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Poll: HOF 2013 (15 member(s) have cast votes)

Who would you vote for? Choose up to 10.

  1. Jack Morris (7 votes [5.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.83%

  2. Jeff Bagwell (10 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  3. Lee Smith (3 votes [2.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

  4. Tim Raines (10 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  5. Alan Trammell (3 votes [2.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

  6. Edgar Martinez (8 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  7. Fred McGriff (2 votes [1.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.67%

  8. Larry Walker (1 votes [0.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.83%

  9. Mark McGwire (6 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  10. Don Mattingly (3 votes [2.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

  11. Dale Murphy (2 votes [1.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.67%

  12. Rafael Palmeiro (1 votes [0.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.83%

  13. Bernie Williams (1 votes [0.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.83%

  14. Craig Biggio (10 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  15. Barry Bonds (12 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  16. Roger Clemens (12 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  17. Kenny Lofton (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  18. Mike Piazza (13 votes [10.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.83%

  19. Curt Schilling (11 votes [9.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.17%

  20. Sammy Sosa (5 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:38 PM


Really enjoyed this article written by Jayson Stark. Brings up some very good points about the confusion that is the current HOF. For those of you not interested in reading the whole thing he talks a lot about deciding what kind of HOF we the fans and the voters want it to be. Either it needs to be a museum and we put all the great players of their generation in it (regardless of steroids, etc) and explain the history and era in which they played or it needs to be more of a shrine and only the "angels of baseball" should reside. But basically it can't be both.

The games are official. The stats are official. The championships won are official, but we are choosing to ignore the players as if what they did doesn't actually "count." And if it doesn't really count, why do the stats, records, games played by these men count? A lot of memorabilia from these players are already in the hall of fame, but once again, the players themselves are not.

The best part of the article for me was when he listed what is missing from the HOF right now.

• The all-time home-run leader (Barry Bonds)?
• The pitcher who won the most Cy Youngs in history (Roger Clemens)?
• The man who broke Roger Maris' storied home-run record (Mark McGwire)?
• The hitter who had more 60-homer seasons than any player ever (Sammy Sosa)?
• The greatest hitting catcher in history (Mike Piazza)?
• One of four hitters with 3,000 hits and 500 home runs (Rafael Palmeiro)?
• And -- aw, what the heck, might as well throw him in there -- the all-time hit king (Peter Edward Rose)?

Can the HOF really portray an accurate history of the game with so many noteworthy pieces missing from it?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

**** you guys.

View PostiZuma, on 20 August 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

napa I was jesus christing suited, you guys just slipped in before me.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:44 PM

I voted for Morris, Bagwell, McGwire, Murphy, Biggio, Bonds, Clemens, Piazza, Schilling, and Sosa. I would've voted for a few more too. Probably the only ones on the list that I wouldn't vote for are Mattingly, Williams, and Lofton.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:37 AM

LOL Morris. How anyone can think Jack Morris was better than Alan Trammell (not to mention Lou Whitaker), is beyond me. Morris was just... his ERA is 3.90. He threw a lot of innings, and was good, but at no point... just... no.

The guy I think really gets jobbed is Edgar Martinez. He's a .315/.415/.515 guy for his career. Which is gross. He flat stung the ball for 15 years.

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