CaneBrain 95 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wait, an ounce costs $375??? An ounce must be a lot more than I think it is, right? That seems like an expensive habit.Anyway, I opened this thread to ask about the following:As of July 2010, even if the proposition is passed, the sale of marijuana will remain illegal under federal law via the Controlled Substances Act.That's kind of a problem, right?An ounce is a lot of weed. In Florida, possessing an ounce is a felony.It is a problem if you have a social conservative in the White House. Obama does not care (and even Sarah Palin said she thinks enforcement of pot laws should be a very low priority). So it might not be a problem at all. Or it could be. We are good until 2016 anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Wait, an ounce costs $375??? An ounce must be a lot more than I think it is, right? That seems like an expensive habit.An ounce is sort of a lot. When I was smoking (its been a long time), I would buy 1/8th of an ounce for $30-$60 and that would last a month or two of sporadic use. As of July 2010, even if the proposition is passed, the sale of marijuana will remain illegal under federal law via the Controlled Substances Act.That's kind of a problem, right?Obama has explicitly said they will respect state law, and since he took office the feds have ceased enforcement in places where states have legalized. For instance, they have not been taking down the medical marijuana places in california which are also technically illegal by federal law. So, its a problem in that the federal government could change its mind. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/01/pod..._gets_ston.htmlit's from jan 27, was linked yesterday and that's how I found it. Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 1/8 ounce costs $60 (on average), and it lasts about a week or so depending on how much Balloon Guy posts. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 1/8 ounce costs $60 (on average), and it lasts about a week or so depending on how much Balloon Guy posts.Facing truth forces you to get stoned?You are the poster boy for why pot should be illegal. Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 You are the poster boy for why pot should be illegal.But what beautiful posters! Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 But what beautiful posters!Darn it.That was the perfect reply.I lose Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Darn it.That was the perfect reply.I losethe guy's a pro Rob.back...away.....slowly.... Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Played poker a few weeks ago with a guy who said his son sells pot on the internet.Calls himself the Spice man or something. He packages the stuff into tight cones, like incense, and sell it as such, lol.He too said it will take several years for the legal noose to tighten for reasons I still don't quite understand. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 1/8 ounce costs $60 (on average), and it lasts about a week or so depending on how much Balloon Guy posts.What a great post.As a medical marijuana patient in Colorado, I can purchase top quality medicine for $50-$60 per 1/8th and $300-$400 per ounce.If I have a relationship with a private grower ('caregiver'), then those prices drop to $40 per 1/8th and $250 per ounce.Think of an 1/8 as a couple of fingers in a baggie, an ounce would probably fill most ziplock sandwich bags, depending on stretch/quality etc. I smoke much, much more than most patients. I would love for an 1/8th to last a month! Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Played poker a few weeks ago with a guy who said his son sells pot on the internet.Calls himself the Spice man or something. He packages the stuff into tight cones, like incense, and sell it as such, lol.He too said it will take several years for the legal noose to tighten for reasons I still don't quite understand.Unless it's some medical related business, then I don't believe that your poker guy was telling the truth. Selling drugs on the internet is not something that someone in the business of selling drugs is going to do. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Unless it's some medical related business, then I don't believe that your poker guy was telling the truth. Selling drugs on the internet is not something that someone in the business of selling drugs is going to do.I agree, the conversation was a little shocking. This guy was kinda pissed off at his kid, not sure why he would make something like this up. He said it was government grade, or some crap. I have no idea if his kid lives in Cali, or even if the story is bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I agree, the conversation was a little shocking. This guy was kinda pissed off at his kid, not sure why he would make something like this up. He said it was government grade, or some crap. I have no idea if his kid lives in Cali, or even if the story is bullshit.Obv if the kid is selling pot illegally, he is doing it as a political statement of his disapproval of current drug laws and his bravery for sticking it to the man is admirable.The fact that he is a law breaking scum bag is a side issue. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Obv if the kid is selling pot illegally, he is doing it as a political statement of his disapproval of current drug laws and his bravery for sticking it to the man is admirable.The fact that he is a law breaking scum bag is a side issue.Maybe once I set a specific example for you, you might stop judging all users of marijuana as drug abusing, non employed law breakers running rampant.What I think most people would be in favor of, but something you'd never agree to, would be the legalization and regulation of marijuana, either for medical purposes or to make tax revenue. You can't say that this product is too harmful to legalize. If you say that, than you are automatically saying that other more harmful substances (alcohol and tobacco/nicotine) should be illegal as well.Anyway, what if growing and consuming of drugs and related industries were like people brewing alcohol at home. While it's perfectly legal to brew your own alcohol, it's difficult to do well, and easy to screw up. The laws and regulations are very very strict. They state that you can purchase your alcohol anywhere, which includes home brewing. However, you can not sell your home made liquor for profit. If you would like to make a profit, then you are subject to the strict guidelines set forth by the government.That's a model that could easily be replicated with pot. It's legal, you can grow your own or purchase it how you please, but the drug dealers, the ones selling for profit, should be taxed and regulated just like tobacco and alcohol are now.Do you have a seriousBG response to this post? Do you have anything non-alarmist? I know it's easy to rehash conservative talking points or blame legalization on crime or something else, I'm just asking you to look at my example and tell me if you think it could happen. If not, why? Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 BG, you've mentioned the drug cartels, mexican drugs here, violence etc as all reasons to keep pot and other drugs illegal. Thoughts on this? I know you'll probably dismiss the source, and that's fine, but what about the words?If You Think Marijuana Legalization Helps Drug Cartels, Think AgainOne of the most enduring disconnects in the legalization debate is the question of what will become of those nasty drug cartels when we end marijuana prohibition. Here's how Tim Rosales of the No on Prop 19 campaign framed it in a debate with Jane Hamsher on CNN: You would just be giving the Mexican drug cartels a platform, a legal platform, to operate from here in the United States. I don't think that's a risk that a lot of Californians, or even Americans, want to take.I think he's right insofar as people do worry about this, and stirring up those sorts of anxieties isn't a bad strategy for legalization's opponents to embrace (particularly given how little they have to work with). But the idea itself is about as brain-dead ridiculous as can be.Here's the thing: criminal drug organizations don't want this "legal platform" you speak of. That's not how they do business. Their product is grown by day laborers and slaves, not master cultivators. Their business strategy is characterized by assassination and bribery, not Facebook fan pages and free massage Fridays. They have no intention of paying taxes or appearing before local zoning boards, and they can't compete with American entrepreneurs who are happy to do the paperwork and can explain where their investment capital came from.We're going to legalize pot, not thuggery. The murderers in Mexico don't possess a single skill that would give them an advantage in a regulated market. Their only asset is a willingness to break the law, and in the unlikely event that they elected to run a legal business instead, they wouldn't be criminals anymore. We will control the regulatory process and there's nothing about marijuana that invites fraud or extortion to any greater extent than every other taxable commodity on the market.If you're still not getting this, let me put it another way: Mexican drug cartels don't sell marijuana because they're passionate about cannabis culture or botany, or because they love stacking bricks of mid-grade in the back of a pick-up truck. Absolutely the only reason they're in the marijuana business is because we gave them a monopoly on it. When we take that away from them, they will make less money and their organizations will get smaller.Those who still can't or won't accept this are entitled to their opinions. But please allow us the courtesy of giving it a try. You had your chance to crush the cartels. Now it's our turn.links at source Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 If they legalize pot, babies will be born with 3 heads. How can you want that.I mean if you get to decide how things will be and then base your argument on that supposed truth, then I get to also.How are we going to deal with the hat shortage? Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 If they legalize pot, babies will be born with 3 heads. How can you want that.I mean if you get to decide how things will be and then base your argument on that supposed truth, then I get to also.How are we going to deal with the hat shortage?So you are saying marijuana will stimulate the economy by increasing the demand for hats? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 So you are saying marijuana will stimulate the economy by increasing the demand for hats?Sure..always look for the silver lining....Well this time the lining is in baby seal fur!Sorry Mrs. Seal about your baby, we needed their fur so we could SMOKE POT Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Don't be fooled by their cute exterior. Most of those seals are terrorists. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 If they legalize pot, babies will be born with 3 heads. How can you want that.I mean if you get to decide how things will be and then base your argument on that supposed truth, then I get to also.How are we going to deal with the hat shortage?What? Are you the same BG that posts in the religion forum? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 What? Are you the same BG that posts in the religion forum?The irony is completely lost on him. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 OMG BG WATCH OUT DON'T FLY! THE DRUGGIES ARE DOING DRUGS IN THE AIRPORTS NOW? WHAT'S NEXT, HEROIN LOUNGES? LET'S PRAY ON IT!http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2010/08/repor...in_airports.php Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 OMG BG WATCH OUT DON'T FLY! THE DRUGGIES ARE DOING DRUGS IN THE AIRPORTS NOW? WHAT'S NEXT, HEROIN LOUNGES? LET'S PRAY ON IT!http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2010/08/repor...in_airports.php THAT IS SO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!How much would a volcano hit help people deal with a fear of airline travel...... Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 THAT IS SO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!How much would a volcano hit help people deal with a fear of airline travel......I use something called an essential vaporizer, which is basically a portable vaporizer. Like this. It's really, really nice. I get the same effect but don't have to invest the cost of a large vaporizer like that. Smoking pot in an airport smoking lounge would be a nice luxury of traveling if states recognized each others medical patients. I think Montana is the only state that allows out of state medical marijuana sales.Plus, Colorado's medical marijuana legislation specifically states you can't medicate outside of your own home, or even in your home where others can see you (think garage or porch). As the law reads in my state, I could possess medicine at my airport, but I can't smoke it or otherwise medicate. I guess edibles would be an option for traveling with dope. I made some banana nut ganja bread this weekend, it's great. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 The irony is completely lost on him.It was lost on one of us.3rd Level...it's lonely here sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites
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