DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 Because I had a plan for guys like Stamkos and Neal just as you probably had a plan for Ryan and Bob for Toews. Bringing in the new rule right away seems somewhat unfair and punishes us for managing our teams under the way the rules were. By delaying the new rule it gives us time to adjust and doesn't take away from the intent of the new rule. If we implement this new rule based on this seasons stats then we should have implemented the Toews rule this year also. And thanks for asking and listening. I agree with you. Had I known about the rule changes I would have called up Ryan and Oshie last year. You make a good point and we'll go with it. However, draft pick changes will change immediately in terms of the salary structure. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 Opening night dilemma, who would you sit?Alexander Semin, WAS. vs TorontoSimon Gagne, PHI. @ New JerseyCorey Perry, ANA vs San JoseOlli Jokinen, CAL. @ EdmontonHenrik Sedin, VAN @ ColoradoAnze Kopitar, LA vs. PhoenixBobby Ryan, ANA. vs San Jose That is 7 sick forwards all with decent match ups, who would you bench?Goalie decision:NYR vs OTTSJ @ ANAVAN @ COL Who would you start? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Kopitar and NYR. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 By the way, i don't think the 3-year max limit should kick in next year. I think it should start the year after that. I kinda of agree with you, what is your reasoning for that? Because I had a plan for guys like Stamkos and Neal just as you probably had a plan for Ryan and Bob for Toews. Bringing in the new rule right away seems somewhat unfair and punishes us for managing our teams under the way the rules were. By delaying the new rule it gives us time to adjust and doesn't take away from the intent of the new rule. If we implement this new rule based on this seasons stats then we should have implemented the Toews rule this year also. And thanks for asking and listening. I agree with you. Had I known about the rule changes I would have called up Ryan and Oshie last year. You make a good point and we'll go with it. However, draft pick changes will change immediately in terms of the salary structure.I think for next year we should make it a 4 year max contract and then 3 years the year after if you don't want to implement it right away. Any time that you change a rule it's going to have an effect and we need to get things going on getting adjustments in our pool as soon as possible to change some of the structural issues that we've talked about.Just because you and Dale would have planned differently is no reason to delay putting in a good rule.The reason for the Toews rule not going this year was a practical one. We would have had to make sure to communicate with all the teams in a timely enough fashion the procedure for it and made sure that the teams that weren't at the draft would submit callups to take place after the draft but before the waiver period. With our transition I'm not confident that would have happend. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 I think for next year we should make it a 4 year max contract and then 3 years the year after if you don't want to implement it right away. Any time that you change a rule it's going to have an effect and we need to get things going on getting adjustments in our pool as soon as possible to change some of the structural issues that we've talked about.Just because you and Dale would have planned differently is no reason to delay putting in a good rule.The reason for the Toews rule not going this year was a practical one. We would have had to make sure to communicate with all the teams in a timely enough fashion the procedure for it and made sure that the teams that weren't at the draft would submit callups to take place after the draft but before the waiver period. With our transition I'm not confident that would have happend. I can use a poker analogy to show why Dale is right. At the WSOP November 9 last year Kelly Kim was the short stack at a 10 handed final table. In the small blind he had a marginal hand and folded, knowing that he'd have a full round to find a hand to play. On that hand a player went broke, so he would have the button 9 handed. All of a sudden the players were told there would be a redraw again! This was obviously unfair and I helped to get the decision reversed. It is unfair to implement a rule that doesn't give a team any opportunity or much time to do anything about it. That's why we also couldn't change the draft pick salaries to $3 this year, because it would make all pre-existing trades for draft picks unfair. Now players have a full year to make those decisions. However, you can't retroactively put players in more games in the previous season so that you could sign them to 5 years. By delaying it one season, we ensure that we give all owners an opportunity to prepare full for the drastic change. There is no immediate rush to implement this rule because you "say so." None of our owners are planning on quitting based on this rule. Most importantly, this rule delay will actually HELP the bad, young teams because now they can lock in some long term lower salaries that will help them become competitive quicker. Think Magically Delicious and all of his rookies. He can get some great contracts in which will help him. Switching to 3 years this season hurts the bad teams a heck of a lot more than the good teams. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I would start Vancouver and bench Kopitar or Gagne. Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I don't really like it's fair for me to offer an opinion on this as I am still fairly new the pool, so I'll leave it to the vets to decide what is best as they obviously have the most experience. The only thing is that whatever the decision is in regards to this, should be done sooner rather then later as it will be nice to know, as it affects on who we call up from the farm and when. Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nevermind, just read the AHL forums, me = idiot Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I don't really like it's fair for me to offer an opinion on this as I am still fairly new the pool, so I'll leave it to the vets to decide what is best as they obviously have the most experience. The only thing is that whatever the decision is in regards to this, should be done sooner rather then later as it will be nice to know, as it affects on who we call up from the farm and when.You're now a full fledged member of the AHL and you shouldn't be afraid to give your opinions on anything.We're all in it together. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Get used to this biiiatches: 1st Period Anaheim 2:00, Corey Perry 1 (James Wisniewski) Los Angeles 3:50, Ryan Smyth 1 (power play) (Michal Handzus, Teddy Purcell) Anaheim 5:19, Bobby Ryan 1 (Corey Perry, James Wisniewski) 2nd Period Anaheim 12:04, Bobby Ryan 2 (Ryan Getzlaf) Los Angeles 15:13, Ryan Smyth 2 (power play) (Anze Kopitar, Dustin Brown) 3rd Period Anaheim 6:40, Ryan Getzlaf 1 (power play) (Bobby Ryan, Scott Niedermayer) Los Angeles 9:04, Anze Kopitar 1 (power play) (Ryan Smyth, Dustin Brown) Anaheim 17:25, Joffrey Lupul 1 (Saku Koivu, Teemu Selanne) Los Angeles 18:47, Anze Kopitar 2 (Ryan Smyth, Trevor Lewis) Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Preseason Leaders in Goals:Stahlberg, Viktor, Tor. 8 6 MUSTANGS ROOKIE Kopitar, Anze, L.A. 5 5 THIEVES BEST PLAYER Simmonds, Wayne, L.A. 6 5 MUSTANGS ROOKIE Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I like to point out..Viktor Stalberg was acquired with the Cheap Thieves 1st round pick..Got Antropov and a 1st rounder for niedermayer last year Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 I like to point out..Viktor Stalberg was acquired with the Cheap Thieves 1st round pick..Got Antropov and a 1st rounder for niedermayer last year Wow so you did me like the Leafs? I'm the Leafs!!! Ugh. Good trade anyway. I don't need Antropov at all but he's good for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Big mistake not playing Darcy Tucker today, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Big mistake not playing Darcy Tucker today, imo. He may be available for trade. Looking for an overaged over the hill d-man like Lidstrom in return. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 When Anaheim doesn't score, that's a problem for my team. Last night my Anaheim players got shut out and I start the season 0-1 despite my OT player Alexander Semin scoring two goals and an assist. Oh well, at least I lost to a good team, Shoot Loose. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 This HAS to be a first! I'm playing Serge's Mustangs tonight and he has the following in his lineup!Jason Blake, TOR.Victor Stahlberg, TOR.Mike Komisarek, TOR.Jeff Finger, TOR.TORONTO GOALIES LOL that is hilarious! My lineup is "a'ight"1. Alexander Semin, WAS. OT2. Bobby Ryan, ANA.3. Corey Perry, ANA.4. Olli Jokinen, CAL.5. Simon Gagne, PHI.6. Anze Kopitar, LA.7. Scott Neidermayer, ANA.8. Marc-Edouard Vlasic, SJ.9. Tom Poti, WAS.10. Greg Zanon, MIN.SAN JOSE Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 This HAS to be a first! I'm playing Serge's Mustangs tonight and he has the following in his lineup!Jason Blake, TOR.Victor Stahlberg, TOR.Mike Komisarek, TOR.Jeff Finger, TOR.TORONTO GOALIESLOL that is hilarious! My lineup is "a'ight"1. Alexander Semin, WAS. OT2. Bobby Ryan, ANA.3. Corey Perry, ANA.4. Olli Jokinen, CAL.5. Simon Gagne, PHI.6. Anze Kopitar, LA.7. Scott Neidermayer, ANA.8. Marc-Edouard Vlasic, SJ.9. Tom Poti, WAS.10. Greg Zanon, MIN.SAN JOSEIs your Anaheim contingent any different..I will crush you tonight.GO MUSTANGS Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Is your Anaheim contingent any different..I will crush you tonight.GO MUSTANGSLOLBobby Ryan, Corey Perry and Scott Niedermayer VS Jason Blake, Viktor Stahlberg, Jeff Finger and Mike Komisarek. I smell a prop bet. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 LOLBobby Ryan, Corey Perry and Scott Niedermayer VS Jason Blake, Viktor Stahlberg, Jeff Finger and Mike Komisarek. I smell a prop bet.pass Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 So far with a half a period to go(here is the jinx) Saku Koivu is outscoring Ryan,Perry and Niedermayer combined. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Oct 8th lineup vs. The Underdogs:1. Alexander Semin, WAS. OT G A2. Bobby Ryan, ANA. G3. Corey Perry, ANA. G G A4. Olli Jokinen, CAL.5. Simon Gagne, PHI.6. Anze Kopitar, LA.7. Scott Neidermayer, ANA. A A8. Alex Goligoski, PIT. G A9. John-Michael Liles, COL. A10. Brent Seabrook, CHI. ASAN JOSE Semin and Kopitar are off to excellent starts this season, but more is expected of Ryan, Perry, Jokinen, and Gagne. It's early in the season, and this could be the breakout game for the Thieves offense. San Jose goalies have been REALLY shaky giving up 6 goals in their last game, but expect a better effort tonight vs. Columbus. On defense, Goligoski looks like the go to guy in Pittsburgh this season and Seabrook is off to a quick start as well. Neidermayer and Liles, both veterans, will turn it around eventually. This is another powerhouse lineup for the Thieves.UNDERDOGS:FORWARDS1-JEAN-PIERRE DUMONT NSH OT2-DANIEL CLEARY DET3-MIKE KNUBLE WSH4-DAVE BOLLAND CHI5-MIKE COMRIE edm6-TRENT HUNTER NYIDEFENCE7-BARRETT JACKMAN STL8-ANTON VOLCHENKOV OTT9-TOM GILBERT EDM10-STEVE MONTADOR BUFGOALIESNASHVILLE The Thieves are close to a 4-1 favorite to win this game. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Updated in previous post: Thieves are killing it tonight! Really breaking out with 8.5 and Jokinen and Kopitar yet to play. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thieves take on Canadian Gothic tonight looking to extend the winning streak after dropping the opener:1. Alexander Semin, WAS. OT. 2. Anze Kopitar, LA. G3. Olli Jokinen, CAL. G A4. Ryan Malone, TB. 5. Kyle Okposo. NYI. A6. Darcy Tucker, COL. 07. Alex Goligoski, PIT. 8. John-Michael Liles, COL. 0 9. Brent Seabrook, CHI. 10. Marc-Edouard Vlasic, SJ, NY RANGERS -1CANADIAN GOTHICSteven Stamkos - TAM OT GRuslan Fedotenko - PIT Paul Stastny - COL 0Matthew Lombardi - PHX Doug Weight - NYI 0Shawn Matthias - FLA Matt Hunwick - BOS 0Kevin Klein - NAS Marc Staal - NYR Zbynek Michalek - PHX NO GOALIES -2.5CHEAP THIEVES 2CANADIAN GOTHIC -1.5 Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 The Thieves have won 4 straight and the team looks to be settling into their familiar spot atop the AHL EAST. Through 5 games, here are the team leaders in AHL points:Player Team GP G A PP1. Alexander Semin WAS 5 5 2 62. Anze Kopitar LA 4 3 5 5.5 sat opening night and had a G and A3. Corey Perry ANA 4 2 3 3.54. Olli Jokinen CAL 4 1 3 2.55. D Scott Neidermayer ANA 4 0 3 1.55. D Alex Goligoski PIT 4 1 1 1.5 future superstar5. D Brent Seabrook CHI 4 1 1 1.58. Ryan Malone TB 1 1 0 18. Bobby Ryan ANA 4 1 0 18. Simon Gagne PHI 4 0 2 111. Kyle Okposo NYI 1 0 1 0.511. D John-Michael Liles COL 4 0 1 0.513. Henrik Sedin VAN 1 0 0 013. D Tom Poti WAS 1 0 0 013. D Greg Zanon MIN 1 0 0 013. T.J. Oshie STL 1 0 0 013. Darcy Tucker COL 1 0 0 013. D Marc-Edouard Vlasic SJ 2 0 0 0GOAL:TEAM GP GA GAA1. NY RANGERS 2 4 22. SAN JOSE 3 11 3.666666667 Link to post Share on other sites
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