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hand-reading gone wrong against an aggro reg:Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB ($41.25)BB ($28.27)UTG ($84.27)Hero (Button) ($36.33)Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 :club:, A :D1 fold, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 foldFlop: ($1.75) Q :4h, 8 :5c, K :D(2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($1.75) 9 :D(2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($1.75) 5 :3h(2 players)SB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25Total pot: $4.25 | Rake: $0.21Results:Hero had 9 :ts, A :D (one pair, nines).SB had 10 :qh, J :jh (flush, Queen high).Outcome: SB won $4.04

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This deserves to get seen by a few more people. From our resident Stupidhead...v1.27Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $1.00/$2.00 - 6 playersButton: $237.98SB: $200.00BB: $60.00

I remember when this thread was all about how bad KJ was at 3betting

He's probably not flatting KJ's raise otf if he had a2. Besides, A2 is such a small portion of his range here, we are never ever ever ever ever ever ever folding the turn. People are stupid, they do

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gonna d/l those and many more. ty siredit: nevermind, apparently you can't d/l them if you aren't a premium member.
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Today's lesson:When you get 3bet when you raise with those suited straight making hands, be sure to always call, even when you're out of posistion.This way you can possibly make the elusive well disguised floosh, and win your opponent's stack, oh wait...feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersButton: $50.00 (Hero)SB: $48.70 BB: $84.40 UTG: $153.15 UTG+1: $49.25 CO: $52.50 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with :D:jh (6 players)UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3Flop: ($9.75) :D:4h:ts (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG calls $5.50Turn: ($20.75) :qh (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $11, UTG raises to $143.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $29 and is all-inRiver: ($100.75) :3h (2 players)Hero showed :D :D, and won ($97.75) with a flush, Queen highUTG showed :5c:club:, and lost with a flush, Jack highHero won $97.75(Rake: $3)

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I am gonna win soon. I promise.feral_cow_icon.gifbeware the feral cow packs. they hunger.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB Harrahs7: $27.11 BB STTACKEM BIG: $25.00 UTG xxpiscisxx: $25.00 UTG+1 Hero: $25.97 CO futbol426: $26.02 Button MeCatchEm: $26.60 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with Jh.gifJc.gif (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, futbol426 folds, MeCatchEm calls $0.75, Harrahs7 calls $0.65, xxpiscisxx foldsFlop: ($2.50) 8d.gifJd.gifAs.gif (4 players)Harrahs7 checks, Hero bets $1.50, MeCatchEm calls $1.50, Harrahs7 calls $1.50Turn: ($7.00) Ac.gif (4 players)Harrahs7 checks, Hero bets $4.75, MeCatchEm folds, Harrahs7 raises to $9.50, Hero raises to $23.72, and is all in, Harrahs7 calls $14.22River: ($54.44) 9h.gif (3 players)Harrahs7 showed 8s.gifAd.gif, and won ($51.72) with a full house, Aces full of EightsHero showed Jh.gifJc.gif, and lost with a full house, Jacks full of AcesHarrahs7 won $51.72(Rake: $2.72)guess I should c-bet a bit larger... $1.75 or so... maybe vs the clowns I play I should just mash pot whenever I have a value hand.
I would make it 2 dollars. I would also just bet 5 on the turn , like that 25c is fooling anyone :D
hand-reading gone wrong against an aggro reg:Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB ($41.25)BB ($28.27)UTG ($84.27)Hero (Button) ($36.33)Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 :club:, A :D1 fold, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 foldFlop: ($1.75) Q :4h, 8 :5c, K :D(2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($1.75) 9 :D(2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($1.75) 5 :3h(2 players)SB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25Total pot: $4.25 | Rake: $0.21Results:Hero had 9 :ts, A :D (one pair, nines).SB had 10 :qh, J :jh (flush, Queen high).Outcome: SB won $4.04
I would fold because if he was to bluff it would be on the turn. After checking twice and betting he has something.
Today's lesson:When you get 3bet when you raise with those suited straight making hands, be sure to always call, even when you're out of posistion.This way you can possibly make the elusive well disguised floosh, and win your opponent's stack, oh wait...feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersButton: $50.00 (Hero)SB: $48.70 BB: $84.40 UTG: $153.15 UTG+1: $49.25 CO: $52.50 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with :3d:jh (6 players)UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3Flop: ($9.75) :D:4h:ts (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG calls $5.50Turn: ($20.75) :qh (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $11, UTG raises to $143.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $29 and is all-inRiver: ($100.75) :3h (2 players)Hero showed :7s:qc, and won ($97.75) with a flush, Queen highUTG showed :5c:club:, and lost with a flush, Jack highHero won $97.75(Rake: $3)
How do you have a better flush here?!?!? This blows my mind
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How do you have a better flush here?!?!? This blows my mind
Since the Q and J of diamonds were locked up, and the most likely hand with the A or K of diamonds is AK (which he probably 4bets pre).So unless he was going to defend Ad10d or Kd10d, I think I should have the nuts here the majority of the time.
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Since the Q and J of diamonds were locked up, and the most likely hand with the A or K of diamonds is AK (which he probably 4bets pre).So unless he was going to defend Ad10d or Kd10d, I think I should have the nuts here the majority of the time.
he has 85ddHow can you rule out any combos of suited anything? I am not suggesting fold or anything I am just surprised
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I would fold because if he was to bluff it would be on the turn. After checking twice and betting he has something.
I had trouble believing he'd check the turn w/ the nuts or a FD or a better pair or basically anythingshows what I know.
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I had trouble believing he'd check the turn w/ the nuts or a FD or a better pair or basically anythingshows what I know.
He won't do it all the time, but he will some of the time. When you check the flop and bet the turn, Some villains will c/r because you can't have the nuts and "their line doesn't make sense" so regs are more likely to call them down light. Even though most people just won't take this line as a bluff ever and are more likely to c/f a flush draw then c/r it. Doesn't stop people going "I have the top of my range" and getting pwn'ed hard. I think that when you check the flop, alot of the people who take this line will not often have a hand that can call two streets (you had air and turned a hand you still couldn't call two streets with) so most villains with air will just bet the turn. If they don't bet the turn it because they have weak show down value (Qx,JJ-22) or think that you are too likely to call down (ch flop with KJ,KT,QJ,QT and not going anywhere) So on the river, when they bet they either have a monster hand that failed the c/r(very rarely), A hand like Qx that has the easiest value bet of all time imo (a good amount) or air that decided while you were to likely to call down two streets if they bet turn, that just betting river should work (unlikely)
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Playing low limits and actually having to value bet 100% of the time is ****ing hard.
No it isn't. Buy one of those hand ranking charts, pretend you are playing bingo and watch a movie.
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yo dudeWhy's it hard?
Cuz of what fighter said
No it isn't. Buy one of those hand ranking charts, pretend you are playing bingo and watch a movie.
Movie might help. Iono I just get annoyed because at times I forget that I'm not playing actual poker and people are just looking at their cards and not even doing that right. I accidentally start thinking if I'm being floated, or squeezed, or if I should double barrel, and have to maintain discipline to remember no... they does stuff cuz "i hasses XY and Z could come ooh looky PURTY PURTY CARDS"
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Villain is 83/4/1.92 over 50 hands. 0 3bet, 38% fold to cbet. 16% c/r flopNow in hindsight I think I should have bet the turn. In game I was like zomg showdown value! But we have soooo much equity I think checking is a big mistake.Now if I was to bet the turn (we have a psb) should I shovel or bet like $5??On the river? What kind of hands can he have that c/r flop, call a flop 3b and bet this river. feral_cow_icon.gifv1.24Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB fleezy22: $33.29 BB ganibablo100: $45.16 UTG Patience Kills: $39.01 UTG+1 i bend u over: $24.95 CO Hero: $25.00 Button Achilles813: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with :ts: :jh: (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Achilles813 folds, fleezy22 calls $0.65, ganibablo100 foldsFlop: ($1.75) :qh: :5c: :4h: (2 players)fleezy22 checks, Hero bets $1.25, fleezy22 raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $7.25, fleezy22 calls $4.75Turn: ($16.25) :club:: (2 players)fleezy22 checks, Hero checksRiver: ($16.25) :3h: (2 players)fleezy22 bets $10,
i would have at least 3 bet the turn since he checked
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well he did get the perfect bluffing card...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP ($25.90)CO ($47.37)Button ($25)SB ($19.67)BB ($29.77)Hero (UTG) ($25.35)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q :club:, A :tsHero bets $0.75, 3 folds, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50Flop: ($2.25) 10 :4h, 5 :D, 8 :5c(3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75Turn: ($9.25) 9 :3h(2 players)SB bets $15.42 (All-In), Hero calls $15.42River: ($40.09) A :D(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $40.09 | Rake: $2Results:SB had 4 :D, 4 :D (one pair, fours).Hero had Q :qh, A :jh (flush, Ace high).Outcome: Hero won $38.09

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I'm never confident in these spots. it's just a situation asking to be "coolered." I feel bad felting this hand here, but I feel even worse folding it if we ARE raised. villain's tight and I don't see him paying off much worseFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (SB) ($25)BB ($14.78)UTG ($33.13)MP ($30.15)CO ($25)Button ($25.35)Preflop: Hero is SB with A :club:, Q :5c2 folds, CO bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60, Hero raises to $2.85, 2 folds, Button calls $2.25Flop: ($6.55) 7 :3h, 3 :qh, A :4h(2 players)Hero bets $3.50, 1 foldTotal pot: $6.55 | Rake: $0.32Results:Hero didn't show A :ts, Q :jh.Outcome: Hero won $6.23

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I'm never confident in these spots. it's just a situation asking to be "coolered." I feel bad felting this hand here, but I feel even worse folding it if we ARE raised. villain's tight and I don't see him paying off much worseFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (SB) ($25)BB ($14.78)UTG ($33.13)MP ($30.15)CO ($25)Button ($25.35)Preflop: Hero is SB with A :club:, Q :5c2 folds, CO bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60, Hero raises to $2.85, 2 folds, Button calls $2.25Flop: ($6.55) 7 :3h, 3 :qh, A :4h(2 players)Hero bets $3.50, 1 foldTotal pot: $6.55 | Rake: $0.32Results:Hero didn't show A :ts, Q :jh.Outcome: Hero won $6.23
I tend to just bet/fold unless I have a good read on villain.
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yeah I used to regard TPTK (or AQ here which is basically equivalent to AK since BTN never has AK) in a 3-bet pot as instafeltable. The number of nitty as opposed to hyperaggro regs is forcing me to rethink that outlook. I've not been felted in a spot like this in a while but, judging by how these guys play, it's unlikely that they're just gonna raise here with AJ, unless it's AhJh. Then you have to consider the possibility of a cheap bluff on the ace-scare card, though, if you're min-raised, and the silliness of raising 33/77 in position here. Readless poker Bl0Wz.

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I'm never confident in these spots. it's just a situation asking to be "coolered." I feel bad felting this hand here, but I feel even worse folding it if we ARE raised. villain's tight and I don't see him paying off much worseFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (SB) ($25)BB ($14.78)UTG ($33.13)MP ($30.15)CO ($25)Button ($25.35)Preflop: Hero is SB with A :club:, Q :5c2 folds, CO bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60, Hero raises to $2.85, 2 folds, Button calls $2.25Flop: ($6.55) 7 :3h, 3 :qh, A :4h(2 players)Hero bets $3.50, 1 foldTotal pot: $6.55 | Rake: $0.32Results:Hero didn't show A :ts, Q :jh.Outcome: Hero won $6.23
Something I learned from the oldheads who don't come here anymore (prolly 4bb now). Check 100% of your range OOP when you're the 3bettor and the flop is ace high. Proceed from there and find out why it is lovely.
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