****official Toronto Blue Jays Thread****

[serge 904]

I love watching Escobar...and if we played the Orioles every game, we would be undefeated..man the O's suck.

[rcgs59 15]

update with scores added, Go Jays, another series starts tonight in NY

2010 Bet Chrozzo / CardCore / rcgs59Toronto Blue Jays vs New York Yankee's $5.00 / game for series In Toronto June 4 6-1 JaysJune 5 3-2 JaysJune 6 3-4 YankeesIn New YorkJuly 2 6-1 JaysJuly 3 3-11 YankeesJuly 4 6-7 YankeesIn New YorkAug 2 8-6 JaysAug 3 8-2 JaysAug 4 5-1 YankeesIn TorontoAug 23 3-2 JaysAug 24 11-5 YankeesAug 25 6-3 JaysIn New YorkSept 3 3-7 YankeesSept 4 5-7 YankeesSept 5 7-3 JaysIn TorontoSept 27 7-5 JaysSept 28 1-6 YankeesSept 29 8-4 JaysShip it Chrozzo and Cardcore $10.00 to Moi , weeeeeeeeeeeeBet is booked

[CaneBrain 95]

Some guy named Morrow has 15ks and a no-no through 7 and 1/3 innings. Pretty good stuff.edit: ****ing brutal way to lose a no-hitter. Two outs in the 9th and a guy trickles a hit through the right side that deflects of the 2nd baseman's glove. Ugh.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

Some guy named Morrow has 15ks and a no-no through 7 and 1/3 innings. Pretty good stuff.edit: ****ing brutal way to lose a no-hitter. Two outs in the 9th and a guy trickles a hit through the right side that deflects of the 2nd baseman's glove. Ugh.

Morrow has a great arm but isn't consistent.He now has 151K's in 127 innings I think.Jays have some pretty good young starting pitching.

[pezeveng 207]

Its time to move Overbay to the cleanup position and get Wells out of there. The guy has 13 rbi in 2 months and none in the last 10 games.

[pezeveng 207]

Jays will shut down Morrow after his next start against the Yanks, good move by the organization he is a strike out pitcher that has thrown alot of pitches. Keep the young arms healthy for next year.

[rcgs59 15]

Ship it Boys Chris and Seth, Jays took the sersis over the yankee's woot

[mrdannyg 274]

Want to get this started. Jays are looking fun this year, and good in the long run!

[mrdannyg 274]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/a...-napoli-rivera/

The Angels entered the offseason with money to spend and designs on nabbing a primo free agent position player, like Carl Crawford or Adrian Beltre, to invigorate a team that ranked 13th in the American League in wOBA and toward the middle of the pack in UZR. After Crawford inked with the Red Sox and Beltre joined the division rival Rangers, it looked as though L.A.’s most prominent winter move would be adding lefty relief pitching.That changed Friday, as the Angels acquired Vernon Wells from the Toronto Blue Jays for Mike Napoli and Juan Rivera. In picking up Wells, the Angels added name value and spent the cash that was sitting in the club’s coffers. Unfortunately, they didn’t get any better in the process. The team is now saddled with a cumbersome contract for a player who is almost assuredly going to regress next season, and who is entering the typical decline phase of a player’s career. The Jays, meanwhile, get out from under the baseball equivalent of a subprime mortgage and pick up the trade’s best player to boot.Any discussion of Wells begins with his contract. Signed to a mega-extension prior to the 2007 season, Wells has four years and $86 million remaining on his deal. He’ll pull in $23 million in 2011, and $21 million per season from 2012-2014. He could opt out after 2011, but that’s not happening. As Dave Cameron noted, that kind of coin buys quite a lot on the free agent market.It’s true, Wells is coming off a very good 2010 season. He batted .273/.331/.515 on the year, with a .362 wOBA. Even though he rated as a below-average center fielder, costing his club 6-7 runs more than an average defender, Wells’ bat and position made him a four win player. If Wells could replicate his 2010 season in the years to come, then this deal would be palatable from the Angels’ perspective. There’s just no reason to believe that will be the case, though.Wells, who posted a .322 wOBA over the 2007-2009 seasons, boosted that figure by 40 points this past year due to a power spike. He established a new career high in Isolated Power (.242) and came close to matching his best HR/FB in the big leagues, as 14.6 percent of his fly balls ended up in the cheap seats. Earlier this month, Dan Szymborski released a 2011 ZiPS projection for Wells: .265/.318/.451, with a .186 ISO. While that projection is for Wells in Toronto, it gives us a pretty good idea of what to expect. That line would make Wells around a league-average hitter, with a wOBA around the high .320s.Maybe you think that’s a bit too harsh — both Bill James and The Fans project Wells for a wOBA around .345. But even then, he’d be in for a fairly large decline at the plate.Let’s take The Fans’ projection for Wells in 2011 as a starting point for evaluating the return on investment the Angels figure to get. That projection assumes Wells hits about as well as he has throughout his major league career, and that the 32-year-old is a merely poor defender (-6 runs) as opposed to the disaster that his 2008 (-12.9) and 2009 (-16.6) marks suggest.The Fans have Wells putting up a 2.6 WAR season in 2011 (his value as a left fielder, should he move over in deference to Peter Bourjos, figures to be about the same when you consider the change in defensive rating and positional adjustment). Assuming a typical 0.5 WAR per year decline, as well as a $4.5-$5 million/WAR figure with five percent inflation per year, a back-of-the-napkin estimate has Wells being worth $37-$38 million through 2014.Again, he is owed $86 million over that time frame. Shedding Rivera’s salary as well as Napoli’s (while surrendering an asset in the latter case) doesn’t come close to evening things out. Even if you think Wells will perform considerably better through his age 32-35 seasons that he did in his late twenties and early thirties, and that inflation will be more than five percent per year, it’s near impossible to envision a scenario in which he’s worth his contract. It’s like the Angels paid for a mansion on the beach and got a one-bedroom ranch house in the Rust Belt instead.That giggling you hear from up north is Alex Anthopoulos. Not only did Toronto unload a massive financial burden in this deal, giving them much improved flexibility in the years to come, but the organization also added a quality player in Napoli.The 29-year-old is under team control for two more seasons. He recently asked for $6.1 million in arbitration, with the Angels countering at $5.3 million. Napoli never seemed to be a Mike Scioscia favorite, and his catcher defense doesn’t rate well according to Total Zone, which includes stolen bases allowed, caught stealing, errors, pickoffs, passed balls and wild pitches, adjusted for pitcher handedness. But, with a walk rate exceeding 11 percent and excellent power, Napoli has a career .357 wOBA.In Toronto, Napoli can split time behind the plate with J.P. Arencibia, while also getting some time at first base and at DH. He’s possibly Toronto’s best hitter (though Jose Bautista has something to say about that), and a 2-3 win player if he sees more time behind the plate. Arencibia has excellent power of his own, but there are questions about his plate approach and D.Rivera, 32, is more of an afterthought in the trade. He has decent power and could see meaningful playing time in the outfield if the Jays decide to play Jose Bautista at third base, but Rivera’s not very patient and doesn’t stand out defensively, either. He’ll make $5.25 million in 2011.Overall, acquiring Wells looks like a desperation move for the Angels. They missed out on Crawford and Beltre, they had money to pump into the payroll, and they wanted to show that they did something big to compete in the short stack division. Vernon Wells is no consolation prize, however — he’s a decent, aging player being paid like a superstar. L.A. might have created a headache behind the plate, too, as Jeff Mathis (career -0.8 WAR) shouldn’t be starting and Hank Conger, while intriguing offensively, has durability and defensive concerns.For Toronto, it’s impossible not to love this trade. The Jays clear scores of cash, giving a young, pitching-rich team financial flexibility to add other pieces as they see fit. With a cheap, youthful roster, a shrewd front office and seven of the first 80 picks in next year’s amateur draft, the Jays are building the sort of organization that may be able to compete with the AL East’s titans sooner rather than later.

[mrdannyg 274]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article....articleid=12746This is members-only content from BP. Shh....

System in 20 Words or Less: Plenty of recent picks and trades have transformed the system into one of baseball's deepest.Five-Star Prospects1. Kyle Drabek, RHP2. J.P. Arencibia, CFour-Star Prospects3. Brett Lawrie, 2BThree-Star Prospects4. Travis d'Arnaud, C5. Deck McGuire, RHP6. Carlos Perez, C7. Adeiny Hechavarria, SS8. Zach Stewart, RHP9. Anthony Gose, CF10. Aaron Sanchez, RHP11. Asher Wojciechowski, RHPNine More:12. Eric Thames, OF: As of now, this spot might be low, because he could be solid, everyday corner outfielder.13. Dickie Joe Thon, SS: This $1.5 million fifth-rounder has the tools to rank higher, but he needs more polish.14. Adonis Cardona, RHP: The Venezuelan teen got a $2.8 million bonus, but he's raw, but he also has an absolutely huge arm.15. Noah Syndergaard, RHP: A teenage righty with length and projection, Snydergaard needs to tighten up his secondary stuff.16. Henderson Alvarez, RHP: Scouts love his stuff, yet wonder why the results rarely match.17. Jake Marisnick, OF: A tremendous athlete, but he's far away from being a tremendous baseball player.18. Griffin Murphy, LHP: He possesses a good fastball, better curve, and--like many young Jays pitchers--tons of projection.19. Kellen Sweeney, 3B: The younger brother of Ryan has the same pretty swing from the left side of the plate.20. Chad Jenkins, RHP: This 2009 first-round pick had a so-so full-season debut, but looks like future innings-eater.1. Kyle Drabek, RHPDOB: 12/8/87Height/Weight: 6-1/190Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: First round, 2006, The Woodlands HS (TX)2010 Stats: 2.94 ERA (162.0-126-68-132) at Double-A (27 G); 4.76 ERA (17.0-18-5-12) at MLB (3 G)Best/Worst Tool: Curve/changeupYear in Review: The top prize received back from the Phillies in the Roy Halladay deal limited Eastern League hitters to a .215 batting average, and looked like he belonged during his brief big-league debut.The Good: Drabek's combination of elite athleticism, plus velocity, and one of the best breaking balls in the prospect world gives him All-Star potential. He throws an 89-93 mph two-seamer that he can cut or sink, and can dial his four-seamer up to 97 when he rears back for something extra. His over-the-top hard curveball is a plus-plus monster with plenty of bite, and he generates as many strikeouts with it as the fastball. Previous questions about his makeup are no longer discussed, as he came out of Tommy John surgery with considerably more maturity and an outstanding work ethic.The Bad: Drabek has greatly improved his changeup, and while it projects as an average pitch in time, it isn't quite there yet. His command and control waver from above average to below, depending on the outing.Ephemera: Drabek was the highest drafted player ever out of The Woodland until last June, when Jameson Taillon was the second overall selection by the Pirates.Perfect World Projection: He would be an All-Star starter.Fantasy Impact: While he won't compete for strikeout titles, he'll certainly contribute in every category.Path to the Big Leagues: Drabek was expected to compete for a big-league rotation job this spring, but the Shaun Marcum trade makes his path that much easier. Barring a disastrous spring, he'll open the year with Toronto.ETA: 20112. J.P. Arencibia, CDOB: 1/5/86Height/Weight: 6-1/210Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: First round, 2007, University of Tennessee2010 Stats: .301/.359/.626 at Triple-A (104 G); .143/.189/.343 at MLB (11 G)Best/Worst Tool: Power/speedYear in Review: The organization's 2007 first-round pick had the biggest breakout in the organization, competing for the minor-league home-run title before earning a big-league call-up.The Good: Arencibia is the rare catcher who doubles as a run producer. He has well above-average power with plenty of strength and leverage, and he proved that his Triple-A showing was more than just a product of Las Vegas by slugging .677 on the road. Beyond boasting a strong arm, he's more athletic than most catchers.The Bad: While Arencibia has all of the tools to be a good defender, he isn't one yet, as his receiving skills can get sloppy, and his arm strength is mitigated by a slow release. He needs to develop a more patient approach, as big-league pitchers were able to take advantage of his aggressiveness with breaking balls away.Ephemera: In just 23 June games for Triple-A Las Vegas, Arencibia amassed 80 total bases by hitting 38-for-95 (.400) with 12 doubles and 10 home runs.Perfect World Projection: He could be an offense-oriented catcher with 20 home runs annually.Fantasy Impact: Catchers with power are always valuable.Path to the Big Leagues: Arenciba will compete with Jose Molina in the spring for the everyday big-league job, and is favored to win the majority of at-bats when all's said and done.ETA: 20113. Brett Lawrie, 2BDOB: 1/18/90Height/Weight: 6-0/213Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: First round, 2006, Brookswood Secondary (Canada)2010 Stats: .285/.346/.451 at Double-A (135 G)Best/Worst Tool: Bat/gloveYear in Review: The top prospect in the Brewers system had a good year at Double-A before heading to his home country in the Shaun Marcum deal.The Good: Lawrie has the tools to be a star. He's an excellent pure hitter with plenty of strength. While he hit just eight home runs in 2010, his total of 52 doubles and triples shows that there is plenty of juice in his bat, and that's while he's still learning how to drive balls. He's a tick above-average runner and has excellent instincts on the basepaths.The Bad: Lawrie's defense is an issue, as he's a well below-average second baseman with little feel for the position. He has long had a reputation as a player who spends far more time in the batting cage than in fielding drills. He will likely need to move to an outfield corner, where he still profiles well. Beyond his lackadaisical defense, there are other makeup concerns; he has a tendency to sulk following bad at-bats, his overall effort has been questioned by multiple scouts, and he turned down an Arizona Fall League assignment.Ephemera: The 16th overall pick in the draft has already produced a trio of 300 home-run hitters (Shawn Green, Lance Berkman, Lance Parrish). Nick Swisher (192) has a shot at becoming a fourth.Perfect World Projection: He could be a 20/20 corner outfielder.Fantasy Impact: His combination of average, power, and speed make him even more valuable than in real life.Path to the Big Leagues: Maybe the Blue Jays hope that the chance to play in Canada will help turn Lawrie's attitude around, as the talent is certainly there. He'll begin the year in Triple-A, and should be in the big leagues by next year.ETA: 20124. Travis d'Arnaud, CDOB: 2/10/89Height/Weight: 6-2/195Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: Supplemental first round, 2007, Lakewood HS (CA)2010 Stats: .259/.315/.411 at High-A (71 G)Best/Worst Tool: Bat/speedYear in Review: Another high-ceiling prospect who came over from Philadelphia in the Halladay trade, d'Arnaud showed plenty of potential in his first season with the Blue Jays, but was ultimately waylaid by back issues.The Good: d'Arnaud has the ability to be above average both offensively and defensively for a catcher. He's a promising hitter with average-to-plus raw power who could hit sixth in a big-league lineup. Like Arencibia, he's strong-armed and more athletic than most catchers, and is already at least an average defender, with the potential to become even more than that.The Bad: So far, d'Arnaud needs to improve his pitch recognition; he still has problems with good breaking balls. A slow release prevents him from taking full advantage of his throwing ability. Scouts are concerned about the back issues that hampered him in 2010, as catchers plus back issues never add up to good things.Ephemera: Though d'Arnaud is one of 10 catchers ever drafted out of Lakewood High School, only Mike Fitzgerald reached the big leagues.Perfect World Projection: He could be an average to above-average everyday big-league catcher.Fantasy Impact: It will be good, as long as we're also saying “for a catcher.”Path to the Big Leagues: The Blue Jays' catching corps are crowded, and d'Arnaud will likely be forced to Double-A in 2011 despite having a bit of a lost 2010.ETA: 2013.5. Deck McGuire, RHPDOB: 6/23/89Height/Weight: 6-6/220Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: First round, 2010, Georgia Tech2010 Stats: Did Not PlayBest/Worst Tool: Changeup/fastballYear in Review: The Yellow Jackets' ace stayed toward the top of draft boards all spring, and finally landed at 11th overall. He signed for $2 million.The Good: McGuire's greatest strength is the lack of a weakness; he has four pitches that grade average or above. He pounds the strike zone with an 89-92 mph fastball that runs up to 94. He also has two breaking balls: an above-average low-80s slider, and a mid-70s looping curveball that's a much more average offering. His changeup is a true plus pitch with plenty of depth and fade, and he has a clean delivery to go with an unflappable mound presence.The Bad: Scouts wonder about McGuire's ceiling, as he depends on command, changing speeds, and eye angles as opposed to blowing hitters away. He had some tough starts down the stretch last spring, and he needs all of his offerings to work to be effective.Ephemera: McGuire was a multi-sport star at Deep Run High School in Virginia, graduating as the school's all-time leader not only in wins and strikeouts, but also in home runs and RBI while doubling as an all-conference quarterback for the football team.Perfect World Projection: He could be a dependable, consistent third or fourth starter.Fantasy Impact: Dependable and consistent are not the sexiest words when it comes to fantasy baseball.Path to the Big Leagues: McGuire was seen by many as the most polished starter in the 2010 draft, and he should move quickly. He'll likely begin his pro career at High-A Dunedin and move up to Double-A once the weather warms up in New Hampshire.ETA: Late 20126. Carlos Perez, CDOB: 10/27/90Height/Weight: 6-0/193Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: 2008, Venezuela2010 Stats: .298/.396/.438 at Short-season (66 G)Best/Worst Tool: Arm/powerYear in Review: The Venezuelan catcherwas among the New York-Penn League's most impressive players while also consistently being among the youngest players on the field.The Good: Offensively, Perez is very polished for his age. He has an excellent approach for such a young player and rarely swings at bad pitches. He has a quick, quiet swing, and shows the ability to sting balls into the gap, and projects for double-digit home-run power down the road. He has a plus arm and, like many Jays catchers, is highly athletic for the position.The Bad: There are debates about Perez's power potential, as he's not an impressive physical specimen, and his swing lacks loft and backspin. He's still rough around the edges defensively. He also needs to clean up his footwork behind the plate and improve his game management skills.Ephemera: While Perez hit .373/.478/.518 at home and just .232/.319/.368 on the road for Auburn in 2010, both of his home runs came in away games.Perfect World Projection: He would be an everyday catcher with good defense, on-base skills, and a modicum of power.Fantasy Impact: It's likely going to be less than his real-world value.Path to the Big Leagues: Perez will make his full-season debut in 2011 at Low-A Lansing.ETA: 20147. Adeiny Hechavarria, SSDOB: 4/15/89Height/Weight: 5-11/180Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: Cuba, 20102010 Stats: .193/.217/.292 at High-A (41 G); .273/.305/.360 at Double-A (61 G)Best/Worst Tool: Glove/batYear in Review: The high-profile Cuban signee wowed scouts with his defensive prowess, but left questions about his bat unanswered.The Good: Hechavarria is one of the best defensive shortstops in the minors. With outstanding instincts, plus range to both sides, soft hands, and a well above-average arm, he's capable of making highlight-worthy plays on a nightly basis. He got off to a slow start with the bat, but made progress throughout the year by focusing on contact and using all fields.The Bad: Hechavarria's value lies primarily in his glove. Even with his .273 batting average at Double-A, he lacks the power or patience to have enough value for anywhere but the bottom of a big-league lineup. He is aggressive to the point of looking anxious at the plate, and he's also prone to chasing balls both down and away.Ephemera: Hechavarria went just .130 (6-for-46) when leading off an inning for Double-A New Hampshire, but hit .304 in all other at-bats.Perfect World Projection: He could be a plus-plus defender with just enough bat to play every day.Fantasy Impact: There have to be some leagues, somewhere, where defense counts, no?Path to the Big Leagues: Hechavarria will likely return to Double-A in 2011, but he could be lined up for a big-league look come September.ETA: 20128. Zach Stewart, RHPDOB: 9/28/86Height/Weight: 6-2/205Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: Third round, 2008, Texas Tech2010 Stats: 3.63 (136.1-131-54-106) at Double-A (26 G)Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/changeupYear in Review: A right-hander with starting and relief experience, Stewart remained in the Double-A rotation all year, and responded with a good-not-great season.The Good: Stewart is a pure power arm with a 91-95 mph heavy fastball and a nasty slider that features heavy two-plane break. Any worries about his ability to handle starting were erased in 2010, as he maintained his stuff deep into games and late into the season. The Bad: Despite Stewart's stuff, he has rarely dominated, with a career mark of 7.7 strikeouts per nine innings. His fastball can get straight, and he has a tendency to get around on his slider and flatten the pitch out. He's making progress with his changeup, but it remains a below-average pitch. With his fastball/slider profile, many scouts still think he'd be more effective as a potential set-up reliever.Ephemera: No pitcher drafted 84th overall has more then 30 major-league wins and a winning record.Perfect World Projection: He could be a fourth starter or power reliever.Fantasy Impact: It's limited.Path to the Big Leagues: Stewart will certainly remain a starter for now and begin the year at Triple-A.ETA: 20129. Anthony Gose, CFDOB: 8/10/90Height/Weight: 6-1/190Bats/Throws: L/LDrafted/Signed: Second round, 2008, Bellflower HS (CA)2010 Stats: .263/.325/.385 at High-A with Philadelphia (103 G); .255/.360/.426 at High-A with Toronto (27 G)Best/Worst Tool: Speed/hitYear in Review: Gose went from the Phillies to the Astros to the Blue Jays in the course of day. He continued to wow scouts with his tools, but he left them frustrated by his lack of progress.The Good: Despite his statistical struggles, Gose has the best tools of any position player in the system. He's a burner with true plus-plus speed, which gives him outstanding range in center field to go with an equally outstanding arm that has racked up 29 outfield assists in the last two years. He has the bat speed and strength to develop 12-18 home-run power, and he showed an improved approach in 2010.The Bad: Gose is still far more of an athlete than a baseball player, as his game was described by one scout as “lacking any control.” He was caught stealing in 32 of his 77 attempts, and a jump into power led to bad habits at the plate. He needs to realize that his future lies as a speed player with some power, as opposed to vice-versa, as he strikes out far too often for a potential top-of-the-order type.Ephemera: Only five players in the Florida State League had more stolen bases than Gose did times caught stealing (32).Perfect World Projection: Gose still offers plenty to project, with an ultimate ceiling of turning into a lefty-only version of former Toronto center fielder Devon White.Fantasy Impact: Stolen bases are always worth something.Path to the Big Leagues: While the next logical step for Gose would be Double-A, he'll need to prove that he's ready for such an assignment this spring.ETA: 201310. Aaron Sanchez, RHPDOB: 7/1/92Height/Weight: 6-4/190Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: Supplemental first round, 2010, Barstow HS (CA)2010 Stats: 1.42 ERA (19.0-19-12-28) at Rookie (8 G); 4.50 ERA (6.0-4-5-9) at Short-season (2 G)Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/changeupYear in Review: Among the top right-handers in California, Sanchez dominated in a small desert town and fell just short of the first round as the 34th overall pick.The Good: The Blue Jays loaded up on projectable teenage arms in 2010, and Sanchez has as much to dream on as any of them. Long-levered with an ultra-quick arm, he has a low-90s fastball than can touch 95 mph, and scouts think that number will become more consistent as he fills out. He gets tight spin on a classic looping curveball and already shows some understanding of a changeup.The Bad: More than anything, Sanchez just needs innings, and while his secondary pitches show flashes of promise, they're also highly inconsistent. He can get out of whack mechanically and lose the strike zone at times. He's very thin and showed signs of tiring late in the spring, so his ability to handle a starter's workload could become a question.Ephemera: A small desert town in San Bernardino County, Barstow is also the hometown of Green Bay Packers linebacker Nick Barnett and alternative music legend Stan Ridgeway.Perfect World Projection: He could be an above-average starter.Fantasy Impact: He's 18 years old and he has pitched 25 professional innings, so slow down there, Sparky.Path to the Big Leagues: Sanchez is polished enough to handle a full-season assignment at Low-A Lansing in 2011, and has the potential to be much higher on this list a year from now.ETA: 201411. Asher Wojciechowski, RHPDOB: 12/21/88Height/Weight: 6-4/235Bats/Throws: R/RDrafted/Signed: Supplemental first round, 2010, The Citadel2010 Stats: 0.75 ERA (12.0-6-4-11) at Short-season (3 G)Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/changeupYear in Review: A big right-hander at a small school who was expected to go in the first round, Wojciechowski instead fell to the 41st overall selection.The Good: Wojciechowski had some of the best velocity in the draft, sitting consistently at 93-96 mph and maintaining his velocity deep into games thanks to a classic power pitcher's frame and a clean delivery. His low-80s slider features good late break and gives him a second quality offering.The Bad: Wojciechowski's changeup lags well behind his other two pitches, and it'll be focused on in his development if he is to remain a starter. He could blow away lesser college hitters on his fastball alone, so he needs to learn the intricacies of the game like location and sequencing.Ephemera: Former Cardinal Britt Reames, a 17th-round pick in 1995, is the only pitcher drafted out of The Citadel to earn a big-league victory.Perfect World Projection: He could be a mid-rotation starter or power reliever.Fantasy Impact: He should rack up strikeouts.Path to the Big Leagues: Wojciechowski will begin 2011 in the High-A Dunedin rotation.ETA: As a starter, 2013; as a reliever, possibly sooner.The Sleeper: Yet another catcher in a system filled with them, Puerto Rico product A.J. Jimenez hit .305/.347/.435 at Low-A Lansing in 2010 and showcased a line-drive bat and the best arm in the Midwest League, gunning down 53 percent of opposing basestealers.Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/85 or later)1. Kyle Drabek, RHP2. Travis Snider, OF3. J.P. Arencibia. C4. Brett Lawrie, 2B5. Brett Cecil, LHP6. Travis d'Arnaud, C7. Deck McGuire, RHP8. Carlos Perez, C9. Mark Rzepczynski, RHP10. Adeiny Hechavarria, SSDespite ranking him second, I still have plenty of faith in Snider, but I also see Drabek as having a better chance at turning into a star at this point. Cecil is a solid fourth-starter option, but there is not much room for improvement, while Rzepczynski is the same thing, but change that 'four' to 'five.'Summary: The Blue Jays have amassed a wealth of talent at the minor-league level, and now it comes down to execution on the development side. Things still need to go nearly perfectly for them to compete in the nightmarish American League East.

[mrdannyg 274]

What do you guys think about Arencibia? Should he start in the minors? Will Napoli hit cleanup? How much will Snider play? Can our pitching hold it together while the young talent develops?This trade is exactly what I needed to psyche me up for baseball season.

[serge 904]

What do you guys think about Arencibia? Should he start in the minors? Will Napoli hit cleanup? How much will Snider play? Can our pitching hold it together while the young talent develops?This trade is exactly what I needed to psyche me up for baseball season.

JP is a great prospect and he will be a star, however no reason to rush him yet...I think Snider should play everyday..Our pitching is still one of the top in the League IMO..I feel that 2012 is the year that we will challenge for a title...The money that we have saved should be used between 2012-2016 when the pitching and the young guys all develop at the same time..I think AA is doing a great job so far and lets hope he can keep making the right decisions.

[mrdannyg 274]

Baseball Prospectus has a possible projected order:CF – Rajai DavisSS - Yunel Escobar3B – Jose Bautista1B – Adam LindC – Mike NapoliRF – Travis SniderDH – Edwin Encarnacion2B – Aaron HillLF – Juan RiveraAs a fantasy owner of Davis, I would absolutely love to see him hit leadoff. I don't think Oakland gave him enough of a chance, though he is far from a star player. I think I'd prefer Arencibia/Napoli alternate at catcher and DH, with Encarnacion primary bench, while also subbing for pretty much all the corners to get ~2 starts/week.

[pezeveng 207]

Iam really looking forward to Davis batting lead-off thats a no brainer.He will easily set the Blue Jay record for most steals 60-70 in a season My order would be1. Davis2. Escobar3. Batista (it worked last year don't move him to cleanup)4. Lind5. Snider6. Hill (he could be the inning killer or really continue the rally)7. JP or Molina (if JP struggles more Molina8. Encarncion or McDonald (like it or not one of these 2 will be playing 3rd)9. Juan Rivera

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As bad of a year that Aaron Hill had last year, I can't see him not batting second. I also would love to see Snider batting 5th, but I suspect he will be 8th or so and will once again battle inconsistency. I hope not though.

[mrdannyg 274]

Iam really looking forward to Davis batting lead-off thats a no brainer.He will easily set the Blue Jay record for most steals 60-70 in a season My order would be1. Davis2. Escobar3. Batista (it worked last year don't move him to cleanup)4. Lind5. Snider6. Hill (he could be the inning killer or really continue the rally)7. JP or Molina (if JP struggles more Molina8. Encarncion or McDonald (like it or not one of these 2 will be playing 3rd)9. Juan Rivera

I can't imagine McDonald playing 3rd regularly. Should be Encarnacion or Bautista, with the other playing 1B or DH, depending on how Lind does at 1B.I do like your lineup, but I would also guess Hill starts off hitting 2nd and Snider farther back in the order unless he tears up spring training. I would hit Escobar 9th in that scenario, but don't know what he'll do with Rivera, Encarnacion, Arencibia and Snider. Seems weird to have 4 power hitters, including 2 OF and a 1B/DH hitting that far down the order, but I don't see a lot of options.

[serge 904]

I can't imagine McDonald playing 3rd regularly. Should be Encarnacion or Bautista, with the other playing 1B or DH, depending on how Lind does at 1B.I do like your lineup, but I would also guess Hill starts off hitting 2nd and Snider farther back in the order unless he tears up spring training. I would hit Escobar 9th in that scenario, but don't know what he'll do with Rivera, Encarnacion, Arencibia and Snider. Seems weird to have 4 power hitters, including 2 OF and a 1B/DH hitting that far down the order, but I don't see a lot of options.

With Bautista's arm in RF, i hate putting him at 3rd...Love to see him in the outfield

[mrdannyg 274]

With Bautista's arm in RF, i hate putting him at 3rd...Love to see him in the outfield

I know he looks awesome out there, but every defense stat shows him below average, even with a boatload of assists.

[outsider13 0]

Yeah, I really don't think they want Bautista in the infield. I think he will be even more prone to mistakes. It's too bad that they don't have a quality 3rd baseman and catcher though. They really could make some noise if they could address those two spots. Not having a quality catcher though I think will hurt them the most. Banking on Arencibia being good in the majors is a lot to ask of a young catcher

[mrdannyg 274]

Yeah, I really don't think they want Bautista in the infield. I think he will be even more prone to mistakes. It's too bad that they don't have a quality 3rd baseman and catcher though. They really could make some noise if they could address those two spots. Not having a quality catcher though I think will hurt them the most. Banking on Arencibia being good in the majors is a lot to ask of a young catcher

Not sure I agree. Third base is a question mark, but with Bautista and Encarnacion, those are two solid options. Even if Arencibia isn't great, Molina is fine. He won't hit much, but should be above-average defensively. Not much else you need from a catcher. I have big concerns about the outfield corners. Snider just hasn't shown much yet, and Rivera is really just a 4th outfielder. If you aren't getting offence from CF, you need some sluggers in the corners, and ours are looking awfully second-rate. For spots that don't require much defence, having them hit in the bottom-3 in the order sucks.

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Not sure I agree. Third base is a question mark, but with Bautista and Encarnacion, those are two solid options. Even if Arencibia isn't great, Molina is fine. He won't hit much, but should be above-average defensively. Not much else you need from a catcher. I have big concerns about the outfield corners. Snider just hasn't shown much yet, and Rivera is really just a 4th outfielder. If you aren't getting offence from CF, you need some sluggers in the corners, and ours are looking awfully second-rate. For spots that don't require much defence, having them hit in the bottom-3 in the order sucks.

I highly doubt that it will be Bautista though. I think Encarnacion could be decent and consistent, but it would be nice to know where you stand before the season starts rather than "he could be solid". There's also talk of Bautista at 3rd, Encarnacion at 1st and Lind outfield too. Too many option imo. I hope they find what they are going to do quickly.As for the catching, Arencibia could be great, but we also said the same thing about Travis Snider for going on 3 seasons now. Molina is a solid defensive catcher, but he's also an offensive liability. He doesn't bat for average, has no power, and he has zero speed. I don't think the catching position will necessarily lose them games, but it certainly won't win them many. It's just a spot that could be a huge hole in the batting order for them.

[mrdannyg 274]

I highly doubt that it will be Bautista though. I think Encarnacion could be decent and consistent, but it would be nice to know where you stand before the season starts rather than "he could be solid". There's also talk of Bautista at 3rd, Encarnacion at 1st and Lind outfield too. Too many option imo. I hope they find what they are going to do quickly.As for the catching, Arencibia could be great, but we also said the same thing about Travis Snider for going on 3 seasons now. Molina is a solid defensive catcher, but he's also an offensive liability. He doesn't bat for average, has no power, and he has zero speed. I don't think the catching position will necessarily lose them games, but it certainly won't win them many. It's just a spot that could be a huge hole in the batting order for them.

I agree with your assessment at catcher. Arencibia could be a big asset offensively, but is just as likely to be a defensive liability. If it is Molina more than once a week, he is likely batting 9th anyway.The lineup seems to be built for tinkering, even though it isn't Cito anymore. Whatever combination of Snider, Rivera, Lind, Encarnacion and Bautista slot in at RF/LF/1B/3B/DH doesn't really matter, and will probably change almost daily.Gun to my head, I prefer Snider/Rivera in the outfield, Bautista at 3B, Encarnacion at DH and Lind at 1B. The ideal alignment is likely Encarnacion at 3B, Bautista at 1B and Lind at DH, but I think it is important to have Lind learn a position, and I prefer Encarnacion at DH because I like it to be as obvious as possible that is expendable.

[digitalmonkey 929]

Bautista 5 yr/$65 millionhttp://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=354159

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I'm not too sure I like that deal, but I guess it beats the alternative of him leaving at the end of the year. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Brady Anderson and vanish statistically after having a breakout year.

[digitalmonkey 929]

I'm not too sure I like that deal, but I guess it beats the alternative of him leaving at the end of the year. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Brady Anderson and vanish statistically after having a breakout year.

We'll just trade him to Texas if that happens.