brvheart 1,752 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Again, I ask.. why are they not a christian?You and I definitely have different definitions of Christian. You would see Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, and Adventists as Christians.(not wrongly, btw, as they themselves claim to be Christians) However, I would not. The reason I don't believe they are, is because of the differences, specifically the differences regarding salvation. Adventists believe that you must keep the Old testament law, because they don't understand the new testament and the clear gospel of Christ, Mormons believe you have to be perfect, and then Jesus will save you. JW's are a crazy version of Mormons. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You and I definitely have different definitions of Christian. You would see Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, and Adventists as Christians.(not wrongly, btw, as they themselves claim to be Christians) However, I would not. The reason I don't believe they are, is because of the differences, specifically the differences regarding salvation. Adventists believe that you must keep the Old testament law, because they don't understand the new testament and the clear gospel of Christ, Mormons believe you have to be perfect, and then Jesus will save you. JW's are a crazy version of Mormons.But, as clearly stated above, they believe salvation is only through Christ's grace alone, through faith in his resurrection. Sure, they keep a bunch of old testament laws, but aren't the just doing a bunch of extra stuff, that you don't believe is necessary? Isn't the Christ/faith/grace thing what makes you a christian? Or do you believe, because they still keep old testament laws, that somehow nullifies their faith? Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 But, as clearly stated above, they believe salvation is only through Christ's grace alone, through faith in his resurrection. Sure, they keep a bunch of old testament laws, but aren't the just doing a bunch of extra stuff, that you don't believe is necessary? Isn't the Christ/faith/grace thing what makes you a christian? Or do you believe, because they still keep old testament laws, that somehow nullifies their faith?It's more than just that. They believe that you MUST keep the OT laws to be saved. You must attend their churches. You must go on Saturday, not Sunday. And you must believe that one of their founders was a true prophet of God, and everything she said is absolute truth. However, Deuteronomy explains how you know if someone is a false prophet, one thing being that their prophecies don't come true. Ellen White made a bunch of prophecies that didn't come true. That, by definition, means she is a false prophet and that her church is a cult.The same goes for Joesph Smith and all his false prophesies, and the Jehovah Witnesses Watchtower organization and their hundreds of false prophecies about the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 She'd be 8500 times more attractive than she is if she lost about 40 pounds too, as long as we're talking about how fatty fat fat they are.Yeah, she hits two of my favs, glasses and a ginger. For her size, she needs bigger boobs, but I'd bang the Jesus right out of her. Or try Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I always thought Brv liked haggis. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_ScotsmanExcept in this case we are talking about two different things. I'm not talking about someone who is part of a religion that has something to do with Jesus. I'm talking about someone who believes in the message Jesus gave us in the New Testament. I don't care at all about the label "Christian", per se. I'm a Christ-follower. Not a "christian". Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I'm not trying to impress you. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I'm not trying to impress you.Why not? Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 *shrug* Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 and thus ends every religious argument ever Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 and thus ends every religious argument everOh, good, I'm glad those are finally over with. They were getting pretty annoying. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Edit: Never mind. It's over. Link to post Share on other sites
ChicagoPhil 1 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I believe you are God Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 So that's what happened to Tebow. God does work in mysterious ways. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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