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232 started, $69+6 buyin, currently sitting 3/9 with 97k, average is 77k payouts:41612641200115601160edit: please read the hand history below and give me your feedback... very much appreciated.

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hmmm... busted in 4ththoughts on this hand... kind of hand that wins tournaments or donk move of the century? when he took so long to think and then smooth called, i put him on a good but marginal hand, something like 99, tt, or more likely aq or aj, all hands i thought he would fold to my shove. oops.Full Tilt Poker Game #1038930400: $13,000 Guarantee (6862424), Table 19 - 4000/8000 Ante 1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:24:04 ET - 2006/09/25Seat 1: BKiCe (135,211)Seat 4: SKEETER420 (38,060)Seat 8: blipbloop (384,895)Seat 9: Crazy Cokk (137,834)BKiCe antes 1,000SKEETER420 antes 1,000blipbloop antes 1,000Crazy Cokk antes 1,000blipbloop posts the small blind of 4,000Crazy Cokk posts the big blind of 8,000BKiCe: that's hwo mtts workThe button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to BKiCe [8h 8s]card2003 (Observer): bkiceBKiCe: jesusBKiCe raises to 22,000ChiTownsFinest (Observer): i know man SKEETER420 raises to 37,060, and is all incard2003 (Observer): FCP forum dude hereblipbloop foldsChiTownsFinest (Observer): u r just a luckboxA__theKevlar__2 (Observer): seriously you donk, play within your bankroll much?card2003 (Observer): go manCrazy Cokk has 15 seconds left to actCrazy Cokk calls 29,060BKiCe raises to 134,211, and is all inanakedcowboy (Observer): ... call....Crazy Cokk has 15 seconds left to actCrazy Cokk calls 97,151BKiCe shows [8h 8s]SKEETER420 shows [Qh Qs]Crazy Cokk shows [Jh Jd]*** FLOP *** [6d 7d 6c]card2003 (Observer): o wowblipbloop: nice*** TURN *** [6d 7d 6c] [2c]BKiCe: uh oh.*** RIVER *** [6d 7d 6c 2c] [Td]BKiCe shows two pair, Eights and SixesCrazy Cokk shows two pair, Jacks and SixesCrazy Cokk wins the side pot (194,302) with two pair, Jacks and SixesSKEETER420 shows two pair, Queens and SixesSKEETER420 wins the main pot (119,180) with two pair, Queens and SixesBKiCe stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 313,482 Main pot 119,180. Side pot 194,302. | Rake 0Board: [6d 7d 6c 2c Td]Seat 1: BKiCe showed [8h 8s] and lost with two pair, Eights and SixesSeat 4: SKEETER420 (button) showed [Qh Qs] and won (119,180) with two pair, Queens and SixesSeat 8: blipbloop (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 9: Crazy Cokk (big blind) showed [Jh Jd] and won (194,302) with two pair, Jacks and Sixes

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How many tourneys do you play a day?And can you give a ballpark of what your BR is?I only ask because I wanna be like you. lolGL...again.
i play somewhere between 8 and 15 tournies on days i play, and i play 5 or 6 days a week usually.my bankroll is around 40k... every week i withdraw the balance over 40k (this isn't fixed.. could be 38, 39, 42, etc) and put it in index funds, so it's never over 40k, although theoretically i have a lot more fwiw, there's no chance i'm not gonna win this triple crown. be back sometime in the next few days :]
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dang....your results speak for themselves.. but a 40k bankroll with a lot of extra poker money that has been made is impressive. How old are you?

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dang....your results speak for themselves.. but a 40k bankroll with a lot of extra poker money that has been made is impressive. How old are you?
19NEED MOAR OPINIONS ON THAT HAND... BE HONEST IF YOU THINK I'M TERRIBLE
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19NEED MOAR OPINIONS ON THAT HAND... BE HONEST IF YOU THINK I'M TERRIBLE[/quoteUR TERRIBLE!.. lol kidding... nah i think its an instamuck bro... cold call there screams monster hand, or AK... don't know the quality of his play, but i'd like to assume that he is folding AJ,AQ, TT and 99 to this guy, and even JJ if he has any clue... no need to make a play like this here, i fold and move on
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I may not have the credentials to make this comment but, I think you didn't think through that hand well enough. Unless the caller was a complete donk and you think he can make that call with a lower PP your never in clear saling. But that's just how I would think of it. Online tourneys are different since the blinds are so high and all so I guess gambling in that position isn't such a wrong choice.

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marky i don't think i can "instamuck"... it's 15k more to me and there's over 100k in the pot, even if i'm not shoving i think i have to smooth call preflop. if he pushed into me on the flop i prolly coulda got away from it, but if he checked to me on that flop i woulda shoved anyway... i dunno, weird hand, guess i shoulda played it more passive.

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I find that a lot of peopel lately have been flat calling with huge hands hoping to get a squeeze play out of someone. I've busted in at least 5 tourneys where I try and Squeeze with AQ or AJ or TT only to find someone insta call with AA or AK (in this case even JJ). It's more prevalent lately than ever before, as squeeze plays are getting more popular.I call the flop, and check it down. When two people show strength, its hard to think ur 8s are good here (note that the guy who only flat called the guys all in is showing a ton of strength, considering if he had a marginal hand, he would probably try to isolate). Id at least check the flop and turn, if he's still checking, bet the river. But this isnt a hand I would like to go broke on.
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You, sir, are GODZILLA!!!!!! Tokyo's going DOWN!As far as the call goes, I'd be inclined to simply call and see what the flop brings. With both of them in, I'd put at least one on an overpair. 88 isn't that strong against 2 people.

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marky i don't think i can "instamuck"... it's 15k more to me and there's over 100k in the pot, even if i'm not shoving i think i have to smooth call preflop. if he pushed into me on the flop i prolly coulda got away from it, but if he checked to me on that flop i woulda shoved anyway... i dunno, weird hand, guess i shoulda played it more passive.
yeah i definetely think you can call here, although 15k is a lot of your remaining stack to draw to two outs with
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AT first I thought its an easy muck or call. But the more I think about it I think you played it right and got unlucky. You're not really worried about the short stack, and the middle guy is folding in that spot almost all the time. He just happened to have a big hand. You could make an arguement for a call, but that puts you in a tough spot on the flop. Unless its a scary flop or you flop a set you still may get nailed. He checks a safe flop and you bet, then he check raises and your committed. I like the push, its gets maximum value for you if your up against an over pair and eliminates a decision on the flop, plus forces the BB out most of the time.

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AT first I thought its an easy muck or call. But the more I think about it I think you played it right and got unlucky. You're not really worried about the short stack, and the middle guy is folding in that spot almost all the time. He just happened to have a big hand. You could make an arguement for a call, but that puts you in a tough spot on the flop. Unless its a scary flop or you flop a set you still may get nailed. He checks a safe flop and you bet, then he check raises and your committed. I like the push, its gets maximum value for you if your up against an over pair and eliminates a decision on the flop, plus forces the BB out most of the time.
not true at all... i don't think he folds there a lot of the time, because it's very possible he coldcalls with a hand like AA or KK inducing bkice to shove in or at least put some more chips in the pot... may look at it as a gamble, but with only 4 left or whatever there were, i like the play... he did end up having JJ so he sucks but yeah i can see him flatcalling AA there
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not true at all... i don't think he folds there a lot of the time, because it's very possible he coldcalls with a hand like AA or KK inducing bkice to shove in or at least put some more chips in the pot... may look at it as a gamble, but with only 4 left or whatever there were, i like the play... he did end up having JJ so he sucks but yeah i can see him flatcalling AA there
I agree that he can flat call there with AA or KK, but I don't think he has those hands enough of the time to worry much. I did say that I think it was played correctly. I can see him calling with and then folding Ak-A10 KQ, KJ, 66-99. And I see those hands occuring more often than AA or KK, thats why I said he folds most of the time. Maybe I am wrong, but in that spot I just don't worry that much about AA or KK. If he has it, oh well tough luck. But if he does have it I want to see all 5 cards to maximize my suckout potential.
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not true at all... i don't think he folds there a lot of the time, because it's very possible he coldcalls with a hand like AA or KK inducing bkice to shove in or at least put some more chips in the pot... may look at it as a gamble, but with only 4 left or whatever there were, i like the play... he did end up having JJ so he sucks but yeah i can see him flatcalling AA there
eh, i think you might feel differently if you had been at the table.. he had been playing pretty weak, and esp with the kind of payout jumps he's working out in his head if i knock out third place, i still think he's folding the majority of hands he's limping with there. it's true that he could have smooth called with aa or kk but i really didn't think he was a tricky opponent and really thought he had a marginal hand, as i said maybe 99 or tt but more likely aj-aq-ak (all hands i would have end up beating for the very significant sidepot if he had called, which i didn't think he would, except for ak and possibly tt). also, think about how strong my hand looks from his perspective (very, i think)also, i think he played his jj absolutely terribly and shoulda instashoved over the top of me... i'd be interested to know what he was thinking about that hand... dunno if he thought he was trapping, or if he was making a crying call, or what the hell he was doing, but i don't think his play was correct at all. a lot of the responses are looking at this hand in terms of "you have 88, a mid pocket pair, which is weak to a reraise and a call" but i think there is much more to this hand...
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