nutzzcase 0 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Fold Preflop. Raising with AJ there is just silly.not really maybe i should have moved in actually Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 ya I don't open there, I'm almost always folding. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzzcase 0 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 ya I don't open there, I'm almost always folding.really? seems 2 nitty 2 me considering it's the 11$ 250K.....its kinda hard to play post flop due to my stack so maybe an all in would have been better.... Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 $11 25k, with about 600 left, 340 pay. Villain is new to table, any other way to play it? This converter is going to be a cash cow...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($10+$1) t200/t400 ante t50 - 9 playersHJ: t18,876 CO: t21,519 Button: t13,045 SB: t1,565 BB: t28,475 UTG: t5,955 UTG+1: t10,774 MP: t30,711 MP2: t22,186 (Hero)Preflop: (t1,050) Hero is MP2 with (9 players)3 folds, undefined raises to t876, 4 folds, undefined raises to t2000, undefined calls t1124Flop: (t4,174) (2 players)undefined bets t4000, undefined calls t4000Turn: (t12,174) (2 players)undefined bets t8000, undefined foldsundefined collected t12650edit: stupid conerter, he was BB, had me covered Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 there's really no point to open jam 21 BBs utg+1 without antes. Link to post Share on other sites
BenRobbin 0 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Late position raise pocket eights one caller on the button. I bet out 3/4 pot. he raises 3x I call. Then I check he bets out 3/4 pot. Should I just reraise him allin on the flop because its unluckly, but possible he flops the straight, or say flush whatever it is. Is it a winning play to just bulldoze people with made hands if they even have that, they could possibly have overpair or a lower set.Board: 8 4 6 rainbow Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 really? seems 2 nitty 2 me considering it's the 11$ 250K.....its kinda hard to play post flop due to my stack so maybe an all in would have been better.... there's really no point to open jam 21 BBs utg+1 without antes.Yeah 100% this...no reason to raise here w/o antes Link to post Share on other sites
cashman 0 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Nothing wrong with that raise size at all. If anything you could make a case for raising bigger. For turn/river IPITS, you can't fold given the price. MP3 is godawful, no matter what he had.Actually, although it's unlikely, there are a few hands that MP3 could have had that may have made since here. I am sure you are saying he is awful because he just calling and not raising at any point in this hand and I, for the most part, agree. It was 360 when it got to him preflop. He just called so there is a slight chance he had pocket 9s. Of course, if he has 9s he needs to shove and get any flush draws out of the hand if possible. I don't think he just smooth calls a raise preflop w/pocket aces so that is pretty much out of the equation. However, he had a healthy stack so he may have taken a flyer and called w/6d7d, jd10d, or Adxd. Calling w/suited runners preflop would be a little loose, but if he is a fellow small baller, those are nice hands to see flops with. I got my kings snapped off yesterday when the big stack called a decent preflop raise w/7h8h and ran me down w/a flush. I think if he has any of those three hands than he actually could defend his play here. While you could say he just needs to shove after the flop, he is basically committing himself to the hand anyway and he may be able to make more if he hits his draw and just smooths him all the way down to the river. I would have shoved with any of those hands, but I could see just calling at times as well. Having said all that, I have a feeling that MP3 was probably a $4.40 PS donkey who had A5os:) Link to post Share on other sites
nutzzcase 0 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Yeah 100% this...no reason to raise here w/o antesour hand is pretty much like AQ are we folding AQ also here? what about AK? Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 our hand is pretty much like AQ are we folding AQ also here? what about AK?no no, our hand is closer to AQ, but AQ we are raise/calling. AK is like the nuts everytime, so we are raise/phil hellmuth'ing that.With AJ if we raise and get jammed in we have to worry about all the combos of AQ/AK, and then all the pairs obv.AQ we have to worry about smaller amount of combos AK. AJ, even tho its sooted, is just too marginal b/c if we get jammed on we are usually behind b/c no1 should be jamming worse, especially when we raise in EP Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 what about A8? I mean we never get dominated by their broadway pairs and it's still pretty much AK Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Looshle what are your thoughts on the dome? Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Looshle what are your thoughts on the dome?Thunder or Terror? Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Are we checking back flop here, bet/folding, or doing what my amateur self did? Curious to hear your thoughts on this one.$27.50 Turbo $20k, fwiw.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27.5 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds 10 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP2 (t1890)MP3 (t1465)CO (t4175)Button (t1755)SB (t4170)BB (t1950)UTG (t3080)UTG+1 (t1560)Hero (MP1) (t10845)Hero's M: 45.19Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, QUTG calls t100, 1 fold, Hero bets t380, 6 folds, UTG calls t280Flop: (t1000) 10, 8, 8(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets t545, UTG raises to t1090, Hero calls t545Turn: (t3180) K(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets t9365 (All-In) Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 no no, our hand is closer to AQ, but AQ we are raise/calling. AK is like the nuts everytime, so we are raise/phil hellmuth'ing that.With AJ if we raise and get jammed in we have to worry about all the combos of AQ/AK, and then all the pairs obv.AQ we have to worry about smaller amount of combos AK. AJ, even tho its sooted, is just too marginal b/c if we get jammed on we are usually behind b/c no1 should be jamming worse, especially when we raise in EPIn my experience, if you're playing low-buyin sng's, QQ/AK might as well be AA. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Are we checking back flop here, bet/folding, or doing what my amateur self did? Curious to hear your thoughts on this one.$27.50 Turbo $20k, fwiw.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27.5 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds 10 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP2 (t1890)MP3 (t1465)CO (t4175)Button (t1755)SB (t4170)BB (t1950)UTG (t3080)UTG+1 (t1560)Hero (MP1) (t10845)Hero's M: 45.19Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, QUTG calls t100, 1 fold, Hero bets t380, 6 folds, UTG calls t280Flop: (t1000) 10, 8, 8(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets t545, UTG raises to t1090, Hero calls t545Turn: (t3180) K(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets t9365 (All-In) So you're repping exactly 2-3 hands and never getting called by a hand you're ahead of. Pretty sure you should check it back. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 really? seems 2 nitty 2 me considering it's the 11$ 250K.....its kinda hard to play post flop due to my stack so maybe an all in would have been better....Jamming an M of 14+ is never optimal. I min-raise pre so I'll open this depending on table, but foldings probably standard. I'm a bit more loose, aggro then most so I'll prob open more than folding here but you are going to be oop a lot, folding to 3b pre alot, and put in weird spots so just fold when you have the bottom of your range and a stack size thats going to be tougher to play oop postflop. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 Looshle what are your thoughts on the dome?big fan of all things dome-related Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 Are we checking back flop here, bet/folding, or doing what my amateur self did? Curious to hear your thoughts on this one.$27.50 Turbo $20k, fwiw.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27.5 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds 10 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP2 (t1890)MP3 (t1465)CO (t4175)Button (t1755)SB (t4170)BB (t1950)UTG (t3080)UTG+1 (t1560)Hero (MP1) (t10845)Hero's M: 45.19Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, QUTG calls t100, 1 fold, Hero bets t380, 6 folds, UTG calls t280Flop: (t1000) 10, 8, 8(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets t545, UTG raises to t1090, Hero calls t545Turn: (t3180) K(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets t9365 (All-In) I check back flop. All depends on certain factors though. I can check this back bc I balance it by checking back some Tx, pocket pairs, even JJ+. It all depends on your c-bet % and if your table will even notice your cbet%. I'm assuming that no one at this level is going to be aware of that so just check back and eval turn. Having the As helps more than most people think. Link to post Share on other sites
wildspoke 2 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Live tournament question: When evaluating people at your table do you have a routine when sizing up the players? Is there something you focus on more than others?IE - Do you focus more on betting patterns or more on physical tells?Do you try to create a baseline behavior and go from there?ThanksJoe Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I focus on what they are wearing. Any poker clothing, they probably suck a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I focus on what they are wearing. Any poker clothing, they probably suck a lot./e looks down at his Full Tilt "I Eliminated a Pro" t-shirt Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted May 1, 2010 Author Share Posted May 1, 2010 Live tournament question: When evaluating people at your table do you have a routine when sizing up the players? Is there something you focus on more than others?IE - Do you focus more on betting patterns or more on physical tells?Do you try to create a baseline behavior and go from there?ThanksJoeWhat they are wearing/age is huge. Poker t shirts are usually weak tight. Old guys are usually passive. Younger kids who handle their chips well are usually decent. Bet sizing really tells it all imo. Link to post Share on other sites
ddf_dolphins 0 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 is this a bad fold?.. just in the money villian is playing some what tight. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 400/800 Blinds 75 Ante (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton (t152050)SB (t28172)BB (t94274)UTG (t21946)UTG+1 (t43984)MP1 (t24261)MP2 (t42114)Hero (CO) (t74525)Hero's M: 41.40Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 8UTG bets t21871 (All-In), 7 foldsTotal pot: t2600Results:UTG didn't showOutcome: UTG won t2600 Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Don't have the hand history, but I remember most of the details...Blinds are 600-1200 w/ante of like 125 or somethingHero has around 34kVillain has hero covered, but not by muchHero is dealt QQ and is in the hijack I believe.Folds to hero who makes it 2566, Villain in the BB makes it 8800ish.Can we ever flat here in posistion, or are we too shallow to play this postflop?No significant reads. Link to post Share on other sites
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