serge 904 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 certain things should be left alone, I remember going to yuk yuks years ago and one of the comedians entire performance was on people with DS. I didn't crack a smile once and found the entire performance to be absolutely offensive. 3 years ago my good friends wife had a wonderful baby boy with DS. If I ever sit through a performance like that again I would yell you suck get up and leave and make sure everyone sees me leaving. However if the comedian had DS, then it would be ok? Because a lot of comics routines are based on this.. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 No, at very most it's in poor taste. Pretend that we didn't see Bob's post right after this. You're the most 'free speech' guy I know - would you be ok with the Maple Leafs security taking away the sign (or telling him he had to leave if he wouldn't give it up)? Just curious. Pretty sure that the guy was only outside at the rally and not in the ACC. If I was next to him I would have asked him if he knew how wrong his sign was and suggested that he might want to put it away. I'm only a little guy and I wouldn't have run over and got in his face and called him an idiot but there is no way I would have stayed silent if I was close to him. That's quite different of course, thanks for pointing that out. Glad to hear you would've stood up for it. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Really great post that isn't just about the idiot from the Boston perspective. On "Toronto Stronger" I don't hate Leafs fans; I don't hate Toronto. I don't even hate the misguided idiot who brought that sign to the game, because how could he understand the feelings he incurred with his actions? What I hate is that sports-hate was warped into hatred for this city, warped and injected into a space that was supposed to be our safe escape from the reality of all this. I hate that our expression of love and gratitude for our first responders, our doctors and people who got us through the tragedy of the marathon bombing, was changed into a heartless sports slogan, a way for a few idiots to put us -- not our team, not our coaches, not our players, but us -- in the dirt. Sports hate is supposed to be fun. It's not supposed to be personally offensive, it's not supposed to injure anything but fan pride. People shouldn't be getting punched in the head, or wishing cancer on anyone, or playing on the emotional state of an entire city. Sports hate is supposed to be fun. It's not supposed to make anyone who loves the game want to just pick up and walk away. It'd be really great if we could all remember that. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Pretend that we didn't see Bob's post right after this. You're the most 'free speech' guy I know - would you be ok with the Maple Leafs security taking away the sign (or telling him he had to leave if he wouldn't give it up)? Just curious. That's quite different of course, thanks for pointing that out. Glad to hear you would've stood up for it. I am biased as we know...However taking that sign away would be VERY wrong... Its a sign in VERY poor taste..But its not illegal, racist, sexist , homophobic.. Where do you draw the line? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Pretend that we didn't see Bob's post right after this. You're the most 'free speech' guy I know - would you be ok with the Maple Leafs security taking away the sign (or telling him he had to leave if he wouldn't give it up)? Just curious. I would be fine with them confiscating the sign and ultimately asking him to leave the building if he refused...at the end of the day it's their private property and he's a guest there, you have to play by the house rules and the Leafs do have a brand and a broadcast to protect. If he hung that sign on his front porch and someone demanded that he take it down out of respect, I would side with the guy...his house, his rules. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Really great post that isn't just about the idiot from the Boston perspective. On "Toronto Stronger" Love it...I have a term for my "hate"...I "sports hate" the Montreal Canadiens. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 About 15 years ago, I went to the Montreal Forum..Leafs vs Canadiens...My face was painted...Had a Leaf flag in hand..HUGE flag... They said I cant bring the flag inside..I said why..THey mumbled something.. They took the flag and I had to get it on my way out. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Love it...I have a term for my "hate"...I "sports hate" the Montreal Canadiens. but that sports hate has at times moved into things that appear to be real hate whether you intend them to be that way or not and it's important to recognize when that might happen and to tone it down. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 About 15 years ago, I went to the Montreal Forum..Leafs vs Canadiens...My face was painted...Had a Leaf flag in hand..HUGE flag... They said I cant bring the flag inside..I said why..THey mumbled something.. They took the flag and I had to get it on my way out. God Hates Flags. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I am biased as we know...However taking that sign away would be VERY wrong... Its a sign in VERY poor taste..But its not illegal, racist, sexist , homophobic.. Where do you draw the line? Good question. Basically agree with Adam's take on it. It's their private property, and they have a broadcast and a brand to protect, so the standard of what they can confiscate is lower. If we're talking about making him take it out of his home, arresting him for it, or kicking him out without giving him the opportunity to only put away the sign, I would disagree with any of that. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I am biased as we know...However taking that sign away would be VERY wrong... Its a sign in VERY poor taste..But its not illegal, racist, sexist , homophobic.. Freedom of speech would protect him outside the ACC but the Leafs would be well within their right to take away the sign for him to pick up on the way out. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Anyone ever read the fine print of the contract you enter into when you go to an NHL arena? It's on the back of your ticket. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Freedom of speech would protect him outside the ACC but the Leafs would be well within their right to take away the sign for him to pick up on the way out. You would hope that he isn't so brain dead that some other fan wearing a Leaf Jersey with their face painted Blue who told him that the sign isn't cool and that he might want to put it away would get through to him. Yah, who am I kidding. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Anyone ever read the fine print of the contract you enter into when you go to an NHL arena? It's on the back of your ticket. Yes, I read everything. It's a sickness. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 You would hope that he isn't so brain dead that some other fan wearing a Leaf Jersey with their face painted Blue who told him that the sign isn't cool and that he might want to put it away would get through to him. Yah, who am I kidding. I honestly think there are a lot of people out there who do things not knowing they probably shouldn't be doing them. Maybe I'm naive, but I think there's a strong possibility that this guy didn't take the time to consider the human correctness of his sign. Does his ignorance make him less of an *******? There's rarely any one definitive answer. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I am going to go with Dale's side of thinking this guy just didnt think.. Its a very cool play on the Boston Strong slogan..In any other circumstance its really original and positive way to one up Boston.. HOWEVER , in the context that Boston Strong came about, its extremely stupid and insensitive. Maybe he didnt realize that .. Like for example if we were playing the Rangers and there was a sign that said, "the bigger Apple" that would be kind of cool and funny. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The Cleveland Indians attendance is abysmal. How would you feel if someone tweeted this? They should check a few more houses in Cleveland; there's a lot of missing Indians fans. I'm just curious. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'm not offended. Its not smart/funny, and kind of tasteless. (prob just too soon) I dont feel like its degrading anyone, other then maybe Cleveland as a city, so it kind of passes my test for offense. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The Cleveland Indians attendance is abysmal. How would you feel if someone tweeted this? They should check a few more houses in Cleveland; there's a lot of missing Indians fans. I'm just curious. It's far enough away from referencing the actual event that I'm not really offended. It's also far enough away that there really is no humour to it. My judgment is that it is only offensive insofar as any reference to a painful event that isn't funny is at least some parts offensive. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Anyone else watch Bates Motel? Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Anyone else watch Bates Motel? For the mother maybe. Not really. Not into horror flicks shows Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 For the mother maybe. Not really. Not into horror flicks shows It's not really a horror show. Link to post Share on other sites
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