$1k Wsop Event

[cashman 0]

Cashman, I am seeing some poor logic in your posts in this thread. Lets start by preflop. They guy raises 9x to 225. Personally, I don't mind flatting...the guy obv is either 1. in love with his hand and won't fold or 2. scared with his hand and just wants to take it down now (Hands like 88-TT and AK). Flatting allows you to underrep your hand and get players to spazz out with hands like TT QQ AK on raggy-ish flops (like your flop), whereas raising looks so scary, it is possible he would fold hands like TT-JJ and AK. The important thing is the spazz part. It allows him to feel comfortable with a flop and stick it in with TT on an 853 flop or bluff with AK a few times. There is obviously merit to 3betting too, as the WSOP 1k structure IS fast when you get into the 3rd-5th levels...so accumulating chips early is VERY important. By flatting preflop you can raise a flop and get hands to shove into you more often than not...live tell or not. You should never EVER EVER EVER EVER be raise/folding that flop. Yeah, once he shoves you might get the tell he has AA, but you should never be getting yourself in that spot in the first place. As they have all said, by raise/folding you are turning your hand into a bluff if you plan on folding to a shove. You shouldn't EVER be raising the flop, then looking for a tell to decide if you want to call if he shoves...especially since they are not totally reliable. You raise with the intent on calling a shove since as I said, your hand is massively underrepped. -LIVE PRO (right ryan?!)

I completely agree with you. I had no intention of folding when I initially raised him. It was the way he insta shoved and seemed so freaking confident about his hand, even when I verbalized that I had KK. I can't argue that raising and then folding was a good play, it was just the read I got from him that told me I was beat. I wasn't looking for a tell when I raised, I just happened to get a big one. Do you think he made a mistake? If he flat calls my raise then I probably go broke on this hand.

[FARGOpokerND 22]

I completely agree with you. I had no intention of folding when I initially raised him. It was the way he insta shoved and seemed so freaking confident about his hand, even when I verbalized that I had KK. I can't argue that raising and then folding was a good play, it was just the read I got from him that told me I was beat. I wasn't looking for a tell when I raised, I just happened to get a big one. Do you think he made a mistake? If he flat calls my raise then I probably go broke on this hand.

So, in reality, you made this whole thread as a brag post then. You got a live read and folded KK in a spot where you should never fold KK but due to live tells you were able to get away from it. So, I don't understand what the point of asking "what would you guys do here?" when you 1. have a read which we don't know about (and even if I saw the 'read' I probably would still pay off because I can see me trying to convey calm if I had QQ and my opponent told me he had KK) and 2. you just want validation and "omg nice read bro!" from all of us.

[Tehtoe 3]

omg nice read bro!

[cashman 0]

So, in reality, you made this whole thread as a brag post then. You got a live read and folded KK in a spot where you should never fold KK but due to live tells you were able to get away from it. So, I don't understand what the point of asking "what would you guys do here?" when you 1. have a read which we don't know about (and even if I saw the 'read' I probably would still pay off because I can see me trying to convey calm if I had QQ and my opponent told me he had KK) and 2. you just want validation and "omg nice read bro!" from all of us.

Oops, you caught me. I never once said anything about the read I got in any of my previous posts! Well maybe I did in almost every post but maybe you didn't read that.

[Stupidhead 2]

Oops, you caught me. I never once said anything about the read I got in any of my previous posts! Well maybe I did in almost every post but maybe you didn't read that.

absolutely trbl

pretty trbl

turrible

92% trbl

wow, just trbl

crazy knuckle-headed turrible

oh by golly gosh that's trbl

in light of new developments...yup, still trbl

Either way...we all can agree....its trbl

[FARGOpokerND 22]

Oops, you caught me. I never once said anything about the read I got in any of my previous posts! Well maybe I did in almost every post but maybe you didn't read that.

You asked what you should do, we told you, you then came back with "but I had a read." So idk what you want from us...

[TrueAce13 18]

You asked what you should do, we told you, you then came back with "but I had a read." So idk what you want from us...