2012 Elections

[Balloon guy 158]

Most of the Christians I know would find her very extreme. I live in godless, fake America though (translation: a city).

I know, taking in 14 orphans and giving them a home is way too extreme.

[CaneBrain 95]

I know, taking in 14 orphans and giving them a home is way too extreme.

Nancy Pelosi is a good person too with a lovely family. I still find her political positions extreme.Political/Religious extremist =/ bad person.I think it is awesome she took in 14 orphans. I think it is less awesome that she thinks being gay is "part of Satan" and predicted when Obama was elected that "young people" would be pressed into "mandatory service" and forced to go to "re-education camps".

[Roll the Bones 74]

I like this line from Jon Stewart

The Daily show episode was hilarious.But on the reigous extremism, I have a question. Bachmann said that God told her to run. Um, as far as I know he told every other Republican candidate the same thing. Now, I'm pretty agnostic about the whole idea of some God/supernatural/alien thingy being the whole creator of the universe. I tend to think it's an unknowable proposition actually, but I tend to doubt the idea. I really doubt that one of these candidates actually got to talk to the Ultimate Creator of the Universe though. So basically it means that at least all but one is actually lying, and most likely all of them. WEll, unless you view God as the big pranxster type that plants dinosaur fossils and such. In other words I call Shenanigans. I think you are just basically willing to say anything to help you get elected. If you in fact use the "Well, I talked to the ULTIMATE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE CARD, then to me you should pretty much be disqualified from even entering the frey. If you can't be honest about such a thing, you really shouldn't have your finger on the nuke button, imho. It would seem much more logical to me for a candidate to say, "Whooah, talk to the UC of U guy? No way! If I could I would ask him to fix the economy, the secret of unlimited energy, (and maybe how to get a date with Mila Kunis) and simply pass it on for the good of mankind or something.

[Balloon guy 158]

The Daily show episode was hilarious.But on the reigous extremism, I have a question. Bachmann said that God told her to run. Um, as far as I know he told every other Republican candidate the same thing. Now, I'm pretty agnostic about the whole idea of some God/supernatural/alien thingy being the whole creator of the universe. I tend to think it's an unknowable proposition actually, but I tend to doubt the idea. I really doubt that one of these candidates actually got to talk to the Ultimate Creator of the Universe though. So basically it means that at least all but one is actually lying, and most likely all of them. WEll, unless you view God as the big pranxster type that plants dinosaur fossils and such. In other words I call Shenanigans. I think you are just basically willing to say anything to help you get elected. If you in fact use the "Well, I talked to the ULTIMATE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE CARD, then to me you should pretty much be disqualified from even entering the frey. If you can't be honest about such a thing, you really shouldn't have your finger on the nuke button, imho. It would seem much more logical to me for a candidate to say, "Whooah, talk to the UC of U guy? No way! If I could I would ask him to fix the economy, the secret of unlimited energy, (and maybe how to get a date with Mila Kunis) and simply pass it on for the good of mankind or something.

Maybe God wants to have lots of people run on the republican ticket to have lots of money to be absorbed by so many republican candidates that the democrats have an easier time winning so that they can continue with their actions to bring down the United States economically while bringing down the world and thus prepare the way for the anti-christ to rise to power.I mean he used a jack ass before to bring about His will in Numbers 22. Maybe he is going to use a whole party of jack asses to bring about the conditions for the anti-christ to be accepted.If I was desiring the United States to fail, the democrat party would be my first choice since they seem hell bent on that desire also.

[Balloon guy 158]

Nah, we still have a couple of decent news sources on the left unlike the righthttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/10/...311514320110810Also, that's not photoshop; it's just a terrible picture used on the cover for underhanded purposes.

Love that you go to Jon Stewart as your 'decent news source'

[CindyLou 11]

Bachmann said that God told her to run. Um, as far as I know he told every other Republican candidate the same thing. Now, I'm pretty agnostic about the whole idea of some God/supernatural/alien thingy being the whole creator of the universe. I tend to think it's an unknowable proposition actually, but I tend to doubt the idea. I really doubt that one of these candidates actually got to talk to the Ultimate Creator of the Universe though. So basically it means that at least all but one is actually lying, and most likely all of them. WEll, unless you view God as the big pranxster type that plants dinosaur fossils and such. In other words I call Shenanigans. I think you are just basically willing to say anything to help you get elected. If you in fact use the "Well, I talked to the ULTIMATE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE CARD, then to me you should pretty much be disqualified from even entering the frey. If you can't be honest about such a thing, you really shouldn't have your finger on the nuke button, imho. It would seem much more logical to me for a candidate to say, "Whooah, talk to the UC of U guy? No way! If I could I would ask him to fix the economy, the secret of unlimited energy, (and maybe how to get a date with Mila Kunis) and simply pass it on for the good of mankind or something.

This is a pretty bad post.

[vbnautilus 48]

The Daily show episode was hilarious.But on the reigous extremism, I have a question. Bachmann said that God told her to run. Um, as far as I know he told every other Republican candidate the same thing. Now, I'm pretty agnostic about the whole idea of some God/supernatural/alien thingy being the whole creator of the universe. I tend to think it's an unknowable proposition actually, but I tend to doubt the idea. I really doubt that one of these candidates actually got to talk to the Ultimate Creator of the Universe though. So basically it means that at least all but one is actually lying, and most likely all of them. WEll, unless you view God as the big pranxster type that plants dinosaur fossils and such. In other words I call Shenanigans. I think you are just basically willing to say anything to help you get elected. If you in fact use the "Well, I talked to the ULTIMATE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE CARD, then to me you should pretty much be disqualified from even entering the frey. If you can't be honest about such a thing, you really shouldn't have your finger on the nuke button, imho. It would seem much more logical to me for a candidate to say, "Whooah, talk to the UC of U guy? No way! If I could I would ask him to fix the economy, the secret of unlimited energy, (and maybe how to get a date with Mila Kunis) and simply pass it on for the good of mankind or something.

She is not lying, she is crazy.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

I think that the reason Bachmann's popular with a large number of Republicans has little to do with Obama. She reflects the views of a large growing segment of the Conservative Base that are very fiscally and socially conservative and she's an attractive package to represent their views even if she will have little appeal to independents.

This is a good point, I wonder if the Libertarians are strategizing on how to appeal to the social conservatives. They have a real shot at becoming significant if they don't alienate them. They need to try and convince them that they will be allowed to exist, thrive and prosper on their merit. This will mean they will have to oppose the gay lobby. They will need to propose to take marriage out of the hands of govt altogether. It will be for Churches to decide how to handle marriage. They can't be consistent otherwise. Reading the "The Declaration of Independents" (I haven't finished it yet), it seems as though they will support the gay lobby at the expense of religious freedom. This is not consistent and may keep me from voting for them. There are several ways to reach out to social conservatives that may be effective without compromising their principles. Some they will never get, but they could get enough to become a player in national politics if they could peel off a large enough slice.

[hblask 1]

This is a good point, I wonder if the Libertarians are strategizing on how to appeal to the social conservatives. They have a real shot at becoming significant if they don't alienate them. They need to try and convince them that they will be allowed to exist, thrive and prosper on their merit. This will mean they will have to oppose the gay lobby. They will need to propose to take marriage out of the hands of govt altogether. It will be for Churches to decide how to handle marriage. They can't be consistent otherwise. Reading the "The Declaration of Independents" (I haven't finished it yet), it seems as though they will support the gay lobby at the expense of religious freedom. This is not consistent and may keep me from voting for them. There are several ways to reach out to social conservatives that may be effective without compromising their principles. Some they will never get, but they could get enough to become a player in national politics if they could peel off a large enough slice.

The Libertarian Party will never become a real player; they are more like a feeder group for a takeover of the Republican party. It is showing some signs of working in the Ron Paul movement, and even a few old-guard neocons are giving surprising positions once in a while. I think Ron Paul is as close as libertarians will get to a viable candidate for a while. It was big news that Gary Johnson got all the way up to 2% in a national poll the other day.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

The Libertarian Party will never become a real player; they are more like a feeder group for a takeover of the Republican party. It is showing some signs of working in the Ron Paul movement, and even a few old-guard neocons are giving surprising positions once in a while. I think Ron Paul is as close as libertarians will get to a viable candidate for a while. It was big news that Gary Johnson got all the way up to 2% in a national poll the other day.

Yes, I didn't mean the traditional Libertarian Party. I should have made that clear. What I meant is for candidates like Paul and Johnson to actually win. I don't think there is any doubt in your mind that Paul and Johnson are full blown libertarians. I will vote for one or the other in the primary. I would love to see one of the candidates reach out to social conservatives if only to say "Hey we aren't a threat to you, we welcome you to worship and raise your children as you please, but you need to be willing to rise on your merit, not aided by the govt legislating a specific set or moral values." That would be a good way to get a conversation started. I don't care how Paul does in the Iowa Straw poll he is not going to win without winning over a good chunk of social conservatives. In fact, I think Rand Paul would have a better chance than Ron Paul right now, because I think Rand would do better with social conservatives.

[hblask 1]

Yes, I didn't mean the traditional Libertarian Party. I should have made that clear. What I meant is for candidates like Paul and Johnson to actually win. I don't think there is any doubt in your mind that Paul and Johnson are full blown libertarians. I will vote for one or the other in the primary. I would love to see one of the candidates reach out to social conservatives if only to say "Hey we aren't a threat to you, we welcome you to worship and raise your children as you please, but you need to be willing to rise on your merit, not aided by the govt legislating a specific set or moral values." That would be a good way to get a conversation started. I don't care how Paul does in the Iowa Straw poll he is not going to win without winning over a good chunk of social conservatives. In fact, I think Rand Paul would have a better chance than Ron Paul right now, because I think Rand would do better with social conservatives.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with all of this. I think Ron Paul is probably 75%-80% libertarian, with Gary Johnson about as close as you can get to 100%. The jury is still out on Rand Paul.Ron Paul is having an effect on the debate, and that will probably be his legacy. He's changing the landscape of the discussion.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

This is a good point, I wonder if the Libertarians are strategizing on how to appeal to the social conservatives. They have a real shot at becoming significant if they don't alienate them. They need to try and convince them that they will be allowed to exist, thrive and prosper on their merit. This will mean they will have to oppose the gay lobby. They will need to propose to take marriage out of the hands of govt altogether. It will be for Churches to decide how to handle marriage. They can't be consistent otherwise. Reading the "The Declaration of Independents" (I haven't finished it yet), it seems as though they will support the gay lobby at the expense of religious freedom. This is not consistent and may keep me from voting for them.

I have no idea what you're talking about in terms of your gay rights discussion above, especially the bolded. Are you implying that gays having rights somehow limits religious freedom?

[LongLiveYorke 38]

This is a pretty bad post.

Not sure why you say that. He was pointing out the pretty obvious and objective point that people who seriously claim to have spoken to a god of some sort are clearly delusional in that regard, and yet it's socially acceptable for people to promote that delusion when running for office. We've all learned to live with that concept, but every now and then it's entertaining to step back and realize how strange it is. I mean, you can believe in the divine, you can believe that the laws of the universe are governed by god, you can believe that he created the universe and all that, fine. But God didn't in person tell Michelle Bachman to run for office. Sorry, didn't happen, thinking so is a little crazy.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

But God didn't in person tell Michelle Bachman to run for office. Sorry, didn't happen, thinking so is a little crazy.

God did tell her to marry her husband and be his beard though. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

hblodgetHenry BlodgetGood question for Bachmann! "Would you be submissive to your husband?" (She says Lord commands this)hblodgetHenry BlodgetBachmann doesn't answer the question. ("As president, would you be submissive to your husband?")

[CaneBrain 95]

Love that you go to Jon Stewart as your 'decent news source'

I, too, find humor in the fact that in this day and age a comedian represents the most fair and balanced news reporting you will find on television (in between jokes).

[Zealous Donkey 0]

I have no idea what you're talking about in terms of your gay rights discussion above, especially the bolded. Are you implying that gays having rights somehow limits religious freedom?

No, I am talking about the gay rights lobby and some of the gay rights political groups that are most definitely trying to effect religious freedom. The gay issues themselves, civil unions, gay adoption, and gays in military ect. don't effect religious freedom. I will give some examples later of the kind of things the gay lobby is pushing that effect religious freedom. They are lobbying for a lot more than just gay rights.

[CindyLou 11]

Not sure why you say that. He was pointing out the pretty obvious and objective point that people who seriously claim to have spoken to a god of some sort are clearly delusional in that regard, and yet it's socially acceptable for people to promote that delusion when running for office. We've all learned to live with that concept, but every now and then it's entertaining to step back and realize how strange it is. I mean, you can believe in the divine, you can believe that the laws of the universe are governed by god, you can believe that he created the universe and all that, fine. But God didn't in person tell Michelle Bachman to run for office. Sorry, didn't happen, thinking so is a little crazy.

So when somebody says God spoke to them, you guys are taking that literally? Like a telephone conversation or something? Why did you add "in person" to the bolded statement? Now I'm curious what you think talking to God or God talking to you means to you. My understanding is that people pray about something, they get a strong feeling one way or the other, and they take that as God talking to them. Now, you can argue that that's crazy, but this is like Jon Stewart and the Newsweek cover. Hey, she's crazy, there's no need to do anything special to try to make her seem more crazy. Let her do the work for you. Because when you start adding things on top that can be argued against, you're giving her a position that can be defended.Another thing that I thought was dumb about that particular post was the claim that all Republican candidates said God told them to run and therefore that meant all but one was lying. Maybe I can get vb to break that down logically. Heck, I bet it wouldn't even hold up to SilentSnow's logic standards.

[LimbaughGod 0]

So when somebody says God spoke to them, you guys are taking that literally? Like a telephone conversation or something? Why did you add "in person" to the bolded statement? Now I'm curious what you think talking to God or God talking to you means to you. My understanding is that people pray about something, they get a strong feeling one way or the other, and they take that as God talking to them. Now, you can argue that that's crazy, but this is like Jon Stewart and the Newsweek cover. Hey, she's crazy, there's no need to do anything special to try to make her seem more crazy. Let her do the work for you. Because when you start adding things on top that can be argued against, you're giving her a position that can be defended.

Don't disrespect Bachmann's very real revelations you bitch. Michelle has said very clearly that God gave her, her husband, and a friend of hers simultaneous visions. That's how she was drawn to her husband, whom she wouldn't have married if God hadn't directed her to. Don't dilute her relationship with God.This is why women are supposed to be silent and not attempt to have authority, they say stupid things. You might want to check out timothy 2:12 before opening your pretty little lips there, sweetheart.

[CindyLou 11]

Don't disrespect Bachmann's very real revelations you bitch. Michelle has said very clearly that God gave her, her husband, and a friend of hers simultaneous visions. That's how she was drawn to her husband, whom she wouldn't have married if God hadn't directed her to. Don't dilute her relationship with God.This is why women are supposed to be silent and not attempt to have authority, they say stupid things. You might want to check out timothy 2:12 before opening your pretty little lips there, sweetheart.

Oh, well I don't know about that. It might be that she really is as crazy as Bones and Yorke say. Is a vision like a daydream or a hologram? Anyway, this is what I heard her say:Henderson: You recently referenced your Christian faith. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, when he announced he would not run, said that he just didn't feel called to do that. Have you had that sort of calling to run for president?Bachmann: Well, every decision that I make I pray about as does my husband and I can tell you, yes, I've had that calling and that tugging on my heart that this is the right thing to do and because it's such a momentous decision, not only for myself, my husband and our 28 children, it is a momentous decision."That tugging on my heart" sounds a lot like having a strong feeling about something.I don't really know what you're going for in your last paragraph. Is that directed to me and Bachmann both?

[iZuma 764]

haha, he called cindy a bitch

[vbnautilus 48]

So when somebody says God spoke to them, you guys are taking that literally? Like a telephone conversation or something? Why did you add "in person" to the bolded statement? Now I'm curious what you think talking to God or God talking to you means to you. My understanding is that people pray about something, they get a strong feeling one way or the other, and they take that as God talking to them. Now, you can argue that that's crazy, but this is like Jon Stewart and the Newsweek cover. Hey, she's crazy, there's no need to do anything special to try to make her seem more crazy. Let her do the work for you. Because when you start adding things on top that can be argued against, you're giving her a position that can be defended.Another thing that I thought was dumb about that particular post was the claim that all Republican candidates said God told them to run and therefore that meant all but one was lying. Maybe I can get vb to break that down logically. Heck, I bet it wouldn't even hold up to SilentSnow's logic standards.

That's surely what she means, and it is crazy. It's another level of crazy when you think he is talking to you with words, but thinking he is doing it with urges or feelings is still a delusion. I'm also pretty sure the christian god would want multiple republicans to run for office. P.S. It's great that akoff is using that other font now, because its a quick visual cue that you don't need to read that post.

[LimbaughGod 0]

Oh, well I don't know about that. It might be that she really is as crazy as Bones and Yorke say. Is a vision like a daydream or a hologram? Anyway, this is what I heard her say:Henderson: You recently referenced your Christian faith. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, when he announced he would not run, said that he just didn't feel called to do that. Have you had that sort of calling to run for president?Bachmann: Well, every decision that I make I pray about as does my husband and I can tell you, yes, I've had that calling and that tugging on my heart that this is the right thing to do and because it's such a momentous decision, not only for myself, my husband and our 28 children, it is a momentous decision."That tugging on my heart" sounds a lot like having a strong feeling about something.

Well, maybe you should do some research before you open your pretty face:

and it isn't crazy. Let me guess, you don't have God in your life. No wonder you like to just talk out of your vagina. Having conversations with God is perfectly normal... for someone who has a relationship with Him. guess you wouldn't know that. Abort any babies recently, or do you let the multiple random penises in you do it naturally?

I don't really know what you're going for in your last paragraph. Is that directed to me and Bachmann both?

just you. Michelle isn't exerting authority over men, she is a vessel for God. This is obvious. Also, she readily concedes that she is submissive to her husband, as is God's will. You might just want to sit back and maybe learn a thing or two before you go about inserting your opinion.

[LimbaughGod 0]

That's surely what she means, and it is crazy. It's another level of crazy when you think he is talking to you with words, but thinking he is doing it with urges or feelings is still a delusion.

Awww.... poor lib doesn't hear God so he hates God. It isn't His fault buddy. maybe if you shut your mouth and open your ears for a little while. God did give you two ears and one mouth for a reason....talk about crazy. Look in the mirror pal.

[CindyLou 11]

Abort any babies recently, or do you let the multiple random penises in you do it naturally?

Abortions are the bomb diggity. I never use contraception because I think it desensitises me and my boyfriend. We just do it unprotected, and whenever I get pregnant (which is generally two or three times a year) I just get an abortion. It doesn't hurt, in fact it kind of feels like a big warm ray of sunshine aimed straight at my abdomen. I feel a great sense of relief afterwards too, as if the baby that would have been is trying to tell me "Thank you, mommy, for saving me from the cruelty, pain and injustice of living. I can relax now in heaven, with all the other globs of inanimate tissue".