't think I call Mr. Very Tight here. Something REALLY suspicious about his line.
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Interesting. So a 100x jump in stakes?
This would fall in line with me calling shenanigans on the whole affair. This really just doesn't sound like the post of a 10/20 NL player or anyone who plays near those stakes for that matter.I also see that ActionFalko has copied my signature quite effectively. Try some originality people!
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HIJACK...hopefully the only hijack of the day for me...Everyone wish me luck tonight. I'm taking a coin flip by boarding the airplane. Hopefully I can win this coin flip and land safely.To the OP...call.

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Everyone wish me luck tonight. I'm taking a coin flip by boarding the airplane. Hopefully I can win this coin flip and land safely.
GOOD LUCK!!In case anyone else is curious about Naismith's flawless logic:Taking any flight is a coinflip of life and death. Once the plane takes off, there are 2 outcomes; it crashes or it lands. Therefore, you have a 50/50 chance of living or dying.
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I check, Villains fires out $150 and I call (planing to bluff him out later, hoping for a 7, 8 or 9 or a heart with a more coordinated board or maybe I hit my hand a little more)
i got to this part and stopped.I have trouble believing you play 10/20NL with ideas like this.don't plan to bluff.if u had a busted straight draw, and a possible flush hit, and your opponent checks to you, showing weakness by the flush, u can stab at that.I think this ties in with flop floating, which looks stupid in this situation
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The format of the posts along with the Upps and all the elipses (...) makes me think this is ActionFalko posting under another name... Upps!http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...710&hl=Uppshttp://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...679&hl=Uppshttp://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...329&hl=Upps
I think this correlation is hilarious. I almost find it funnier that you picked up on such small things like that. I hope you have the same attention to detail at the poker tables.
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I think this correlation is hilarious. I almost find it funnier that you picked up on such small things like that. I hope you have the same attention to detail at the poker tables.
i think the fact that most of us picked up on very fishy action at 10/20 says a lot for our games ;)if poker doesnt work out, P.I.??
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GOOD LUCK!!In case anyone else is curious about Naismith's flawless logic:Taking any flight is a coinflip of life and death. Once the plane takes off, there are 2 outcomes; it crashes or it lands. Therefore, you have a 50/50 chance of living or dying.
He could also die of natural causes during the flight, so you might think he's a 2:1 dog to survive. But you also have to consider that he might be abducted by aliens and thus survive a crash.
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It's more in reference to the actual plane itself. The plane either crashes or it doesn't crash. 50-50.If you think of things that could happen to me individually, live, die, discover I have super powers, get raptured...it's really endless.

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He could also die of natural causes during the flight, so you might think he's a 2:1 dog to survive. But you also have to consider that he might be abducted by aliens and thus survive a crash.
lolI think he needs to put us on in his will as a backup incase he goes bust
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Stacks: Villain about $250Hero about $400So UTG/Vilain raises to $8 everybody folds to me in the BB. I call with 5 :icon_dance: 8 :club:2playersPot: $17The flop comes: J :icon_dance:6 :DT :D I check, Villains fires out $15 and I call (planing to bluff him out later, hoping for a 7, 8 or 9 or a heart with a more coordinated board or maybe I hit my hand a little more)So far Villain always bet out potsize as a Conti and almost always halfpot when he hits, so I put him on AK or AQ but I was not that sure.Pot: $47Turn: J :icon_dance:6 :)T :) ( 5 :club: )I really think that I took the lead, but I decided to keep the pot small, giving the fact that he probably only had a 20% chance to beat me.He checks behind.Pot:$47River: J :icon_dance:6 :)T :icon_dance:5 :D ( 5 :D )I bet out for only $15 to give him good pot odds to call, if he really has AK. I dont think he calls with A high here, but if I check he checks behind, so I do my best to get a bit more out of him. IMPORTANT: Once I got caught bluffing I made the same small bet on the end, which I think Villain hopefully remembers.Now Villain pushes All-In... Upps!?
Even when I delete the Zeroes and make it a 1/2 game, the play still seems horrible and clueless.
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