jmbreslin 0 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Think I butchered this one. Rush, so no reads. Comments on all streets welcome.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comCO ($10.15)Button ($9.44)SB ($21.71)BB ($6.47)UTG ($12.27)UTG+1 ($7.80)MP1 ($9.57)MP2 ($10.52)Hero (MP3) ($10)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 10, 101 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 3 foldsFlop: ($1.05) 7, 9, 8(2 players)Hero bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60Turn: ($2.25) 2(2 players)Hero bets $1.40, Button calls $1.40River: ($5.05) A(2 players)Hero bets $2.50, Button raises to $5, Hero ??? Link to post Share on other sites
Syntonic 0 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 No you didn't. Fold.Also, I would probably bet pot on the turn and I'd be more inclined to c/c the river rather than lead out, but I don't hate it. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 river's a weird spot. I think I like b/f tbh...because although we'd like him to bluff missed draws, he's got the As in his range, and we're blocking many potential straight draws that he could have. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I'm not sure what worse hands we expect him to call with when we lead the river. C/c seems better to me, yeah we block a lot of straight draws but there's an awful lot of spade draws out there. I think a stupid hand like K9 is actually more likely to bet the river when checked to, than he is to call our river bet.I also bet much closer to pot on both flop and turn. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I'm not sure what worse hands we expect him to call with when we lead the river. C/c seems better to me, yeah we block a lot of straight draws but there's an awful lot of spade draws out there. I think a stupid hand like K9 is actually more likely to bet the river when checked to, than he is to call our river bet.I also bet much closer to pot on both flop and turn.This.On the river our value on this board comes from missed draws (ace isn't a great card for it since it connects with nut draws but oh well) not single pair hands. A good ole c-c is in order, and u may be able to fold to a PSB, but even 2-1 on this board is a difficult laydown.Also he's correct about potting/nearly potting super drawy boards with 100% of your betting range... not to mention we have a pair+draw Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 I was a bit lost on the river. I didn't want to check and face a big bet and I thought the Ace would be a big scare card if he didn't have one. I don't think I gave careful enough consideration to the fact that it might have hit his range if he's chasing the NFD, nor that repping the Ace myself would mean I most likely fired 2 bullets with missed AK/AQ/AJ hands. Of course I'm not sure if that is too high a thought level for most 10NL players. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Think I butchered this one. Rush, so no reads. Comments on all streets welcome.I hate your flop bet BTW Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I was a bit lost on the river. I didn't want to check and face a big bet and I thought the Ace would be a big scare card if he didn't have one. I don't think I gave careful enough consideration to the fact that it might have hit his range if he's chasing the NFD, nor that repping the Ace myself would mean I most likely fired 2 bullets with missed AK/AQ/AJ hands. Of course I'm not sure if that is too high a thought level for most 10NL players.So you were turning your 2nd pair into a bluff? It's not so much that the Ace hit his range, it's that now he can't really call with any other pair besides an Ace. If villain thinks at ALL (which believe it or not most at least can figure out this much) then they would know that either you were beating them before with a higher PP, or that you had AK/AQ and just drew out. There's not much else you can be betting three streets with. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 i hate leading on this river, it is a bad card for you, and its hard for you to really rep it to be honest, if we check the river i snap that thing off so quick Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 I hate your flop bet BTWI seriously don't know when to pot and when not to. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I seriously don't know when to pot and when not to.a flop this draw heavy needs to be bet hard to price out the really good draws that may be out there/ get value from the draws that are not folding. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I seriously don't know when to pot and when not to.Flops are kind of like vagina's. The wetter they are, the harder you hit them. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Flops are kind of like vagina's. The wetter they are, the harder you hit them.Sigged Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Flops are kind of like vagina's. The wetter they are, the harder you hit them.hahaha. love it! Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Is that a quote from your forthcoming book, Vagina Poker? Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Is that a quote from your forthcoming book, Vagina Poker?vagina poker is just full ring nlhe ahahah! Link to post Share on other sites
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