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#61 antistuff

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 06:58 PM

View Postjmbreslin, on Monday, May 12th, 2008, 11:25 AM, said:

antistuff, would you be willing to share your thought process on the river there? It's a pretty threatening board, with several straight possibilities that could have filled on the river. Did you assume that villains were all on low draws because of the passive play (no flop bets, no turn raises)? In other words, did you think you stood a decent chance of bluffing them off whatever highs they may have had, or did you not care if they called because you figured there was a decent chance your high was good enough?
i actually thought stevo for a straight and wanted to get synergy to fold his a2 so stevo and me could split his retarded bet into the river. i have a feeling synergy has me beat for high here a lot but i think when i make a big raise like that he is going to try to make a good lay down against me because i feel like he views me as the lucky idiot who always has it. in retrospect, im not entirely sure why i read synergy for being weak tight. i can't recall any previous hands with him that would have led me to that conclusion. there is a pretty general stereotype of players at this level who are way too weak tight, and his stats certainly fit the bill so maybe that was it. what ended up happening was a pretty nice surprise. while not exactly a standard hand, it illustrates an idea vital for playing this game. sometimes when you have a lock on one side and a weak hand on the other you have to try to push people out.
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 05:47 AM

Yeah, that idea has come up in discussion before. My first thought when looking at a hand like that is I'm going to play it carefully because I don't want to get quartered, but what you've said before is that playing these situations aggressively is +ev because the $ you make from pushing people off hands more than makes up for the occasional quartering. But I'm not covinced it would work very well at my stakes (.02-.05) because good laydowns are much less likely at that level.
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 09:24 AM

ummmm................. can you say pussed out? couldn't figure what he would raise there that I beat but by just calling the raise on the turn I set him up to pay me off then just plain pussed out! :club: PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP ($17.80)Hero ($5.97)SB ($5.44)BB ($13.18)UTG ($7.27)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q :D , Q :ts , 2 :D , A :5c . UTG raises to $0.1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds.Flop: ($0.27) K :3h , A :4h , A :D (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $0.1, UTG calls $0.10.Turn: ($0.47) Q :qh (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $0.4, UTG raises to $0.8, Hero calls $0.40.River: ($2.07) 6 :D (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $1, UTG raises to $2, Hero calls $1.Final Pot: $6.07Results in white below: UTG has Ts 9c 6h Jh (High: straight, ace high). Hero has Qs Qd 2c Ah (High: full house, aces full of queens). Outcome: Hero wins $6.07.
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


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Posted 13 May 2008 - 10:37 AM

Players at these stakes are very good at overvaluing mediocre hands - he could be playing anything from a made straight or flush on the turn to trip Aces with a lower kicker. He's probably not putting you on a boat because of your small flop lead. Absolutely amazing that he would play a straight so aggressively on such a threatening board. Just shows how bad some of the players are at this level. The thing is, you have no idea whether he's trapping w/ AK when he check-calls the flop and then minraises the turn, so don't beat yourself up about not getting more value out of the hand.
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 12:53 PM

View Postrvrchsrhtr, on Tuesday, May 13th, 2008, 1:24 PM, said:

ummmm................. can you say pussed out? couldn't figure what he would raise there that I beat but by just calling the raise on the turn I set him up to pay me off then just plain pussed out! :club: PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP ($17.80)Hero ($5.97)SB ($5.44)BB ($13.18)UTG ($7.27)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q :D , Q :ts , 2 :D , A :5c . UTG raises to $0.1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds.Flop: ($0.27) K :3h , A :4h , A :D (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $0.1, UTG calls $0.10.Turn: ($0.47) Q :qh (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $0.4, UTG raises to $0.8, Hero calls $0.40.River: ($2.07) 6 :D (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $1, UTG raises to $2, Hero calls $1.Final Pot: $6.07Results in white below: UTG has Ts 9c 6h Jh (High: straight, ace high). Hero has Qs Qd 2c Ah (High: full house, aces full of queens). Outcome: Hero wins $6.07.
i would probably check/call that river. depends on the player i guess though.
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 07:51 PM

is this like a challenge thread? if it is, then i'd like to say that i played my first session of LO8 in 4 months today (to start warming up for june in vegas) and won 20BB at 5/10. ship my 2nd o8 winning session this year, lol.no interesting hands to post, though. maybe it's worth saying that i VALUEraised a357 rainbow utg once. :club:
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 06:38 PM

View Postcheckymcfold, on Tuesday, May 13th, 2008, 11:51 PM, said:

is this like a challenge thread? if it is, then i'd like to say that i played my first session of LO8 in 4 months today (to start warming up for june in vegas) and won 20BB at 5/10. ship my 2nd o8 winning session this year, lol.no interesting hands to post, though. maybe it's worth saying that i VALUEraised a357 rainbow utg once. :club:
when are you going to be in vegas in june? im going to be there the 19th so the 24th.
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 06:49 PM

View Postantistuff, on Wednesday, May 14th, 2008, 9:38 PM, said:

when are you going to be in vegas in june? im going to be there the 19th so the 24th.
gonna be there for all of june and at least a couple days in july. not quite sure about the july part yet, though.
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Posted 15 May 2008 - 03:24 AM

ooops double post Nice to see you back in the o8 forum Checky!
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


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Posted 15 May 2008 - 03:26 AM

raise you say? :club: ok, I guess I'll just callPokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Hero ($5.05)SB ($10.36)BB ($9.95)UTG ($6.34)Preflop: Hero is Button with Posted Image, Posted Image, Posted Image, Posted Image. UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10.Flop: ($0.60) Posted Image, Posted Image, Posted Image (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.3, SB folds, BB raises to $0.6, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.30.Turn: ($1.80) Posted Image (2 players)BB bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75.River: ($5.30) Posted Image (2 players)BB bets all in and hero calls total pot $10.40 stupid converterFinal Pot: $5.30Results in white below: BB has Qh 6h 7s 9s (High: flush, king high). Hero has Ah 2d As 4h (Low: 7, 4, 3, 2, A | High: flush, ace high). Outcome: Hero wins $5.30.
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


Holy Crip it's a Crapple!

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 05:24 AM

My lord, man, how do you seem to find these players? It's like they're giving away money.Nice flop...and turn...
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Posted 15 May 2008 - 06:32 AM

View Postjmbreslin, on Thursday, May 15th, 2008, 9:24 AM, said:

My lord, man, how do you seem to find these players? It's like they're giving away money.Nice flop...and turn...
I know it's crazy! I don't think I'll ever go back to full ring and consistently min raising/2-3x tilts people like mad!!!!!
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


Holy Crip it's a Crapple!

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 03:47 AM

luv getting shoved at on the rvr when you are holding the nutz :club: PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Hero ($6.34)UTG ($10.33)MP ($4.40)CO ($6.15)Button ($3.92)SB ($9.95)Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 :ts , 6 :D , J :3h , A :D . 1 fold, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, Button calls $0.05, SB completes, Hero checks.Flop: ($0.25) 7 :D , Q :4h , J :5c (5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP folds.Turn: ($1) 4 :D (3 players)Hero bets $0.95, CO calls $0.95, Button folds.River: ($2.90) K :qh (2 players)Hero bets $1.55, CO raises to $4.9, Hero calls $3.35.Final Pot: $12.70Results in white below: Hero has 8d 6s Jh As (High: flush, ace high). CO has Ad 8c Ks 2s (High: flush, king high). Outcome: Hero wins $12.70.
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


Holy Crip it's a Crapple!

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 03:52 AM

then a couple hands later same table................. A2 anyone? :club: PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Hero ($11.23)MP ($10.22)CO ($4.64)Button ($3.38)SB ($4.16)BB ($9.91)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q :ts , 3 :D , A :4h , 2 :D . Hero calls $0.05, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.1, Button calls $0.10, SB calls $0.08, BB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05.Flop: ($0.50) 5 :5c , 4 :qh , 6 :D (5 players)SB checks, BB bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Button folds, SB folds.Turn: ($2) 7 :D (3 players)BB bets $1.9, Hero calls $1.90, CO calls $1.90.River: ($7.70) K :3h (3 players)Final Pot: $7.70everyone gets it all in final pot $24.66 (stupid converter)Results in white below: BB has As 6d Jc 2s (Low: 6, 5, 4, 2, A | High: one pair, sixes). Hero has Qd 3h Ah 2c (Low: 6, 5, 4, 2, A | High: flush, ace high). CO has 6h Ac 2d 5d (Low: 6, 5, 4, 2, A | High: two pair, sixes and fives). Outcome: Hero wins $5.13. CO wins $1.28. BB wins $1.28.
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


Holy Crip it's a Crapple!

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 06:01 PM

The great thing about this game at these stakes is that when things aren't going well, all it takes is one good hand and a maniac donk to play right into you. MP1 was a guy who had been playing the "push every hand and hope the poker gods come through with cards" strategy since he sat down.PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP2 ($2.20)CO ($10.26)Button ($4)SB ($4.79)BB ($15.21)UTG ($3.30)Hero ($6.12)MP1 ($14.32)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with JPosted Image, KPosted Image, 5Posted Image, APosted Image. 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: ($0.30) QPosted Image, TPosted Image, KPosted Image (6 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.1, MP1 raises to $0.3, MP2 calls $0.30, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $1.5, MP1 raises to $3, MP2 calls $1.85 (All-In), Hero raises to $7.47, MP1 calls $3.07.Turn: ($6.75) QPosted Image (3 players, 1 all-in)River: ($6.75) 8Posted Image (3 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $15.99Results:Hero has Jc Kc 5h Ah (High: straight, ace high). MP1 has 2d 9c 3c 6d (High: one pair, queens). MP2 has Jh Ks 7h Ts (High: two pair, kings and queens). Outcome: Hero wins $15.99.
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Posted 19 May 2008 - 04:37 AM

View Postjmbreslin, on Friday, May 16th, 2008, 10:01 PM, said:

The great thing about this game at these stakes is that when things aren't going well, all it takes is one good hand and a maniac donk to play right into you. MP1 was a guy who had been playing the "push every hand and hope the poker gods come through with cards" strategy since he sat down.PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP2 ($2.20)CO ($10.26)Button ($4)SB ($4.79)BB ($15.21)UTG ($3.30)Hero ($6.12)MP1 ($14.32)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with JPosted Image, KPosted Image, 5Posted Image, APosted Image. 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: ($0.30) QPosted Image, TPosted Image, KPosted Image (6 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.1, MP1 raises to $0.3, MP2 calls $0.30, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $1.5, MP1 raises to $3, MP2 calls $1.85 (All-In), Hero raises to $7.47, MP1 calls $3.07.Turn: ($6.75) QPosted Image (3 players, 1 all-in)River: ($6.75) 8Posted Image (3 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $15.99Results:Hero has Jc Kc 5h Ah (High: straight, ace high). MP1 has 2d 9c 3c 6d (High: one pair, queens). MP2 has Jh Ks 7h Ts (High: two pair, kings and queens). Outcome: Hero wins $15.99.
give me back my donkeys! :club: good god man MP1 raises with 9 high flush draw and MP2 throws it in there w/ weak 2 pair....lmao
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


Holy Crip it's a Crapple!

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:45 AM

Tell me about it. My heart dropped into my shoes temporarily when the second Q fell on the turn, so I was quite relieved when we went to showdown and I came out on top. That said, I was only really concerned about MP2 so I still stood a good shot at the big side pot against MP1 even if MP2 took the main pot.This was one hand where using the HUD really came in handy - MP1's stats were something like 90/75/9.00 in the dozen or so hands since he sat down. So I knew I just needed one good hand to trap his ass.
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Posted 20 May 2008 - 01:03 PM

i've noticed that FTP now has omaha8/stud8 mixed tables. i think it would be great if these games got going. if anybody wants to play me HU at one of them anytime to try to start something i will play up to 2/4. if those games took off they would be a goldmine. my only stipulation is it has to be at a high traffic time to try to attract other players.PM me if you're interested.
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Posted 22 May 2008 - 05:25 AM

I'd play, but I'm not on FTP at all "yet"
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


Holy Crip it's a Crapple!

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 09:24 AM

30 min session today while boss was at lunch! 3 dif tables all in the first few minutes after sitting downPokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)UTG ($18.78)Hero ($5.95)CO ($10.03)Button ($5.77)SB ($6.28)BB ($8.46)Preflop: Hero is MP with 2 :D , 6 :4h , 3 :club: , 4 :5c . UTG calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, 1 fold, Button calls $0.05, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: ($0.25) 5 :ts , Q :D , 7 :3h (5 players)SB bets $0.05, BB folds, UTG calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, Button calls $0.05.Turn: ($0.45) 8 :D (4 players)SB bets $0.1, UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB folds.River: ($2.80) 2 :D (3 players)UTG bets $2.7, Hero calls $2.70, Button folds.Final Pot: $8.20Results in white below: UTG has Td 2d As Qh (Low: 8, 7, 5, 2, A | High: two pair, queens and twos). Hero has 2c 6h 3d 4h (Low: 7, 5, 4, 3, 2 | High: straight, eight high). Outcome: Hero wins $8.20.
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 6:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i told him that this hand makes him the worst player on the internet and that this was the gayest straight ever.

i then felt very clever.


Holy Crip it's a Crapple!




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