SBriand 4 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 double post Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Doubly tough because the Diamondbacks are the worst (or close) to the worst in the MLB for striking out. Cubs aren't very good either, but nowhere near the DBacks.Without that, I'd go with Richard for sure. San Diego is just goo good. Even with that, I think I go with Richard, but it is close. I can't believe how friggin good San Diego and Cincinnati pitching is. Gross. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Doubly tough because the Diamondbacks are the worst (or close) to the worst in the MLB for striking out. Cubs aren't very good either, but nowhere near the DBacks.Without that, I'd go with Richard for sure. San Diego is just goo good. Even with that, I think I go with Richard, but it is close. I can't believe how friggin good San Diego and Cincinnati pitching is. Gross.Yeah, looking at SO stats by team it makes it harder. I never thought to look at that until your post yesterday. AZ has like 300 more SO than the Cubs.I got ridic lucky on pitching this year. Glad I made that move to drop Mil and pick up SD. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Go against the diamondbacks. Justin Upton is 1 for his last 30 with like 15 K's. this way you get 3 points every time he strikes out, which will probably be 4 or 5 times. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Go against the diamondbacks. Justin Upton is 1 for his last 30 with like 15 K's. this way you get 3 points every time he strikes out, which will probably be 4 or 5 times.I know, man this is a tough one. Have SD in so far but I have changed it 3 times already. Part of me likes that SD is at 2:20 so I can know my pitching score before I leave work. Not that that is a good strategy to winning lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 lol, I've done that before when it is a close decision, just to have something to sweat while I'm at work. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Steve,It doesn't matter who you start because you have a horse shoe up your ass so far I'm not really sure how you get through the day. You must be gay. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Steve,It doesn't matter who you start because you have a horse shoe up your ass so far I'm not really sure how you get through the day. You must be gay.hahaha Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Yeah, looking at SO stats by team it makes it harder. I never thought to look at that until your post yesterday. AZ has like 300 more SO than the Cubs.I got ridic lucky on pitching this year. Glad I made that move to drop Mil and pick up SD.If you can still change, might not want to go with San Diego. Looks like they're resting several starters.lol, I've done that before when it is a close decision, just to have something to sweat while I'm at work.I've often done that, if a game was on TV or something. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Going to watch the Las Vegas 51s take on the Reno Aces in Vegas on Thursday August 26..Fun stuff Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Going to watch the Las Vegas 51s take on the Reno Aces in Vegas on Thursday August 26..Fun stuffSorry you have to be a participant of this league to post here. :)Playoffs start next Tuesday. You gonna participate? Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafs 142 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I guess I'm glad Alex Rodriguez landed on the DL. I doubt my team would have done much damage in the playoffs with the amount of guys I'm down. (Alex Rodriguez, Kendry Morales, Manny Ramirez, Chipper Jones)This will assure that he finishes no higher then Tier 2, and has an outside shot at Tier 3. This was a frustrating season for the Hurricanes, and I hope my team can stay healthy next year.Also Serge, this bet "vs. Serge - $25 - Albert Pujols/Alex Rodriguez vs. Ryan Braun/Chase Utley total Yahoo points (Season) (Min. 290 games played)" is void since Utley missed too much time. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I guess I'm glad Alex Rodriguez landed on the DL. I doubt my team would have done much damage in the playoffs with the amount of guys I'm down. (Alex Rodriguez, Kendry Morales, Manny Ramirez, Chipper Jones)This will assure that he finishes no higher then Tier 2, and has an outside shot at Tier 3. This was a frustrating season for the Hurricanes, and I hope my team can stay healthy next year.Also Serge, this bet "vs. Serge - $25 - Albert Pujols/Alex Rodriguez vs. Ryan Braun/Chase Utley total Yahoo points (Season) (Min. 290 games played)" is void since Utley missed too much time.Wow, that is quite the list of guys who have disappointed this season. Pujols has been alright, but not crazy-dominant Pujols.Is it me or has there been a ton of stars hurt this year? When I look at who'll be in the top 2 tiers, it is amazing to me how many stars are missing, mostly due to injuries.Then again, there's always Joe Mauer who is just sickly dominant in the catcher category. It'll hurt to resign him to like $17-$22/year, but how can I not? He has 24% more points than any other catcher this year. That is exagerrated by Posey's short season and Martinez's injury, but still nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Looks like I will be going to the jays/yanks game tomorrow night. Woo hoo! Do I need to worry about getting tickets in advance? Or will I be able to buy them at the door. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Looks like I will be going to the jays/yanks game tomorrow night. Woo hoo! Do I need to worry about getting tickets in advance? Or will I be able to buy them at the door.You will be able to buy them at the box office.Typical Jays games you can get seats for less than face value from scalpers, however since its the Yankees it probably wont happen.If you go early enough you should get half decent seats from the box office.. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I've been thinking about pitching scoring. The following is for your consideration - I'm sure it can be improved. No changes would be in effect this year of course.My intention is to lessen the effect of pitching overall, and also to make it a little more reasonable/accurate - i.e. decrease the relative value of strikeouts.Given the very significant changes proposed, I also propose that any significant changes would also involve a pitching redraft. Probably all pitching would simply go UFA, but other suggestions will be considered of course. We could also arrange kind of a draft, with a hard slot salary - i.e. first overall pick would cost $5, second-third $4.50, fourth-7th $4, etc (numbers are not accurate).Proposed scoring:Win - 3Loss - 0Hold - 0.5Save - 1Strikeout - 1Walk - (0.5)Hit - (0.5)Run (or Earned Run) - (1)QS - 1BS - (0.5)What does everyone think?Having half-points is certainly not ideal, but it is all I could come up with to lessen the overall effect of pitching. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Having half-points is certainly not ideal, but it is all I could come up with to lessen the overall effect of pitching.Can I ask why we want to lessen the overall effect?In most fantasy baseball Ive done, its 9P+14H=23player team. meaning, pitching is about 40%. By the looks of the scores on most nights, isnt that about right with regards to pitching in FCBL?maybe its just looks worse because we have only 1 "pitcher"?I cant say I follow the pool as closely as you do, so maybe your onto something, but I never noticed.I didnt think we had a problem, although maybe the pitching scoring is a little too skewed towards strikeouts. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Eek, I don't know. I think I would leave the the K's at 2. I also would like to see some reward for CG. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I'm not sure why we want to lessen the effect of pitching either. Pitching is a very important aspect of baseball. I like strikouts at 2 points. I agree that there should be points awarded for complete games, shutouts and no hitters. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 We could definitely add points for Complete Games. Not such a big fan of shutouts or no hitters (too rare, and they are their own reward). Complete Games makes a lot of sense, since otherwise pitchers are basically punished by a lack of hold/save.I realize pitching is usually far more important in fantasy, but we're dealing with 1-2 roster spots. I won't say they have a dominating effect on winning and losing, but it is a significant one.I'd be just as happy expanding pitching to include a bunch of roster spots and actual pitchers, but it seems like that would be very complicating.My preference would be to have pitching have a similar effect as it does in the FCHL. It can and often does effect the outcome, but a good/bad night rarely has a crippling effect on a team.I was under the impression people were unhappy with K's being so valuable, and pitching having such a strong effect. Looks like that may not have been the case. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I personally didn't have a problem with K's being 2 but I like the idea of hits counting against the team to keep things somewhat balanced. I played around a little with the proposed scheme and it sure seems to really lower the pitching score. Not necessarily a bad thing but at time it looks to take a decent pitching performance and reduce it to a batter going 2 for 3 with a walk and a SB. I think the pitching should count a little more than that. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 For what it's worth, I think just adding a -1 for hits and a few points (say, 3?) to the current structure accomplishes mostly the same thing. If that was the case, I don't think a pitcher redraft is necessary, though could be considered if people want it. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Current score/Proposed score/proposed with K=2 hit=(-1)/Proposed with k =2NMH - 15/.5/8.5/12.5Go Bears -11/2/8.5/12DGators - 30/10.5/18.5/21.5Muskrats - 11/(-2)/(-1.5)/(-1)Just picked 2 teams who's pitching lost (NMH, GB) and two who's teams won (DG,MM). Sucks how I would win but get raped on points. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 For me, using my proposed scoring, but with strikeouts still being -2 would be the worst alternative. One of the goals was to lessen the effect of strikeouts, and that would magnify them significantly. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 For me, using my proposed scoring, but with strikeouts still being -2 would be the worst alternative. One of the goals was to lessen the effect of strikeouts, and that would magnify them significantly.I have an issue with situations as seen above where one guys would get 15 but with the new scoring as proposed you would get .5. Why bother having pitchers. In my case I get 11 now but even though my team won I get (-2). I would almost want to never put a pitcher in there because the points are negligible from what I seeing just taking one sample day.If I was forced to make a new choice I would go with K=2 Hit =-1 and the rest of your proposed. Lessens the scores but not so dramatically. Link to post Share on other sites
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