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This look okay against a 34/30?feral_cow_icon.gifConverting hands till the cows come homePokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 5 playersSB: $66.90 BB: $50.75 UTG: $51.30 (Hero)CO: $58.95 Button: $51.35 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with :3h:4h (5 players)Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 3 foldsFlop: ($3.75) :5c:ts:club: (2 players)Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50Turn: ($8.75) :jh (2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75River: ($18.25) :qh (2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $9.75, Hero calls $9.75

Hero showed 8h 8c, and won ($35.95) with a pair of EightsCO showed 3s 3h, and lost with a pair of ThreesHero won $35.95

(Rake: $1.80)

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This deserves to get seen by a few more people. From our resident Stupidhead...v1.27Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $1.00/$2.00 - 6 playersButton: $237.98SB: $200.00BB: $60.00

I remember when this thread was all about how bad KJ was at 3betting

He's probably not flatting KJ's raise otf if he had a2. Besides, A2 is such a small portion of his range here, we are never ever ever ever ever ever ever folding the turn. People are stupid, they do

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For value or just to bump our red-line?This is how you get it in good but with less than 50% eq. He's a fish obv thus my flop bet sizeferal_cow_icon.gifDont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Betterfold2me: $30.23 Button BoldBaldy: $17.50 SB tractionx: $24.75 BB Hero: $47.15 UTG MrDougs: $25.35 UTG+1 TheHeartOfOcean: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Kd.gifKh.gif (6 players)2 folds, BoldBaldy raises to $0.75, tractionx folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BoldBaldy calls $1.75Flop: ($5.10) 3h.gif6h.gif7h.gif (3 players)Hero bets $4, BoldBaldy raises to $15, and is all in, Hero calls $11Turn: ($35.10) Kc.gif (3 players)River: ($35.10) 3d.gif (3 players)BoldBaldy showed Ah.gif5d.gif, and lost with a pair of ThreesHero showed Kd.gifKh.gif, and won ($33.35) with a full house, Kings full of ThreesHero won $33.35(Rake: $1.75)
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How can I get it in with big hands, very little equity and hold??feral_cow_icon.gifConverted by a herd of feral cowsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG Aaryferrari: $44.35 UTG+1 Dtrain1031: $8.58 CO Scotty1185: $7.63 Button KYIRYILL: $25.00 SB Hero: $25.31 BB tractionx: $24.75 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Qs.gifQd.gif (6 players)Aaryferrari folds, Dtrain1031 raises to $0.75, Scotty1185 calls $0.75, KYIRYILL folds, Hero raises to $3.50, tractionx folds, Dtrain1031 calls $2.75, Scotty1185 calls $2.75Flop: ($10.75) 9s.gifQh.gif4c.gif (3 players)Hero bets $5.50, Dtrain1031 folds, Scotty1185 calls $4.13, and is all inTurn: ($19.01) 6s.gif (2 players)River: ($19.01) 5s.gif (2 players)Scotty1185 showed Tc.gifJh.gif, and lost with Queen Jack highHero showed Qs.gifQd.gif, and won ($18.06) with three of a kind, QueensHero won $18.06(Rake: $0.95)

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For value or just to bump our red-line?
A good red line = good value betting imo.Also KJ, when is the last time you got money sent to you from FT? Jw if they're paying people yet... they owe me quite a bit of money
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asl;dkjfl;aksdjkf so standard to lose this to a complete moronferal_cow_icon.gifv1.24Cows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersButton LOKIsFISH: $34.08 SB Cunki: $23.41 BB OTPEMO: $6.91 UTG Dudermont: $13.23 UTG+1 Flintstone Pip: $31.11 MP dbdk: $27.28 MP2 andr3yk0: $14.22 HJ hardway2009: $10.85 CO Hero: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with :5c: :qh: (9 players)2 folds, dbdk raises to $0.75, andr3yk0 folds, hardway2009 calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 3 foldsFlop: ($2.60) :D: :D: :D: (3 players)dbdk checks, hardway2009 bets $1, Hero raises to $3.75, dbdk folds, hardway2009 calls $2.75Turn: ($10.10) :D: (2 players)hardway2009 bets $6.35, and is all in, Hero calls $6.35River: ($22.80) :4h: (2 players)hardway2009 showed :ts: :club::, and won ($21.66) with a full house, Tens full of NinesHero showed :3h: :jh:, and lost with a full house, Fives full of Nineshardway2009 won $21.66(Rake: $1.14)how the hell do these ppl always win? mindboggling.

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A good red line = good value betting imo.Also KJ, when is the last time you got money sent to you from FT? Jw if they're paying people yet... they owe me quite a bit of money
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sigh, w/e u got AA.. oh hai der floooopferal_cow_icon.gifv1.24A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersBB KENG-HUI: $12.84 UTG OS Tornado: $42.92 UTG+1 MrFishboy: $25.00 MP Hero: $32.28 MP2 bmarci: $10.40 HJ HANCAL70S: $29.46 CO dreamer_2115: $34.93 Button 3BEPb88: $25.00 SB wew999: $11.35 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with :ts: :3h: (9 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, dreamer_2115 raises to $1.45, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5.25, dreamer_2115 raises to $34.93, and is all in, Hero calls $27.03, and is all inFlop: ($64.91) :jh: :D: :D: (2 players)Turn: ($64.91) :5c: (2 players)River: ($64.91) :club:: (2 players)Hero showed :4h: :qh:, and won ($61.91) with a full house, Kings full of Sevensdreamer_2115 showed :D: :D:, and lost with two pair, Aces and SevensHero won $61.91(Rake: $3)

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poker can ****ing dieferal_cow_icon.gifv1.24Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersCO soccer0815: $26.84 Button brian215215: $18.83 SB Hidroem: $25.00 BB ooootay27: $57.82 UTG ipooallday: $27.21 UTG+1 KarlSpakler: $61.62 MP fin_ire: $25.20 MP2 tyulenev: $22.06 HJ Hero: $26.15 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is HJ with :3h: :D: (9 players)4 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, soccer0815 folds, brian215215 calls $0.85, Hidroem folds, ooootay27 calls $0.60Flop: ($2.65) :ts: :5c: :4h: (3 players)ooootay27 bets $1.95, Hero raises to $4.75, brian215215 folds, ooootay27 calls $2.80Turn: ($12.15) :jh: (2 players)ooootay27 checks, Hero bets $8, ooootay27 raises to $52.22, and is all in, Hero calls $12.55, and is all inRiver: ($53.25) :club:: (2 players)ooootay27 showed :D: :D:, and won ($50.59) with a full house, Sevens full of QueensHero showed :qh: :D:, and lost with a flush, Ace highooootay27 won $50.59(Rake: $2.66)

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IBetToInduceferal_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1 Hero: $25.42 CO Norb Schultz: $12.84 Button _ZERO__COOL_71: $48.68 SB Chiperr: $30.79 BB ilmamba89: $29.84 UTG kubap82: $9.10 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with Ah.gifKs.gif (6 players)kubap82 raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, kubap82 calls $1.25Flop: ($4.35) 2h.gif2c.gif6h.gif (2 players)kubap82 checks, Hero bets $1.50, kubap82 raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $9, kubap82 calls $2.60, and is all inTurn: ($18.55) 7s.gif (2 players)River: ($18.55) 3d.gif (2 players)Hero showed Ah.gifKs.gif, and won ($17.63) with a pair of Twoskubap82 showed Qd.gifAd.gif, and lost with a pair of TwosHero won $17.63(Rake: $0.92)

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Sometimes I wonder how my win rate would be affected if I...1. Just let my opponent have it when he raises me on a dry board and I only have TP.2. Never called a 3bet 100bbs deep OOP unless villain has an absurdly high 3bet stat.3. Made a plan to bet/fold a river, and actually STUCK WITH THE PLAN.4. Didn't fire that third barrel when villain's range is obviously "I haz pair and no can foldz"Just little things like that I think can really affect my win rate in a positive way. Sure, it's fun to outplay people and make big calls/big bluffs. At times, it can even be necessary. However, as I continue to make improvements in my game, I realize how even more unecessary it is to being a solid winner.just my 2 Lincolns

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Sometimes I wonder how my win rate would be affected if I...1. Just let my opponent have it when he raises me on a dry board and I only have an overpair.2. Never called a 3bet OOP 3. Made a plan to bet/fold and actually STUCK WITH THE PLAN.4. Fired more second third barrels for insanely thin value because villain says "I HAS A PEAR"
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4. Didn't fire that third barrel when villain's range is obviously "I haz pair and no can foldz"
Maybe he put the hero on "I haz chipz and no can stop bettingz"
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Maybe he put the hero on "I haz chipz and no can stop bettingz"
Its pretty common for players to only triple barrel super strong or with air... and a pretty standard "response" to equate any pair to top pair bc this is the perceived range... that's why when you do it with a wide value range its incredibly profitable imo
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feral_cow_icon.gifv1.24Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersUTG ScubbaDubba: $44.45 UTG+1 McCoy8889: $26.05 MP Crazy65: $29.00 MP2 ridenrunwv: $9.40 HJ iluv_beisbol: $34.18 CO Svyatzhor: $26.94 Button Hero: $25.35 SB FlyingDongas: $36.99 BB jeffhbh2001: $56.21 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with :ts: :club:: (9 players)ScubbaDubba raises to $0.75, 5 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, FlyingDongas folds, jeffhbh2001 calls $2.25, ScubbaDubba foldsFlop: ($5.85) :5c: :3h: :4h: (2 players)jeffhbh2001 checks, Hero bets $3.25, jeffhbh2001 raises to $7.25, Hero raises to $13.50, is this too spewy? my thinking is that he has a hand like 88-JJ and is wanting to find out where he is or is bluffing with air cheaply to pick up the pot putting me on AQ/AK type hand. also i think that my hand would look super strong 3betting an utg raise then 3betting a 664 flop after getting c/r idk, what u guys think?
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I think holding the A spade makes this a bad scenario for you... also you're pot committed when you 3bet imoI'd let it go the *first* time... if it becomes repeated behavior AK high is definitely good against the range.

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No real read on the guy, except he's more tight than loose. I wanted to slow-play it, but with so many people in, I had to bet them out. feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersBB: $4.96 (Hero)UTG: $1.54 CO: $1.27 Button: $0.77 SB: $2.24 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with :ts:club: (5 players)UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Button folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero checksFlop: ($0.08) :5c:3h:4h (4 players)SB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, UTG folds, CO raises to $0.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO raises to $1.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.85

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No read other than he likes to slow-play when he gets something, or just against me. feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 4 playersUTG: $3.11 (Hero)Button: $4.91 SB: $3.98 BB: $1.71 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with :qh:3h (4 players)Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, BB calls $0.06Flop: ($0.17) :jh:ts:club: (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.12, BB calls $0.12Turn: ($0.41) :5c (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50River: ($1.41) :4h (2 players)BB checks, Hero checks

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Sometimes I wonder how my win rate would be affected if I...1. Just let my opponent have it when he raises me on a dry board and I only have TP.2. Never called a 3bet 100bbs deep OOP unless villain has an absurdly high 3bet stat.3. Made a plan to bet/fold a river, and actually STUCK WITH THE PLAN.4. Didn't fire that third barrel when villain's range is obviously "I haz pair and no can foldz"Just little things like that I think can really affect my win rate in a positive way. Sure, it's fun to outplay people and make big calls/big bluffs. At times, it can even be necessary. However, as I continue to make improvements in my game, I realize how even more unecessary it is to being a solid winner.just my 2 Lincolns
I already do all of the above mostly. One of the first lessons I was taught from RDog was poker is played for money. Doing anything but trying to win money is retarded. The players who have massive egos and try to 5 bet bluff shove at 25nl are not the guys making a boat load of cash in the UGL tables on PTR.
feral_cow_icon.gifv1.24Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersUTG ScubbaDubba: $44.45 UTG+1 McCoy8889: $26.05 MP Crazy65: $29.00 MP2 ridenrunwv: $9.40 HJ iluv_beisbol: $34.18 CO Svyatzhor: $26.94 Button Hero: $25.35 SB FlyingDongas: $36.99 BB jeffhbh2001: $56.21 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with :D: :qh: (9 players)ScubbaDubba raises to $0.75, 5 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, FlyingDongas folds, jeffhbh2001 calls $2.25, ScubbaDubba foldsFlop: ($5.85) :5c: :3h: :4h: (2 players)jeffhbh2001 checks, Hero bets $3.25, jeffhbh2001 raises to $7.25, Hero raises to $13.50, is this too spewy? my thinking is that he has a hand like 88-JJ and is wanting to find out where he is or is bluffing with air cheaply to pick up the pot putting me on AQ/AK type hand. also i think that my hand would look super strong 3betting an utg raise then 3betting a 664 flop after getting c/r idk, what u guys think?
I think holding the A spade makes this a bad scenario for you... also you're pot committed when you 3bet imoI'd let it go the *first* time... if it becomes repeated behavior AK high is definitely good against the range.
I like making the smaller 3bet on flop because it looks stronger but be aware you can never fold. Defiantly agree with NA.Kind of, I would let it go repeatedly before extending my range, FR is a nit factory and I would want a hell of a good read before trying to push against a range that could very foreseeably be just QQ and KK because they didn't want to go AIPF with KK.
No real read on the guy, except he's more tight than loose. I wanted to slow-play it, but with so many people in, I had to bet them out. feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersBB: $4.96 (Hero)UTG: $1.54 CO: $1.27 Button: $0.77 SB: $2.24 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with :3h:5c (5 players)UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Button folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero checksFlop: ($0.08) :D:qh:jh (4 players)SB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, UTG folds, CO raises to $0.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO raises to $1.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.85
Fine, no real wrong way to play it. I would probably call the flop raise to keep in bluffs but I doubt he is bluffing often.
No read other than he likes to slow-play when he gets something, or just against me. feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 4 playersUTG: $3.11 (Hero)Button: $4.91 SB: $3.98 BB: $1.71 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with :club::D (4 players)Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, BB calls $0.06Flop: ($0.17) :ts :ts :club: (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.12, BB calls $0.12Turn: ($0.41) :D (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50River: ($1.41) :4h (2 players)BB checks, Hero checks
nice hand.
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No read other than he likes to slow-play when he gets something, or just against me. feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 4 playersUTG: $3.11 (Hero)Button: $4.91 SB: $3.98 BB: $1.71 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with :qh:3h (4 players)Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, BB calls $0.06Flop: ($0.17) :jh:ts:club: (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.12, BB calls $0.12Turn: ($0.41) :5c (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50River: ($1.41) :4h (2 players)BB checks, Hero checks
I like most of it. Curious on why overbet the turn? Are you wanting to get stacks in on the river with a pair of 9's? I think I prefer betting 30-35. Still makes it wrong for him to pay when chasing the flush. Keeps the pot a bit smaller if he does have a T. As you say he slow plays when he hits hands.Kosin Trouble
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How can I get it in with big hands, very little equity and hold??feral_cow_icon.gifConverted by a herd of feral cowsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG Aaryferrari: $44.35 UTG+1 Dtrain1031: $8.58 CO Scotty1185: $7.63 Button KYIRYILL: $25.00 SB Hero: $25.31 BB tractionx: $24.75 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Qs.gifQd.gif (6 players)Aaryferrari folds, Dtrain1031 raises to $0.75, Scotty1185 calls $0.75, KYIRYILL folds, Hero raises to $3.50, tractionx folds, Dtrain1031 calls $2.75, Scotty1185 calls $2.75Flop: ($10.75) 9s.gifQh.gif4c.gif (3 players)Hero bets $5.50, Dtrain1031 folds, Scotty1185 calls $4.13, and is all inTurn: ($19.01) 6s.gif (2 players)River: ($19.01) 5s.gif (2 players)Scotty1185 showed Tc.gifJh.gif, and lost with Queen Jack highHero showed Qs.gifQd.gif, and won ($18.06) with three of a kind, QueensHero won $18.06(Rake: $0.95)
absridic holdbe back to pokerz soon. very busy lately.
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