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just checking up here... SORRY!!! something's wrong w/ either my iexplorer.exe or w/ flop turn river... every time i try to convert the shyt doesn't post... so i posted it on ph.org http://www.pokerhand.org/?1682534this is a standard fold, correct?the only thing i could think was he was trying to hit & run w/ AA & a stupid donk shove... but i've seen donks do this w/ 88 before... so i was kinda on the fence about this & was wondering for future reference... i actually used most of my time bank to think about this... oh yeah, fwiw i've got 2 hands on him in my entire PT database (as small as that still is) & never seen him before... he bought in w/ 40bbz.... so yeah, no reads obv

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so yeah, no reads obv
This is why I hate shorties. He could be doing this with fours. I said just the other day that I loathe giving them action. I really do. I might fold and chat at him, "I might give you action if you buy a full buy in and do that."This shiite is just another reason I really don't play cash games on the net any more.
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yeah... all these things ran through my mind which is why it took so long for me to think it through...i just thought about it like well, if he does have A K / TT or something... i dont really mind, i'm a stronger player & i can def find more / other / better spots to take his money... i know this isn't a tourney & it's either +EV or it's not, but i just dislike shipping my stack in PF almost regardless of what i hold... and i didn't think JJ was quite strong enough to justify a call here... strangely, i'd have probably done it w/ QQ... then again that would have probably been an even harder decision for me...not to mention i'm still technically racing vs AQo& fwiw mt... i too loathe the fuccin shorties...& once in a while i also lament my distaste "maybe if you fuccin had anything worth winning"fuccers

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I think I'd fold without a read, there just isn't a reason to bother with calling unless you know the player is willing to do this with less than AQs, AKo, AKs, and JJ+.

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there just isn't a reason to bother
that's what i figured, & wanted to make sure everyone else was on the same page... i run into these spots more often than i like (which IS one major thing that sux about online vs live) where i have strong but still marginal holdings vs someone who only bought in w/ 30 BBz who just shoved 2x the size of the pot... btw, those british laws are fuccin unbelieveable...
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Why would you be upset with them running? I'd rather them run and have the seat filled by a full stack anyways.
Because then that's someone else's money. You don't want that. You want your own money back. It's personal. He stole from you.
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100% call vs a shortie, you will see as little as A rag here
I don't really think that's necessarily true. You'll see Ax here pretty rarely, but I think most of the time the guy is going to have a hand where we're flipping or crushed. Without a read, I'd fold, with some PT stats or whatever, then I may call.
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i think it starts with what you think his range is. has he shown down anything but good hands? does he look like he's stealing a bunch? has he shoved before?i think because he's so short i'd call, see AK or <JJ pretty often, but i'd be pretty sure im gonna get sucked out on anyway

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