Freddec 0 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 don't be surprised if Ga Tech beats Va Tech this weekend.......just sayin.........and I hate Ga TechGO DAWGS Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 well the ACC coastal just got a lot more interesting. Tyrod Taylor has officially entered "you never know what you are going to get" territory.you've officially entered " unintentionally ripping off the sports guy" territory Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Now all you need is Miami to lose to oh, I dunno.. Virginia, to really make things interesting out there. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 Now all you need is Miami to lose to oh, I dunno.. Virginia, to really make things interesting out there.didn't UVA lose to William and Mary? I like Miami at home in that one. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 didn't UVA lose to William and Mary? I like Miami at home in that one.William and Mary--much like Wu Tang Clan--ain't nothin' to fuck with. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 William and Mary--much like Wu Tang Clan--ain't nothin' to fuck with.my little sister's alma mater.Going to the Miami Clemson game today. Definitely Miami's toughest home game left.... Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 why are you blaming randy for running on 3rd and five? he isn't the offensive co-ordinator, he's not making the offensive play calls. Shannon is a great recruiter, and can get you players from Northwestern like Jacory, and believe me that's more valuable to you than a head coach who's a special teams specialistI hope you watched the Clemson game today so you can see why having all the talent in the world wont work with a coach who is terrible. Just the worst coached game I have ever seen. Clemson picked apart Miami's secondary all day and we never changed tactics. No blitzing. No zone. Just doing the same thing over and over without success. Miami was very overrated and maybe the whole ACC still blows.Miami will NEVER win a title with Randy Shannon as head coach. Lots of draft picks sure. But they will never win a title because he will cost them two games per year with his overly conservative approach and his refusal to make adjustments when Plan A does not work. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Jesus christ fans are such doomsayers. If I'd told you that Miami was going to be 5-2 at this point in the season, before the season started, you would have been ecstatic. And now you're ready to hang shannon because Miami has got some press clippings. So absurd. Don't forget this team is extremely young, and will be returning basically everyone, before you go off blaming coaching. Also, if you insist on blaming coaching, you should be blaming the defensive coordinator for failure to call blitzes and adjust the defense, not the head coach. He doesn't call defensive plays. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 It's not as if the HC can't tell the OC and DC no on a play call or call something entirely different himself. He does have the discretion to change the play call, you know.. being the coach and all. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 It's not as if the HC can't tell the OC and DC no on a play call or call something entirely different himself. He does have the discretion to change the play call, you know.. being the coach and all. :rolleyes:Sure a head coach can call or change a specific play, and make big decisions in certain situations. But the play by play game calling, and defense ( and offensive) adjustments are exactly what offensive and defensive coordinators are for. I think (most of the time) a head coach would be doing more harm then good by vetoing a Coordinator all the time changing the plays that are called. There are exceptions to this, coaches that call offensive (or defensive) plays during a game, but they are not particularly common, and the game has been moving increasingly away from them. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Oh.. You're just being stubborn. You know as well as I do that each and every play goes by the Head Coach before it hits the field or as it hits the field. The Head Coach isn't completely blameless, regardless of if it's the DC or the OC making the call. Deal. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You know as well as I do that each and every play goes by the Head Coach before it hits the field or as it hits the field. The Head Coach isn't completely blameless, regardless of if it's the DC or the OC making the call. Deal. If you mean " goes by" in the sense that it zooms right by them, then yes. Head coaches AREN'T play callers. They just aren't. Once in a while you have a coach like Tom Osborne that actually does the play calling (offensively, not both). But much more often You have coaches like Mack Brown or Bobby Bowden, that are the CEO mode, that run the program, but don't really do much game day other than call time outs or make key "go for it " decisions. Almost everything a head coach does that's important doesn't happen on saturday. This isn't the fifties where your play book is 30 plays deep, and the head coach makes all the play calls. You have a large misconception of what a head coach does and does not do if you think Randy Shannon is play calling. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 If you mean " goes by" in the sense that it zooms right by them, then yes. Head coaches AREN'T play callers. They just aren't. Once in a while you have a coach like Tom Osborne that actually does the play calling (offensively, not both). But much more often You have coaches like Mack Brown or Bobby Bowden, that are the CEO mode, that run the program, but don't really do much game day other than call time outs or make key "go for it " decisions. Almost everything a head coach does that's important doesn't happen on saturday. This isn't the fifties where your play book is 30 plays deep, and the head coach makes all the play calls. You have a large misconception of what a head coach does and does not do if you think Randy Shannon is play calling.I don't think saying that Randy Shannon is cognizant of each play before it hits the field infers that he is calling each and every play.. and I really don't know how you came to that conclusion. He has a headset on. He hears the playcall (offense and defense) through that headset. He can change the playcall at any time and if need be, call a time out. Obviously, you can't do that every time a marginal call is made, but there is a reason he wears that thing on his head. Even in 'CEO mode', he's still responsible for what happens on the field. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I don't think saying that Randy Shannon is cognizant of each play before it hits the field infers that he is calling each and every play.. and I really don't know how you came to that conclusion. He has a headset on. He hears the playcall (offense and defense) through that headset. He can change the playcall at any time and if need be, call a time out. Obviously, you can't do that every time a marginal call is made, but there is a reason he wears that thing on his head. Even in 'CEO mode', he's still responsible for what happens on the field. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 :sftrue Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Jesus christ fans are such doomsayers. If I'd told you that Miami was going to be 5-2 at this point in the season, before the season started, you would have been ecstatic. And now you're ready to hang shannon because Miami has got some press clippings. So absurd. Don't forget this team is extremely young, and will be returning basically everyone, before you go off blaming coaching. Also, if you insist on blaming coaching, you should be blaming the defensive coordinator for failure to call blitzes and adjust the defense, not the head coach. He doesn't call defensive plays.Fine the DC sucks. That 5-2 came against a bad FSU team, a ridiculously banged up OU team, and two cupcakes. I know they will be good next year. But Shannon (or the DC who takes direction from him.....remember Shannon was D-coordinator at Miami for year so when the defense stinks I will be looking at him) will cost them a game at some point with overly conservative playcalling.And if you dont think the head coach is in charge of overall adjustments (like the decision to rush four every down instead of bringing pressure) then I dont know what to tell you.Plus, this just continues Shannon's "tradition" of not being able to win at home. When you coach Miami, you have to ****ing beat unranked teams at home. It's unacceptable to drop games at home to mediocre teams year after year.Also, I expected them to be 5-2. I would not have been "ecstatic". Unlike the media, I knew Miami would be better this year because I know from his high school career that Jacory has tons of game. I expected them to win all the games they have won except I figured they would lose to OU and beat Clemson. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anybody who watched today's Miami game against UNC now knows that I am not overreacting and that Randy Shannon is one of the worst in game coaches in the history of football. Atrocious clock management, refusal to blitz, refusal to go to the shotgun, wasting timeouts. It's like watching Art Shell in his prime. Does it matter that you can recruit well if you are so bad at coaching that your team has to win in spite of you? Mark Whipple is equally bad. Someone needs to tell him you dont get extra points for running screen plays. What a goddamn travesty. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anybody who watched today's Miami game against UNC now knows that I am not overreacting and that Randy Shannon is one of the worst in game coaches in the history of football.lol Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 loldid you watch? seriously, everyone I know down here is going batshit about it right now. It was stunning. If you didn't watch, don't assume out of hand it is total hyperbole (obviously it is a little hyperbole). It was a nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 did you watch? seriously, everyone I know down here is going batshit about it right now. It was stunning. If you didn't watch, don't assume out of hand it is total hyperbole (obviously it is a little hyperbole). It was a nightmare.I did watch the game. and yes, it's a little hyperbolic. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 That and UNC just isn't a pushover in football since Davis got there. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Wait until next year, before you send the final verdict on Shannon. Your immensely talented, but young team will all be older. If they don't produce next year, then call for some heads. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Wait until next year, before you send the final verdict on Shannon. Your immensely talented, but young team will all be older. If they don't produce next year, then call for some heads.I dont believe in shuffling coaches in and out. Shannon gets 5 years in my book. But you are right.....if it does not happen next year (when they get FSU and V-Tech at home) then it probably is not going to happen. And my guess is they will blow a couple winnable games next year due to poor coaching. Hopefully, I am wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Freddec 0 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 delete this thread please........this conf just got owned sooooooo hard today Link to post Share on other sites
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