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#1601 FCP Bob

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:31 AM

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Trump continues to slam former US intel leaders: “I mean, give me a break, they are political hacks...I mean, you have Brennan, you have Clapper and you have Comey..So you look at that and you have President Putin very strongly, vehemently says he had nothing to do with them”

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:14 AM

why are they wearing matching coats?

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Now that i've had a few drinks, I'm ready to admilt that the reason I dont post more is suited.

I hate every fiber of his being. He's awful and everything he writes is wrong, coupled with being annoying. Its uncanny how awful he is. If he was around when this thread was thriving, he would have killed it. Thankfully, he wasnt.

Maybe in the real world, he's not so awful (evidence says otherwise) but here, he makes me want to fight. Nobody makes me want to fight. Its beyond weird. I almost feel bad, but I dont

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 06:37 PM

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 06:46 PM

View Postscuudagouch, on 10 November 2017 - 03:33 AM, said:

.or do you think the Clintons and Soros and Gates of the world don't use tax laws....so stop the chicken little, it is all and only trump routine and maybe there could be an interesting conversation. Until then just more fake news!

LOL; Gates, Buffet, and the Clintons have all pushed for higher taxes on the rich.
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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:33 PM

View PostFenxis, on 11 November 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

LOL; Gates, Buffet, and the Clintons have all pushed for higher taxes on the rich.

Look at how their companies use tax laws, like NetJet. They find every way to not pay taxes. Then on their own money they talk about higher taxes.

NetJet could have just handed over the $500mill it owed without fighting it if they were so tax friendly.

And Gates? He;s got a little bit of the hypocrisy problem


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getting Microsoft out of about $1.5 billion in taxes a year



not Clinton, he just uses charitable organizations to dodge paying any taxes. Like how he uses his Canadian branch to receive shady offerings then transfer them to the US without having to disclose the names from the Canadian part of the same slush fund.

3 guys who tell you about the hundreds of dollars they give away while they keep millions
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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:42 PM

View PostFCP Bob, on 09 November 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

and when the asset is sold by the heirs they will only pay taxes on the increase in it's value from the time they inherited.

buy asset for $100,000 in 1990
asset is worth $10,000,000 in 2017

If the owner sells the shares before they die they pay capital gains tax on the increase.

If they die their heirs inherit the asset and for tax purposes the cost price is $10,000,000 so no tax is ever paid on the increase from $100,000 to $10,000,000.

It's the perfect crime.

Buy a stock, with post tax dollars, watch it become huge; making yourself super rich.

Then you DIE and don't have to pay any taxes on it!

It's genius! There is no downside...well except for the dying part.


The government is ENTITLED to all monies. You have no right to gain ANY without giving them their share.

Work your job until April 23rd and give every penny to the government, every year. That is your duty, because the government is very efficient and careful with your money.

How dare anyone try to keep their money.


Besides, they will probably just blow it on investing in a new home or a yacht..putting hundreds of middle class people to work so they can have nice things. It's so unfair.
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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:55 PM

Turns out Trump didn't ruin the economy.

Turns out Trump didn't ruin our relations with China

Turns out Trump didn't destroy America's image around the world

His latest tweet may be my favorite of all time.
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Posted 12 November 2017 - 12:00 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on 11 November 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

3 guys who tell you about the hundreds of dollars they give away while they keep millions

And how is lowering the income tax going to get people do stop abusing these loopholes?

Just a year ago you swore until you were blue in the face that Trump declaring bankruptcy 4 times made him a savvy business and the fact that he used actual dubious loopholes in tax code to declare illegitimate tax losses made him the uber leader.

Look in the mirror for half the stuff you bitch about.
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Posted 12 November 2017 - 07:07 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on 11 November 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

His latest tweet may be my favorite of all time.

Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 08:57 PM

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Here's what NK actually said about Trump. And the fact he has gone from wanting to carpet bomb Pyonyang with nukes to thinking that they can be buds kind of backs that up.
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 04:54 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on 11 November 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:


Also short-term myopic thinking that ****ing over actual conservative econonomics

Bush slashes regulations on banks -> Banks **** over people (and themselves) -> Big recession and bailouts -> new bipartisan financial regulations -> Trump strips these out.

The market isn't going to fall over but he's removing the safety barriers.
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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:25 AM

If Trump is taken down (rightfully) by anything, it's going to be because of these sexual harassment charges. The main hurdle that the dems have to taking him down for real is how they handle Franken and any other Dems that will be exposed in the coming months. If they quickly get rid of them, they will be able to take down Trump. If they let Franken stay "because he's sorry", like I'm seeing on Reddit and Twitter, then Trump is safe.

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 08:01 AM

I'd personally be shocked if a group of politicians did the right thing, so I'm gonna say nothing happens to Franken, or Moore, or anyone else.

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 12:59 PM

Trump defending Moore. Shocker.

And before anyone accuses me of liberal bias, I should go on record saying I think all of them need to go. Franken, Moore, all of them. They are all disgusting.

Of course that list would also include Trump...

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 01:24 PM

I do think you have a liberal bias, but we happen to agree on this particular issue.

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:28 PM

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The University of Chicago surveyed 42 leading economists and found exactly one who believes the Republican claim that their tax bill will grow the economy. http://www.igmchicag...ys/tax-reform-2

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:31 PM

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And 100% of this bi-partisan panel of economists believe that the Republican tax bill will cause the national debt to balloon over the next decade.

Point is, it is literally impossible to find a credible economist who buys Mnuchin’s claim that his tax bill will go anywhere near paying for itself.

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:00 PM

This article from Jonah Goldberg in the LA Times is pretty spot on.

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:46 AM

the national debt wont grow if spending is cut, spending can't be cut until there is a budget...I don't think this tax bill does enough, I wish there were more personal tax cuts as well the proposed reduced business cuts.

bottom line is spending needs to go down. I would cut about 20% across the board, leave security and defense alone, maybe a 5% to them...probably would have the goal cut everything 25% but might no be possible. it is time the ass clowns from both parties learn you can do the same with less. Business has proved it over the last 30 years our government should as well.
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Posted 22 November 2017 - 10:31 AM

View PostFCP Bob, on 21 November 2017 - 03:28 PM, said:

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The University of Chicago surveyed 42 leading economists and found exactly one who believes the Republican claim that their tax bill will grow the economy. http://www.igmchicag...ys/tax-reform-2

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And 100% of this bi-partisan panel of economists believe that the Republican tax bill will cause the national debt to balloon over the next decade.

Point is, it is literally impossible to find a credible economist who buys Mnuchin’s claim that his tax bill will go anywhere near paying for itself.

Nothing in either of these Tweets would be able to convince an average toddler about anything. There are literally hundreds of thousands of economists in the world and they talked to 42? Did any of those economists ever explain sample size to the young liberals creating this narrative?

Who paid for this polling of 42, of the ever-cliche, "leading" economists? Oh. The University of Chicago? They probably don't have an agenda.

Also, I've already been told by Randy Reed and others that the national debt isn't important. I was told that when Barack Obama took the National Debt from 9 Trillion to 20 trillion. But that's probably not considered "ballooning". Why would it? He only raised it 110%.


All that to say, that the GOP tax cuts might not grow the economy. The same people blasting it now blasted it when W did it. However, when W handed the reins to Obama, no one was worried about the skyrocketing debt. Weird.

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